Lays
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Proposal: NYR/EDM
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Something around Nuge is the only conversation the Rangers should be having with the Oil.
And that certainly wouldn't be happening with Georgiev as the main piece coming back....
Ok, so Nuge just took a discount to stay, and the Oilers are in win now mode....what kind of offer would you make that would entice them?
Win now? The Oilers are less ready to win than the Rangers are. The deal would have to be about two or three years from now. So, having said that, we could part with Lundquist, Cuylle, Geo, a 2022 2nd and Strome so during this year's playoffs, the Oil still has a shot.
And you think they would trade Nuge for that? I highly doubt they would.
I mean you think they trading 7 more years of Nuge at a very reasonable cap hit for an expiring Strome? And you didn't even include a 1st?
And ya, as long as McD and Drai are there, they are "win now".
Strome is in the deal so you do not have a big hole at 3C this playoff; if you make it which is iffy. The deal is based on upgrading the goalie position with a young player and two blue chip prospects both just about NHL ready. If you think the Oil can only make deals that guarantee to make them better right now, this doesn't work although Strome, Geo and Lunqvist step right into the lineup.
Strome's contract expires this season....Nuge has 7 more years at 5.1. And while Geo "may" be an upgrade, that's no guarantee. And i think you are being generous with the term blue chip as well here....
I don't see the Oilers moving RNH. With his contract, the team and player both want him to retire in Edmonton.
KevinRedkey
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Georgiev is not a definite upgrade to Koskinen, and is not worth the cost.
If the Oilers want a cheap goalie - send the Sens a conditional pick for Forsberg, that gets progressively better the more games he plays in the playoffs. He's not a definite upgrade either, but he'll come a lot cheaper, and is a better gamble IMO.
If the Oilers want a cheap goalie - send the Sens a conditional pick for Forsberg, that gets progressively better the more games he plays in the playoffs. He's not a definite upgrade either, but he'll come a lot cheaper, and is a better gamble IMO.
I don't have a lot of faith in Georgiev either, but I'm pretty down on the Oiler's goaltending situation right now. They deserved a win against Tampa.
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The problem for many of your posts or counters is you love taking the bluechips and top prospects off the table for the NYR, but then ask for the equivalent from opposing team for lesser parts.
You can't pull Schneider/Robertson types from discussions and then say you want Holloway+ from the Oilers. Not that the Oilers would even necessarily be interested in either of those prospects at the price of Holloway, but for sake of parity and even rationale discussion, it just makes zero sense from an Oilers perspective
Which of the two players is not a blue chip? Blue chip doesn't mean only the top 10 prospects. Not sure why you keep comparing Nuge and Strome. Strome is a fill in only for this year. The Oil have two top 6 centers so Nuge is a luxury the Oil probably can't afford. This deal fills holes for both teams both this year and beyond. I actually think the Rangers are giving up too much, but that's what has to happen to get that elusive 2C that they need.
I am an upgrade to Koskinen and I don't see that well. When Geo has played consistently his numbers are fantastic. He's not a great backup but he is a very good starter. The Oil need that desperately.
The just re-signed him for 8 years, so i think they can afford him....and he plays center and wing, kills penalties and is on the 1st PP unit....so he's not a luxury. So you think they would prefer having Strome for 4 months over the guy that took a discount for the next 7 years?
He's never been a starter....he's played a small string of games when the starter was injured....that's a backup.
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IOh for sure. They NEED to do something. If the only answer is Georgiev, then roll the dice. I just think there are better bets thats all.
If Holland doesn't bring in someone I will be furious. lol
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I honestly don't think Geo is worth anything... like zero. He's batting 0.898 on one of the best teams in the league. The rangers are 3rd in the league in GAA, which obviously tells you that Shesterkin is legit and Geo is barely an NHL quality backup (if that).
Koskinen's 0.899 is coming behind a team with well known defensive deficiencies.
And @bernmeister... what on earth are you talking about with "Geo has a real ability to stonewall powerhouse teams",... the position is about consistency. I mean even Kosko has a 0.936@Calgary, 0.941@Pittsburgh, 0.947@Vegas, etc, etc... it means nothing if you can't do it consistently.
I think they will prefer the other players in the deal and the pick soon enough.
You lost me at "he's batting". His numbers when he has played consistently are excellent. He has had a few stinkers when filling in for Igor.
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