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Mint said:
The Rangers traded a young defender, has RFA rights and brings a better corsi rating for a player who is living strictly off of reputation, probably because of his mohawk.

For being such a 'great defensive player', Klein has a -4.4 RelCorsi rating. That's pretty awful for a defensive player who brings no offense whatsoever.

http://www.extraskater.com/players/dashboard?players=134,252

Furthermore, this just proves that Sather is an imbecile and can't manage a team in the NHL anymore. 5 more years committed to this guy? This moves away from the youth movement that he himself so heavily pressed upon a few seasons ago. He has no plan in place.
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I have a feeling you're going to change this corsi....bs tune fairly soon after watching him play.

He is adored around the league and for good reason. MDZ leaves a lot to be desired. This isn't Zubov we traded, coming off a 70 point season.
 
Trxjw said:
Well you just said Klein's RelCorsi says he's a lousy defensive player. I believe McDonagh's RelCorsi for this year is around -1.0, while Stralman's is something absurd like +4.5 or something. Ergo, RelCorsi says Stralman is a better defender.

It's a stat that needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt. Klein is a very solid defensive defender. Corsi gets thrown off significantly when a player is on a team that is typically outshot by the other team. Nashville has had that problem as a defense first team.
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--and meanwhile McDonagh is a +2 averaging 24:44 a night and getting all the toughest assignments and Stralman is a -8 averaging 19:34 a night. I don't know what to think between all these contradicting stats. I like Stralman--he's a gamer who plays hard but he's not nearly as important a player to the Rangers as McDonagh is. Can't fall back on the stats sheets all the time--actually watching the game should count for something too.
 
A question that hasn't really been asked since Del Zotto was always the one involved in trade rumors: if the Rangers could have traded John Moore instead of Del Zotto, would you have done it?

Seems like AV preferred Moore. Moore is obviously the better skater, but personally I think Del Zotto is a better all around player.
 
gump116 said:
A question that hasn't really been asked since Del Zotto was always the one involved in trade rumors: if the Rangers could have traded John Moore instead of Del Zotto, would you have done it?

Seems like AV preferred Moore. Moore is obviously the better skater, but personally I think Del Zotto is a better all around player.
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I don't think so. Moore is signed for next season and will be due a much lower QO after next season. While Del Zotto is due a QO of 2.9M after this season.
 
As I'm reading all of the expert analysis about this trade I am struck by one thing -- how many writers describe MDZ as an "excellent skater".

Really? Are you even watching the games Allen Muir?

I am reminded of the Red Line Report's now classic line on MDZ -- you can time his first two steps with a sundial. He's a lot of things including being one of my personal faves, but an excellent skater he is not.
 
gump116 said:
A question that hasn't really been asked since Del Zotto was always the one involved in trade rumors: if the Rangers could have traded John Moore instead of Del Zotto, would you have done it?

Seems like AV preferred Moore. Moore is obviously the better skater, but personally I think Del Zotto is a better all around player.
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Nope. Cost controlled for longer and may have more upside at this point.

I think Del Zotto is the better player right now, but he was going nowhere fast on this team and is due a raise to his current $2.55M
 
Lousy trade and horrible asset management. This is the Savard trade all over again, except the return is more of a lesser safe bet than what we got in return for Savard.

Now comes the fun part, where Del Zotto continues the development he'd been on for four years before AV got here, turns into a great PMD, and all of the asshats on here insist that "well, nobody could have known that would happen when the trade went down."

Repeat after me, folks--23 year old, puck moving, 35-40 point D don't grow on trees. We had been searching for one for more than a decade. The team FINALLY did the right thing and developed one in MDZ, and they just gave him away for a 4/5 defensive D-man, something we've had DOZENS of over the last few years (including four already on the current roster, with two more in the pipeline). Idiotic. Trade.

Regardless of the recent surge in play, AV deserves to be fired just for his handling of the Del Zotto situation. He played him out of position, threw him under the bus to cover for his (AV's) own coaching deficiencies early in the season, and ripped him to the media while playing and praising a player significantly inferior to MDZ (Moore).

People wonder why Sather traded MDZ now rather than waiting? I'd bet money that that "meeting" between MDZ's reps and Sather was to pass along a message that MDZ needs to be moved. NO player would want to put up with the crap that AV did to MDZ.

Finally, for those of you who are so thrilled that the kid is off the team, think on this:

--He put in the work in the offseason, participating in conditioning camps and such.

--He could have EASILY made himself a distraction to the team by going to the media, but he always said and did the right things.

--For all your whining about his play, he has put up three VERY good seasons offensively, while significantly improving his defensive play.

This is not a move to be celebrated, and anyone who thinks that it is is just as much to blame for the sorry state of the Rangers as Glen Sather is. This team doesn't rebuild. Part of that is on Sather, but part of that is also on idiot fans, who insist that 23 year old defensemen have "peaked." Congrats. You got your way again. Now we get the fun part, where the team continues to be mediocre, and the players we cast off prove themselves to be better than we (ie- you) thought they were.
 
Mint said:
The Rangers traded a young defender, has RFA rights and brings a better corsi rating for a player who is living strictly off of reputation, probably because of his mohawk.

For being such a 'great defensive player', Klein has a -4.4 RelCorsi rating. That's pretty awful for a defensive player who brings no offense whatsoever.

http://www.extraskater.com/players/dashboard?players=134,252

Furthermore, this just proves that Sather is an imbecile and can't manage a team in the NHL anymore. 5 more years committed to this guy? This moves away from the youth movement that he himself so heavily pressed upon a few seasons ago. He has no plan in place.
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According to Behind the Net for last season for Dmen that played 20 games or more last season, these 2 names are ahead of McD for RelCorsi...

Bobby Sanguinetti
Wade Redden

http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_stat...6+7+8+13+14+29+30+32+33+34+45+46+63+67#snip=f
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
Nope. Cost controlled for longer and may have more upside at this point.

I think Del Zotto is the better player right now, but he was going nowhere fast on this team and is due a raise to his current $2.55M
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Moore is the same age as MDZ and hasn't accomplished anything. In MDZ's worst NHL season, Moore has actually looked worse. There is no world in which John Moore has higher upside than Michael Del Zotto. To argue that in light of the facts is just dumb.

Finally, it makes no sense to me when people point to the difference in cost between Moore and Del Zotto. Yes, Del Zotto was more expensive than Moore. Stepan is more expensive than Brian Boyle, too. Maybe we should move Step*? The better players cost more. That's not a reason to move a guy, particularly with the cap going up. Frankly, MDZ having a down season under AV was a GOOD thing, as it would have made it cheaper to re-sign him.

*- No, Bern, that is NOT a serious suggestion. :)
 
smoneil said:
Lousy trade and horrible asset management. This is the Savard trade all over again, except the return is more of a lesser safe bet than what we got in return for Savard.

Now comes the fun part, where Del Zotto continues the development he'd been on for four years before AV got here, turns into a great PMD, and all of the asshats on here insist that "well, nobody could have known that would happen when the trade went down."

Repeat after me, folks--23 year old, puck moving, 35-40 point D don't grow on trees. We had been searching for one for more than a decade. The team FINALLY did the right thing and developed one in MDZ, and they just gave him away for a 4/5 defensive D-man, something we've had DOZENS of over the last few years (including four already on the current roster, with two more in the pipeline). Idiotic. Trade.

Regardless of the recent surge in play, AV deserves to be fired just for his handling of the Del Zotto situation. He played him out of position, threw him under the bus to cover for his (AV's) own coaching deficiencies early in the season, and ripped him to the media while playing and praising a player significantly inferior to MDZ (Moore).

People wonder why Sather traded MDZ now rather than waiting? I'd bet money that that "meeting" between MDZ's reps and Sather was to pass along a message that MDZ needs to be moved. NO player would want to put up with the crap that AV did to MDZ.

Finally, for those of you who are so thrilled that the kid is off the team, think on this:

--He put in the work in the offseason, participating in conditioning camps and such.

--He could have EASILY made himself a distraction to the team by going to the media, but he always said and did the right things.

--For all your whining about his play, he has put up three VERY good seasons offensively, while significantly improving his defensive play.

This is not a move to be celebrated, and anyone who thinks that it is is just as much to blame for the sorry state of the Rangers as Glen Sather is. This team doesn't rebuild. Part of that is on Sather, but part of that is also on idiot fans, who insist that 23 year old defensemen have "peaked." Congrats. You got your way again. Now we get the fun part, where the team continues to be mediocre, and the players we cast off prove themselves to be better than we (ie- you) thought they were.
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Can we stop with this PMD talk about MDZ and how AV mishandled him...last season under a coach who "liked" him he scored 1 less point in 1 less game then the Shut Down Dman McD...and MDZ had 2:30+ PP/TOI/G vs McD's 0:38...he has been exactly what his pre-draft scouting report said he was at the time...he has grown very little in his time in the pro's.
 
smoneil said:
Lousy trade and horrible asset management. This is the Savard trade all over again, except the return is more of a lesser safe bet than what we got in return for Savard.

Now comes the fun part, where Del Zotto continues the development he'd been on for four years before AV got here, turns into a great PMD, and all of the asshats on here insist that "well, nobody could have known that would happen when the trade went down."

Repeat after me, folks--23 year old, puck moving, 35-40 point D don't grow on trees. We had been searching for one for more than a decade. The team FINALLY did the right thing and developed one in MDZ, and they just gave him away for a 4/5 defensive D-man, something we've had DOZENS of over the last few years (including four already on the current roster, with two more in the pipeline). Idiotic. Trade.

Regardless of the recent surge in play, AV deserves to be fired just for his handling of the Del Zotto situation. He played him out of position, threw him under the bus to cover for his (AV's) own coaching deficiencies early in the season, and ripped him to the media while playing and praising a player significantly inferior to MDZ (Moore).

People wonder why Sather traded MDZ now rather than waiting? I'd bet money that that "meeting" between MDZ's reps and Sather was to pass along a message that MDZ needs to be moved. NO player would want to put up with the crap that AV did to MDZ.

Finally, for those of you who are so thrilled that the kid is off the team, think on this:

--He put in the work in the offseason, participating in conditioning camps and such.

--He could have EASILY made himself a distraction to the team by going to the media, but he always said and did the right things.

--For all your whining about his play, he has put up three VERY good seasons offensively, while significantly improving his defensive play.

This is not a move to be celebrated, and anyone who thinks that it is is just as much to blame for the sorry state of the Rangers as Glen Sather is. This team doesn't rebuild. Part of that is on Sather, but part of that is also on idiot fans, who insist that 23 year old defensemen have "peaked." Congrats. You got your way again. Now we get the fun part, where the team continues to be mediocre, and the players we cast off prove themselves to be better than we (ie- you) thought they were.
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Other than his development being stunted for about 2 years, well before AV got here, I agree with you.

Thats also a pretty huge piece of information. Its not like we threw this guy away -- his play has been slipping for quite a while
 
smoneil said:
Lousy trade and horrible asset management. This is the Savard trade all over again, except the return is more of a lesser safe bet than what we got in return for Savard.

Now comes the fun part, where Del Zotto continues the development he'd been on for four years before AV got here, turns into a great PMD, and all of the asshats on here insist that "well, nobody could have known that would happen when the trade went down."

Repeat after me, folks--23 year old, puck moving, 35-40 point D don't grow on trees. We had been searching for one for more than a decade. The team FINALLY did the right thing and developed one in MDZ, and they just gave him away for a 4/5 defensive D-man, something we've had DOZENS of over the last few years (including four already on the current roster, with two more in the pipeline). Idiotic. Trade.

Regardless of the recent surge in play, AV deserves to be fired just for his handling of the Del Zotto situation. He played him out of position, threw him under the bus to cover for his (AV's) own coaching deficiencies early in the season, and ripped him to the media while playing and praising a player significantly inferior to MDZ (Moore).

People wonder why Sather traded MDZ now rather than waiting? I'd bet money that that "meeting" between MDZ's reps and Sather was to pass along a message that MDZ needs to be moved. NO player would want to put up with the crap that AV did to MDZ.

Finally, for those of you who are so thrilled that the kid is off the team, think on this:

--He put in the work in the offseason, participating in conditioning camps and such.

--He could have EASILY made himself a distraction to the team by going to the media, but he always said and did the right things.

--For all your whining about his play, he has put up three VERY good seasons offensively, while significantly improving his defensive play.

This is not a move to be celebrated, and anyone who thinks that it is is just as much to blame for the sorry state of the Rangers as Glen Sather is. This team doesn't rebuild. Part of that is on Sather, but part of that is also on idiot fans, who insist that 23 year old defensemen have "peaked." Congrats. You got your way again. Now we get the fun part, where the team continues to be mediocre, and the players we cast off prove themselves to be better than we (ie- you) thought they were.
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I agree with this. Why on earth wouldnt they play the kid in his natural position before deciding he wasnt going to work out ?

It seems that asset management hurt Del Zotto more than just this trade. They basically forced DZ to play his off side, a place where he said he was uncomfortable and he was never really good. It was also one of the reasons he had a lot of trouble handling the puck at the blueline.

I get the log jam in front of him but that is once again a Glen Sather issue. Add to this McIlrath is in Hartford and is supposed to play the right side. So this means that McI is no where near ready to make the step to the NHL next season. I get that it gives the Rangers some insurance if Girardi or Stralman bolt but holy hell.
 
smoneil said:
Lousy trade and horrible asset management. This is the Savard trade all over again, except the return is more of a lesser safe bet than what we got in return for Savard.

Now comes the fun part, where Del Zotto continues the development he'd been on for four years before AV got here, turns into a great PMD, and all of the asshats on here insist that "well, nobody could have known that would happen when the trade went down."

Repeat after me, folks--23 year old, puck moving, 35-40 point D don't grow on trees. We had been searching for one for more than a decade. The team FINALLY did the right thing and developed one in MDZ, and they just gave him away for a 4/5 defensive D-man, something we've had DOZENS of over the last few years (including four already on the current roster, with two more in the pipeline). Idiotic. Trade.

Regardless of the recent surge in play, AV deserves to be fired just for his handling of the Del Zotto situation. He played him out of position, threw him under the bus to cover for his (AV's) own coaching deficiencies early in the season, and ripped him to the media while playing and praising a player significantly inferior to MDZ (Moore).

People wonder why Sather traded MDZ now rather than waiting? I'd bet money that that "meeting" between MDZ's reps and Sather was to pass along a message that MDZ needs to be moved. NO player would want to put up with the crap that AV did to MDZ.

Finally, for those of you who are so thrilled that the kid is off the team, think on this:

--He put in the work in the offseason, participating in conditioning camps and such.

--He could have EASILY made himself a distraction to the team by going to the media, but he always said and did the right things.

--For all your whining about his play, he has put up three VERY good seasons offensively, while significantly improving his defensive play.

This is not a move to be celebrated, and anyone who thinks that it is is just as much to blame for the sorry state of the Rangers as Glen Sather is. This team doesn't rebuild. Part of that is on Sather, but part of that is also on idiot fans, who insist that 23 year old defensemen have "peaked." Congrats. You got your way again. Now we get the fun part, where the team continues to be mediocre, and the players we cast off prove themselves to be better than we (ie- you) thought they were.
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Michael.... Is that YOU???!
 
smoneil said:
Moore is the same age as MDZ and hasn't accomplished anything. In MDZ's worst NHL season, Moore has actually looked worse. There is no world in which John Moore has higher upside than Michael Del Zotto. To argue that in light of the facts is just dumb.

Finally, it makes no sense to me when people point to the difference in cost between Moore and Del Zotto. Yes, Del Zotto was more expensive than Moore. Stepan is more expensive than Brian Boyle, too. Maybe we should move Step*? The better players cost more. That's not a reason to move a guy, particularly with the cap going up. Frankly, MDZ having a down season under AV was a GOOD thing, as it would have made it cheaper to re-sign him.

*- No, Bern, that is NOT a serious suggestion. :)
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It isn't that Del Zotto was more expensive than Moore. It's that he was about to be more expensive than deserved for a 3rd pair defenseman. I'm not saying DZ is a 3rd pair caliber D. I'm saying that's the role he would've been playing for us. There's just no situation where he would have been more than a 3rd pair guy for us, provided Staal and McDonagh stay healthy.

I get you don't like the trade because you think Del Zotto has more upside or could return to form in Nashville, but honestly... it does not matter what Del Zotto does in Nashville. If Klein is a positive contributor to this team for 18-20 minutes a night, the trade is good for us.
 
bobbop said:
As I'm reading all of the expert analysis about this trade I am struck by one thing -- how many writers describe MDZ as an "excellent skater".

Really? Are you even watching the games Allen Muir?

I am reminded of the Red Line Report's now classic line on MDZ -- you can time his first two steps with a sundial. He's a lot of things including being one of my personal faves, but an excellent skater he is not.
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so true.

i always described him as plodding. he is unquick. :laugh:

my theory is that his reputation as a so called "offensive dman" implies that hes a good skater. he really isnt though.

see thats the rub, its hard to be an "offensive specialist" when you skate so poorly and have a shot like liberace. and hes not "defensive" at all. so hes kinda in no mans land in terms of defensman.

he really had no defined role based on any special skills.

i guess thats why hes in nashville now
 
smoneil said:
Moore is the same age as MDZ and hasn't accomplished anything. In MDZ's worst NHL season, Moore has actually looked worse. There is no world in which John Moore has higher upside than Michael Del Zotto. To argue that in light of the facts is just dumb.

Finally, it makes no sense to me when people point to the difference in cost between Moore and Del Zotto. Yes, Del Zotto was more expensive than Moore. Stepan is more expensive than Brian Boyle, too. Maybe we should move Step*? The better players cost more. That's not a reason to move a guy, particularly with the cap going up. Frankly, MDZ having a down season under AV was a GOOD thing, as it would have made it cheaper to re-sign him.

*- No, Bern, that is NOT a serious suggestion. :)
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The only way I can sign onto your argument is if I've lived in a cable TV-less hole since May of 2012.

I havent.
 
NHRangerfan said:
Can we stop with this PMD talk about MDZ and how AV mishandled him...last season under a coach who "liked" him he scored 1 less point in 1 less game then the Shut Down Dman McD...and MDZ had 2:30+ PP/TOI/G vs McD's 0:38...he has been exactly what his pre-draft scouting report said he was at the time...he has grown very little in his time in the pro's.
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He's gone. You got your way. That doesn't make you any less wrong about him. The facts are scattered throughout the myriad other threads discussing MDZ. Readers Digest version:

His improvement during his time in the NHL is obvious. His defense is light years ahead of where it was, and his offense became more intelligent (he played like a forward his first season--and not in a good way).

Last season, he played like the team's best defenseman through the first 15-20 games. Then, he finished the year with a sports hernia. Ever had one of those? Not fun and definitely not something most people will play through. He did. So excuse me for not lambasting him for outplaying McD for the first third of last season and then barely outscoring him while playing through an injury.

Again--ten plus years we've been looking for something. We find it. We then move it for something we already have plenty of. Idiocy. The only thing more idiotic than this trade is being happy about it.
 
NYRKindms said:
I agree with this. Why on earth wouldnt they play the kid in his natural position before deciding he wasnt going to work out ?

It seems that asset management hurt Del Zotto more than just this trade. They basically forced DZ to play his off side, a place where he said he was uncomfortable and he was never really good. It was also one of the reasons he had a lot of trouble handling the puck at the blueline.

I get the log jam in front of him but that is once again a Glen Sather issue. Add to this McIlrath is in Hartford and is supposed to play the right side. So this means that McI is no where near ready to make the step to the NHL next season. I get that it gives the Rangers some insurance if Girardi or Stralman bolt but holy hell.
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Moore had been playing more on the right to accommodate Del Zotto being a ****show there.
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
Other than his development being stunted for about 2 years, well before AV got here, I agree with you.

Thats also a pretty huge piece of information. Its not like we threw this guy away -- his play has been slipping for quite a while
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I thought his play was fine the last two seasons. The main problem was they rushed him to the NHL way too quickly. His play in the defensive zone was attrocious his rookie season but everyone gave him a free pass because he scored goals. Eventually they had to send him back to Hartford in year two and he really developed a bad reputation amongst fans. His third seasons was fantastic and he continued to play well during the lockout shortened season. Then the new coach comes in and it's back to square one.
 
smoneil said:
He's gone. You got your way. That doesn't make you any less wrong about him. The facts are scattered throughout the myriad other threads discussing MDZ. Readers Digest version:

His improvement during his time in the NHL is obvious. His defense is light years ahead of where it was, and his offense became more intelligent (he played like a forward his first season--and not in a good way).

Last season, he played like the team's best defenseman through the first 15-20 games. Then, he finished the year with a sports hernia. Ever had one of those? Not fun and definitely not something most people will play through. He did. So excuse me for not lambasting him for outplaying McD for the first third of last season and then barely outscoring him while playing through an injury.

Again--ten plus years we've been looking for something. We find it. We then move it for something we already have plenty of. Idiocy. The only thing more idiotic than this trade is being happy about it.
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Here is the thing in order to truly be a PMD, you have to have good skating ability and he doesn't have that...can he make a home run pass every once in a while? Absolutely...is he as bad defensively as he was nope, but that wasn't a very high bar to start with
 
smoneil said:
Lousy trade and horrible asset management. This is the Savard trade all over again, except the return is more of a lesser safe bet than what we got in return for Savard.

Now comes the fun part, where Del Zotto continues the development he'd been on for four years before AV got here, turns into a great PMD, and all of the asshats on here insist that "well, nobody could have known that would happen when the trade went down."

Repeat after me, folks--23 year old, puck moving, 35-40 point D don't grow on trees. We had been searching for one for more than a decade. The team FINALLY did the right thing and developed one in MDZ, and they just gave him away for a 4/5 defensive D-man, something we've had DOZENS of over the last few years (including four already on the current roster, with two more in the pipeline). Idiotic. Trade.

Regardless of the recent surge in play, AV deserves to be fired just for his handling of the Del Zotto situation. He played him out of position, threw him under the bus to cover for his (AV's) own coaching deficiencies early in the season, and ripped him to the media while playing and praising a player significantly inferior to MDZ (Moore).

People wonder why Sather traded MDZ now rather than waiting? I'd bet money that that "meeting" between MDZ's reps and Sather was to pass along a message that MDZ needs to be moved. NO player would want to put up with the crap that AV did to MDZ.

Finally, for those of you who are so thrilled that the kid is off the team, think on this:

--He put in the work in the offseason, participating in conditioning camps and such.

--He could have EASILY made himself a distraction to the team by going to the media, but he always said and did the right things.

--For all your whining about his play, he has put up three VERY good seasons offensively, while significantly improving his defensive play.

This is not a move to be celebrated, and anyone who thinks that it is is just as much to blame for the sorry state of the Rangers as Glen Sather is. This team doesn't rebuild. Part of that is on Sather, but part of that is also on idiot fans, who insist that 23 year old defensemen have "peaked." Congrats. You got your way again. Now we get the fun part, where the team continues to be mediocre, and the players we cast off prove themselves to be better than we (ie- you) thought they were.
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Talk about hyperbole. You'd think we'd just traded McDonagh for Dan Boyle or something. I liked MDZ, but this is a ridiculous overreaction. Firing AV over Del Zotto? Yeah, ok. Del Zotto wishes he could accomplish as a player what AV has accomplished as a coach.
 
The Senators held several discussions with the Rangers about D Michael Del Zotto but a trade was never realistic because the asking price was D Marc Methot and another prospect in Binghamton. Del Zotto was dealt to Nashville Tuesday in exchange for D Kevin Klein. The need for a puck-moving blueliner changed when rookie D Cody Ceci came in from Binghamton and helped stabilize the back end
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http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/01/22...ot-for-del-zotto--no-punishment-for-grabovski

Was Mark Stone the prospect?

The Rangers weren't trading DZ for Greening,Condra and Gryba.
 
Mint said:
The Rangers traded a young defender, has RFA rights and brings a better corsi rating for a player who is living strictly off of reputation, probably because of his mohawk.

For being such a 'great defensive player', Klein has a -4.4 RelCorsi rating. That's pretty awful for a defensive player who brings no offense whatsoever.

http://www.extraskater.com/players/dashboard?players=134,252

Furthermore, this just proves that Sather is an imbecile and can't manage a team in the NHL anymore. 5 more years committed to this guy? This moves away from the youth movement that he himself so heavily pressed upon a few seasons ago. He has no plan in place.
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Corsi? Who friggin' cares? MDZ had to go and now he's gone and guess what? We received a solid defender on a good contract. Sather has done some stupid things over the years. This isn't one of them.
 
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