Friedman: NYR giving Kravtsov permission to seek trade

[EpicDing]

No he isn’t. That is not what happened here. He is a victim of Drury not wanting to waive Gauthier or Hajek and the Rangers taking advantage of the fact that he has options while they wait for a deal to materialize with inferior players.

Gauthier and Hajek aren't even in the lineup, so what, you'd rather he be in the NHL but a scratch?

If Kakko and Laf weren't Rangers, Kravtsov likely would be in one of their spots.

 

[Nate070]

Our GM is terrible. He sends down Kravtsov who's a promising RW (we're not exactly stacked on the RW...) due to Drury is afraid to lose Hajek who's an AHL player at this point.

The first time we demoted him, he went to Russia.

Now we trade our best RW and then we send him to the AHL because we're afraid someone will pick 2 AHLers (Hajek & Gauthier) if we waive them.

High risk, no reward type of move.

Vitali is full of himself but at the same time it's kind of disrespectful to get demoted by 2 AHLers after all of this.

So you are saying he´s better than Kakko?

 

[KingsCourt]

I thought he was untouchable...

He's so untouchable that Rags don't want other teams having any body contact with him. .. Lol

 

[Savant]

Gauthier and Hajek aren't even in the lineup, so what, you'd rather he be in the NHL but a scratch?

If Kakko and Laf weren't Rangers, Kravtsov likely would be in one of their spots.

Yes. I do not think this would be an issue if Kravtsov was in New York instead of Hartford. Kravtsov didn’t get sent down because of his talent. He got sent down because he has options.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

I think it was fairly obvious that the player was refusing to accept the decision made by the team to send him to the minors, and that the relationship which may have already been tenuous, had broke down enough to the point that the team gave permission to find a more suitable situation, while also putting it out there that they were doing so, so that everyone would know that the player was being difficult

The Rangers have exactly the opposite motivation if their goal was to extract value by trading him. Why diminish his value in that way?

You're applying previous experience with Kravstov to come to your conclusion, which is fine. All I'm saying is that wasn't communicated in the reporting we had at the time and it was just as likely the Rangers had expectations for Kravstov he didn't meet and were ready to move him on anyway.

 

[Nate070]

He could make at least 5 times his AHL salary in the KHL. What would you do if you were in his situation?

Maybe look a little bit further down the road?

 

[Lays]

In all seriousness these kids are way too entitled. Not cracking an opening night roster as a 21 year old is not a big deal at all. To pout and have a tantrum and demand a trade over that is hilarious. Probably a guy you don’t want in your Locker room anyway.

I don’t know, while I sort of think that, I look at this from his perspective

-Comes to NYR 2 seasons ago and had the best camp out of any player along with a solid pre-season, but NYR wants him to start in the AHL, he think that the KHL was better for his development and leaves NA. I think he should’ve stayed, but eventually he comes back and plays in the AHL
-In the qualifiers, Rangers tell Kravtsov he has a chance of getting a game. The guy misses his own sisters wedding for a chance at one NHL game and by all reports he looked great in camp as well but Rangers opt to play Steven Fogarty over him when there was an injury because Fogarty played a safe game. Rangers get swept

-He starts the year in the KHL again leading his team in scoring and then comes over at the end of the season, barely gets ice time but he had flashes and it was clear his defensive game was miles better than it once was

-Has a solid pre-season this year, but gets injured and only plays two games. Gallant was adamant that he wanted to try Kravtsov in the top 6 but never got that. Kravtsov played 3rd line while they moved Kreider to RW even though they should’ve been swapped. Kravtsov gets upset that he gets sent down over Julien Gauthier.

Both sides are partly to blame here, at this point Kravtsov absolutely deserves to be in the NHL but NYR don’t have any spots for him

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

So you are saying he´s better than Kakko?

No but he's better than Gauthier and I like Gauthier.

 

[EpicDing]

Yes. I do not think this would be an issue if Kravtsov was in New York instead of Hartford. Kravtsov didn’t get sent down because of his talent. He got sent down because he has options.

So he's dealing with what every young, bubble, waiver eligible deals with. Just dealing with it poorly. Chytil didn't request a trade 2 years ago when he was sent down, neither did Lindgren in similar situations.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Lol it's a f***ing prospect that didn't make a team and is too entitled to play in the ahl. What is there to be upset about? You're acting like his dog was run over.

Okay, I’ll be sure to dunk on you when the Leafs trade one of their big 3. No complaining and you have to be happy with the dunk.

 

[TootooTrain]

So he's dealing with what every young, bubble, waiver eligible deals with. Just dealing with it poorly. Chytil didn't request a trade 2 years ago when he was sent down, neither did Lindgren in similar situations.

He looked like he was finally rounding out his game during my limited preseason viewings of him.
I get it, it sucks to be sent down (temporarily), but why.....would you ask for a trade. It's not like his top9 wing position is locked up long term.
Bit of a headscratcher.

 

[Yog S'loth]

And this is why you don't [REDACTED]

 

[Flames Fanatic]

I go by my draft board. I had Kravtsov at 10, and Wahlstrom 11. They both went one pick later than I had them. I would’ve taken Dobson. He was BPA on my board. That doesn’t mean Kravtsov was a reach in that range.

Your personal draft board doesn't define a reach compared to what everyone else will compare to.

 

[EpicDing]

He looked like he was finally rounding out his game during my limited preseason viewings of him.
I get it, it sucks to be sent down (temporarily), but why.....would you ask for a trade. It's not like his top9 wing position is locked up long term.

That's what I'm saying. People saying this is bad asset management aren't seeing the whole picture. This is good asset management so you don't lose other assets for nothing on waivers.

 

[pld459666]

The Rangers really squandered two top ten picks in 2017, 2018. Not that I think Kravtsov will be a bust.

Well, we salvaged 2017 as Will Cuylle will be a better player than Lias, but I get the point.

Drury has to get this right in wjat ever they get back for VK

 

[Evgeny Oliker]

I was never a big fan of this prospect or where NYR took him. I’m not surprised he hasn’t panned out…

 

[Spilot23]

Send him to Washington and you can have Hathaway for some additional grit.

We're outbidding their grit with MacDermid.

 

[Konk]

I go by my draft board. I had Kravtsov at 10, and Wahlstrom 11. They both went one pick later than I had them. I would’ve taken Dobson. He was BPA on my board. That doesn’t mean Kravtsov was a reach in that range.

Your draft board is meaningless.

To everyone else living in reality, he was a reach.

 

[TLEH]

Just from stat watching it doesn't appear he lit it up in the AHL either.

 

[Savant]

So he's dealing with what every young, bubble, waiver eligible deals with. Just dealing with it poorly. Chytil didn't request a trade 2 years ago when he was sent down, neither did Lindgren in similar situations.

There is a very big reason Kravtsov is not in this same group.

 

[EpicDing]

Your draft board is meaningless.

To everyone else living in reality, he was a reach.

MacKenzie had him at 12, 3 picks higher isn't a reach really.

 

[Devils090]

Couldn’t happen to a more deserving team

 

[pld459666]

Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider, Lafreniere, Kakko and Strome is the top 6.

Goodrow and Chytil make up 2/3rds of the 3rd line.

Blais was better than Kravtsov by far this preseason.

VK is not a 4th liner.

The numbers didn't add up for him.

While I get him being mad, and I understand him reading the writings on the wall and asking for a trade.

He needed to go to Hartford, play well to facilitate a trade.

He and his reps did not handle this well.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Whatever. This is such a f***ing headache and there's clearly a disconnect between the prospects and management. This isn't the first time this has happened with Kravtsov or an NYR prospect.

Dylan Strome or Barrett Hayton. Whatever. And take Hajek while you're at it.

 

[EpicDing]

There is a very big reason Kravtsov is not in this same group.

Yeah, because instead of working on his game in the A in hopes he gets called back up, he throws a fit and demands a trade. Real big difference compared to 2 players who are solid NHLers now.