Confirmed with Link: NYR Fire John Davidson and Jeff Gorton

[Anthony5967]

Absolutely, I agree. The Ottawa trade was great, the Boston trade was great, and Spooner for Strome was great as well.

I'm of the belief that Gorton was a fine GM. Somewhere in the better range of the decent NHL GMs. But a lot of Rangers fans thought he was one of the best GMs in the league. They're entitled to that opinion, I just don't agree. As I said, a lot of it was luck (though that's part of the game) and players that just kind of fell into his lap that would've happened under any GM. Any GM would've taken Kakko after winning 2OA, any GM would taken Lafreniere after winning 1OA, any GM would've given up 2 2nds for Fox once he basically demanded to come to NY, and any GM would've given Panarin a blank check once he made it clear he wanted to play for the Rangers.

Shesterkin was a great pick, but was made before Gorton was GM (though he was still in management at the time), Lundkvist was good, Miller so far seems decent. But Lias Andersson was a flub, as were a couple other not-as-notable picks.

So again, I don't think Gorton was bad, and I certainly was not advocating for him to be fired prior to this. However, I also don't think this is the apocalyptic end of the Rangers future that some seem to be thinking it is.

It isn't. It's just that some fans on here are like 30 something and some younger than 25 and know Dolan's reputation. Let me guess, the message this summer from JD and JG would've been more patience as they sign Jack Johnson, Brendan Smith to extensions and return Rooney and PDG and try this again? Shattenkirk buyout, Lundqvist buyout, DeAngelo buyout, Panarin's money to nearly die because they built a gym hockey team, brutal PR all year around their locker room and other things, etc. These people act like they just fired a Pres and GM that have brought this team multiple cups. Get a grip.

 

[Tob]

Jeff Gorton hitched his wagon to David Quinn, a developmental coach with no repertoire for physical scrum-like hockey that eventually brought about the exodus of DeAngelo and Lemieux. If those two asshats are still in Rangers jerseys right now, there is 0% chance this happens. Dolan is pissed because we got rid of DeAngelo and Lemieux and after double shutouts to the Islanders and Dolan's $80M man being thrown around like a sac of cat litter, he finally said he's had enough and posted that press release attacking the league and was going to fire Gorton no matter what. JD got in the crossfire.

Tony DeAngelo will play the next game against the Bruins.

 

[Kravtsov420]

Darkest day of the franchise since I’ve been watching for sure. (2008/2009)

 

[FireGerardGallant]

This really feels like the Knicks man Im disgusted. Im begging the powers at hand not to trade Laf and Kak

 

[Allan92]

That was pretty dumb.

This board would have sold their grandmothers to have Girardi bought out at the time. FA is a risk like everything else. Gorton did well getting Shatty for only 4 years and yeah, it didn't work out

But it wasn't dumb

 

[ghouston6]

Well since The New York Knicks are now winning, Dolan needed something to keep his soap opera going.

 

[Fitzy]

This really feels like the Knicks man Im disgusted. Im begging the powers at hand not to trade Laf and Kak

I don't see Drury trading Laf and Kakko but certainly guys like Lundkvist could be in play if the pressure is to add veteran talent now.

 

[Levitate]

My phone just died, but to a person, everyone reaction I've received more or less said, "This is nuts and we're shaking our heads."

Literally. Every. Single. One.

Reporters. Scouts. Behind the scenes peeps. Former players. Internal. External.

That should tell you everything you need to know at this point.

I mean just f***ing embarrassing. A billionaire's childish tantrum playing out in front of us all. HOw the f*** do I even stay a fan of this team

 

[CLW]

Messier is such a degenerate. He doesn't belong anywhere near this team.

I fear the degenerates won this round. So much weird shit exploded when Wilson went apeshit.

 

[NYRangers3061]

But obviously, Dolan is not happy with Gorton's decisions - reasonable as they seem by your own admission. So what would he be happy with?

THAT's the concern.

Well, I said a couple things in my post on the main boards.

1. I think Dolan is very, very impatient and likes instant gratification. Most Rangers and Knicks fans know this. He wants to sell tickets, he wants to sell jerseys, he wants to sell ads, and he wants to be the talk of the town (in a positive way).

2. I think this has more to do with the last 2 days than anything else. Dolan doesn't pay attention to hockey. But I think he probably saw his $80 million asset and superstar player getting slammed to the ice by a cheapshot artist in the mainstream news (this story has permeated outside of hockey media) and probably even heard about it from some of his rich buddies. Dolan probably got pissed and wanted the organization to react in a more radical manner than Gorton and JD wanted to.

I'm truly not buying the "Gorton and JD were fired because the team was not meeting expectations" narrative that's being thrown around right now. There were THREE GAMES LEFT in the regular season. It's unprecedented to do this with that little time left unless there's something else at play.

But that's just my opinion.

 

[Number 9]

John Davidson is beloved by the fans. Beloved— and he’s now just sent to the trash heap. I am floored and literally angry. Dolan is an incapable owner. Incapable. This just proves it. On what planet are decisions like this even justifiable— let alone good for the organization?!? It’s like an alternate universe where every single Ranger fans needs to just be punished over and over again. In 80 plus years this trash heap of an organization has won 2 cups. TWO!!! Pure garbage.

Rant over.

Dolan has a tendency to trash fan favorites ex: Oakley

 

[Shadowtron]

Isn't that why you fire the coach first, though, Shadow?

I mean, I get that opinion. I can't fault it. It's not outright wrong. But I really do question some of the overall logic of the move.

Yeah, I feel ya on that. I question it myself. My guess is that Quinn is gone shortly after these final 3 games. But who knows. I have a feeling the team will push back towards the more...Torts'ian style of play lol.

 

[Daves a mess]

Darkest day of the franchise since I’ve been watching for sure. (2008/2009)

Not much different a week of bs since 74-75 for me.

 

[Edge]

Every report to this point was that the team was more happy than not with how the team and kids were coming along, and what they'd do in normal year.

I am willing to bet dollars to doughnuts that this is whim of Dolan.

 

[Number 9]

Well since The New York Knicks are now winning, Dolan needed something to keep his soap opera going.

We had 20 years dolan free

 

[tomobson]

I think the best outcome is that Gorton and/or JD did not agree with the letter Dolan sent out and that's why they got fired. If they got fired because of performance then we're in for some ugly trades this off-season. To be fair, I do feel Gorton could have done a lot better this past off-season but I definitely feel like he would have had more leash than this so I'm really hoping it's because of the letter. Don't want to see this rebuild ruined.

 

[Dr. Ogrodnick]

No one should be surprised. We’ve been a soap opera for two years now. Lot of embarrassing things going on. Lack of leadership. Joke of a coach messing with our top prospects.

no one should be surprised.

And yet the only one still here is the coach.

 

[Svenhart2008]

Been a fan since 92. I’ll wait for some more details but jeez this may end it for me. Talk about pulling the rug out from our future.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I never want to see anyone lose their job. Hopefully these two, and their families, will be okay.

That said, somebody crafted that embarrassing statement.

You are a ridiculous broken record in the whining about the statement. Like seriously absolutely insufferable.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

John Davidson is beloved by the fans. Beloved— and he’s now just sent to the trash heap. I am floored and literally angry. Dolan is an incapable owner. Incapable. This just proves it. On what planet are decisions like this even justifiable— let alone good for the organization?!? It’s like an alternate universe where every single Ranger fans needs to just be punished over and over again. In 80 plus years this trash heap of an organization has won 2 cups. TWO!!! Pure garbage.

Rant over.

Most fans who buy actual tickets probably don't even know who JD is. Sad but true. I guarantee if you did a poll at the next (normal attendance) game it would be less than 50%.

 

[Kocur Dill]

W. T. actual. F?

Late to the party.

Dolan gonna Dolan. We were headed in the right direction. Rebuilds take time. Gorts and JD seemed to do what previous NYR GMs never do and that is target specific players, instead of throw assets at Johnny-come-lately, whats available throw aways.

We made some very daft trades to aquire the the most high end prospects this team has seen since Smith and Rockstrom found Wright, Amonte, Zubov, Nordstrom, etc...

Very disappointed in this decision.

Gorts and JD had their faults, but having walked away from the Knicks looooooong ago, I have no faith in Dolan not going the yearly turn over and dump kids route like the Orange n Blue do.

 

[NYSPORTS]

Well, I said a couple things in my post on the main boards.

1. I think Dolan is very, very impatient and likes instant gratification. Most Rangers and Knicks fans know this. He wants to sell tickets, he wants to sell jerseys, he wants to sell ads, and he wants to be the talk of the town (in a positive way).
.

couldn’t read anymore. The Knicks have stunk forever, with Covid there have been no tickets to sell, the internet are ads now and every team besides the Knicks has always been the talk of the town. I’m sure #2 was no better (edit) - the rest was better. Thankfully

 

[Daves a mess]

I mean just f***ing embarrassing. A billionaire's childish tantrum playing out in front of us all. HOw the f*** do I even stay a fan of this team

Again. You should meet this guy in person. Bartenders cringe when he walks into bars. I've seen this in person. He sweats out alcohol as he puts it down.
Nice enough guy though.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

and he wants to be the talk of the town

Oh he’s the talk of the town alright. The talk of the league as everyone laughs at him for blowing up his team on a whim

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Jeff Gorton hitched his wagon to David Quinn, a developmental coach with no repertoire for physical scrum-like hockey that eventually brought about the exodus of DeAngelo and Lemieux. If those two asshats are still in Rangers jerseys right now, there is 0% chance this happens. Dolan is pissed because we got rid of DeAngelo and Lemieux and after double shutouts to the Islanders and Dolan's $80M man being thrown around like a sac of cat litter, he finally said he's had enough and posted that press release attacking the league and was going to fire Gorton no matter what. JD got in the crossfire.

Tony DeAngelo will play the next game against the Bruins.

I won't go into the physical scrum stuff but WHY THEN IS HE STILL HERE???!!! Sorry for yelling but I can't believe how this guy would survive a nuclear holocaust.