Proposal: NYR - Dallas

[Mersss]

This is awful. You aren't getting a 20 yr old 2nd overall for a rental.

As for your no cap space thing you think the Rangers are going to keep Nemeth over kappo?

Come on this is bad. Lock it up

Not like any GM would take on Nemeth whitout a 1st rd pick coming back in the deal

 

[One Winged Angel]

Check again the cap after Fox`s extension kicks in and the year after you try resign Lafreniere, Miller and Chytil.
Pavelski is a top-notch 1st liner. Having seen the prices on 2-3rd liners theese last years, I suspect a 1st liner, good netprescence and playoff-contributor like him @50% fetches A LOT more.

Don’t throw stones in glass houses, because you have no idea of what you’re talking about and didn’t do enough research.

 

[WojtekWolski86]

After Fox`s extension, Kakko RFA and Strome UFA this summer, Rangers have Miller, Lafreniere and Chytil RFA:s next year. Doubt NYR want to trade thoose either and I dont expect Rangers getting a 100M cap from Bettman or that all their RFA:s are taking 2M extensions..a

Please tell me how Rangers will manage their cap in the future?

And if they have to do trades, then now would be the time. Now they have players on cheap contracts and could add 1-2 really good contributors at deadline to contend, but to get you have to give. Doubt teams give 1st liners and Top2 D:s for your "We offer a 2nd rounder + unknown prospect"

Repeating the same justification for your asinine trade that doesn't have any equity value wise with the reason "because of cap concern's" is the most absurd post and replies on this board. We will trade Trouba and a 1st somewhere before we trade Kakko for Pavelski.

 

[GAGLine]

And you have less if you sign Kakko. Are you gonna trade Miler, Lafreniere or Chytil next year?

None of them need a new contract until 2023. We'll worry about it then.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

After Fox`s extension, Kakko RFA and Strome UFA this summer, Rangers have Miller, Lafreniere and Chytil RFA:s next year. Doubt NYR want to trade thoose either and I dont expect Rangers getting a 100M cap from Bettman or that all their RFA:s are taking 2M extensions..a

Please tell me how Rangers will manage their cap in the future?

And if they have to do trades, then now would be the time. Now they have players on cheap contracts and could add 1-2 really good contributors at deadline to contend, but to get you have to give. Doubt teams give 1st liners and Top2 D:s for your "We offer a 2nd rounder + unknown prospect"

Rather have 7+ years of Kakko then 1 shot with Pavs. You must think Kakko and Laf will get huge deals. They've underperformed and will get medium range bridge deals. Pavs will go to a true contender looking to get over the hump.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

Not like any GM would take on Nemeth whitout a 1st rd pick coming back in the deal

Of course no one would. Luckily he has a nice low buyout.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Its been reported that Rangers are trying to add impact players for playoff. Preferrable RW and C. A netprescence and distributor. On Finnish news there was speculations that Kakko would be the piece Rangers are offering. I just think Dallas would be the perfect tradingpartner.

Dallas get:

Kaapo Kakko 0.925M RFA 2022

NYR get:

Joe Pavelski 7M UFA 2022 - retained 50% by Dallas

Dallas get a cost-controlled project who is decent 2-way, with upside, to add to Robertson-Hintz. NYR get one of the best netprescences in the game. Pavelski is a PPG player still and with him, Rangers can roll 2 very good lines and try contend.

You do that, you go to the box, you know. Two minutes, by yourself, you know and you feel shame, you know.

 

[common12]

Easy - for the future. He has potential. Surely would do the same trade for Lafreniere and add more, but I doubt Rags would part with him.

Exactly and that's why the Rangers are going to keep him. He has a ton of trade value and 1 year of Pavelski isn't it.

I noticed you ignored everything else in that post.

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

Can you tell me what the cap number is going to be 2 years from now? Plus how much do you think Kappo is going to sign for. He has 14 points in 37 games i believe. Whats that worth.

Probably 83.5. It's at the start of the 24-25 season where it's supposed to jump.

 

[Mikachu93]

For the love of god someone lock this

 

[common12]

Probably 83.5. It's at the start of the 24-25 season where it's supposed to jump.

Its probably going to be higher than that. Thats 2 seasons away and only a 2 mill increase. Next year should be full revenues so hopefully it will be much higher but we shall see.

 

[common12]

Not like any GM would take on Nemeth whitout a 1st rd pick coming back in the deal

Yea sure, Andrew Ladd says hi. His cap hit is 2.5 mill. He would be bought out way before that or waived and hidden in the AHL. His contract is so low somebody will take him for much less than a 1st round pick.

 

[Mersss]

Yea sure, Andrew Ladd says hi. His cap hit is 2.5 mill. He would be bought out way before that or waived and hidden in the AHL. His contract is so low somebody will take him for much less than a 1st round pick.

Other GMs aren't there to help the NYR.

Not going to take a 2.5M$ AHLer just for the sake of it. Ladd was traded for much more than a mere lower rd pick

 

[Alluckks]

Check again the cap after Fox`s extension kicks in and the year after you try resign Lafreniere, Miller and Chytil.
Pavelski is a top-notch 1st liner. Having seen the prices on 2-3rd liners theese last years, I suspect a 1st liner, good netprescence and playoff-contributor like him @50% fetches A LOT more.

For someone acting like you studied the Rangers cap in the future you sure as hell don't know anything about our cap this year if you are peddling 50% off Pavelski this year as having any value at all to the Rangers lol

 

[common12]

Other GMs aren't there to help the NYR.

Not going to take a 2.5M$ AHLer just for the sake of it. Ladd was traded for much more than a mere lower rd pick

Never said it was going to be for nothing but a 1st round is ridiculous. Andrew Ladd carried 2 years and 5.5 mill each year and didn't get a first. Marc Staal was 1 year and a 5.7 cap hit for a 2nd. To think a player making 2.5 mill is somehow worth more than those two is like comparing apples to hand grenades. Not even close

 

[bernmeister]

What are you smoking
Since when is prospect selected 2nd overall the cost of a rental. Rangers have cap space this year we don’t need to pay for retention

this^

 

[Dr Pepper]

This is all moot anyways because Dallas will remain close enough to that second WC spot, Jim Nill will flat out refuse to budge on any Pavelski trade talks.

He likes where the team is at, y'know.

 

[bernmeister]

Check again the cap after Fox`s extension kicks in and the year after you try resign Lafreniere, Miller and Chytil.
Pavelski is a top-notch 1st liner. Having seen the prices on 2-3rd liners theese last years, I suspect a 1st liner, good netprescence and playoff-contributor like him @50% fetches A LOT more.

we have boxed ourselves in due to lots of players w/trade protection
howev, if they listen to bern, and max the youth, it will suppress vs the cap

specifically we are holding out til Trouba waives early or worst case has full pop for next 2 seasons. Then, if not before, most of his cap is moved in trade and we replace w/Schneider. Nils is cost controlled 3RD

The answer to yr question, what is the hard choice NY makes as early as next season where it has to scratch every nickel, the answer is Lindgren and his 3 x 3 is attractive and moved for picks, no cap hit coming back. We have to sign 1 or 2 less guys like McKegg, and we may have to 'promote' Reaves to the front office for a year, and then see if he wants to 'unretire' once Trouba is off the rolls.
That will only provide scratch to downpay on bridge deals, but that is enuf. Assuming no effin foolishness of adding vets or the insanity of extending strome.

Tell me, what is the correct price for a player of Pavelski`s caliber, at 50%, from a team that wants to contend? Do you expect a player of his pedigree to go for a pick or pick+prospect? After the prices beeing handed out for say Foligno etc. at deadlines, I`d bet Pavelski will fetch a ton. And even Kakko was a 2OA - he hasnt played like such.

The ? is moot b'c it is a luxury NY can not afford.

After Fox`s extension, Kakko RFA and Strome UFA this summer, Rangers have Miller, Lafreniere and Chytil RFA:s next year. Doubt NYR want to trade thoose either and I dont expect Rangers getting a 100M cap from Bettman or that all their RFA:s are taking 2M extensions..a

Please tell me how Rangers will manage their cap in the future?

And if they have to do trades, then now would be the time. Now they have players on cheap contracts and could add 1-2 really good contributors at deadline to contend, but to get you have to give. Doubt teams give 1st liners and Top2 D:s for your "We offer a 2nd rounder + unknown prospect"

See the above.

Rather have 7+ years of Kakko then 1 shot with Pavs. You must think Kakko and Laf will get huge deals. They've underperformed and will get medium range bridge deals. Pavs will go to a true contender looking to get over the hump.

concur

 

[slg1963]

Its for a playoff-run. Are you just dumb, or do you think Kakko>Pavelski atm?

So Rangers give up Kakko for a playoff run? lol Rangers will not be contenders for another 2 years and I am a Rangers fan.

 

[Satan]

Epic Trade Proposal

 

[Bluto]

Reminds me of forsberg for erat but worse.

 

[account deactivated]

Nah. Kakko is a bust.

 

[QJL]

I wouldn’t trade Kakko for 5 Pavelski rentals. I wouldn’t trade Kakko for 5 Pavelskis for this year and next year either. Trading Kakko for anything that doesn’t provide a long term sustainable impact is atrocious for the Rangers.

 

[BfantZ]

This would be a sweet deal for Dallas but I don’t think the rangers are close enough to winning the cup that there gonna give up kakko .

 

[pld459666]

Holy shit this is bad