Confirmed with Link: [NYR/CAR] Joey Keane for Julien Gauthier

[aufheben]

Twitter has so many mixed reactions about this trade.

Jess Rubenstein (Prospect park) hates it. Reminiscing the Graves trade to Colorado.
Corey Pronman likes it for the Rangers. Says Gauthier is NYR's #3 ranked prospect.


Kudos to whoever the poster here was that kept mentioning Gauthier In the Trade Rumor thread here. I remember him/her posting Gauthier being the prospect he/she was hoping for in a Kreider deal.

Ive seen posters labeling Gauthier as a big tough power forward here and on Twitter. Is he a true power forward? I guess we will soon see. He's big. He can skate. He's a physical specimen. Steve K mentioned he was really good along the boards. He's on pace for his best season at AHL level. Big goal scorers that can skate are hard to find. Big goal scorers that can skate and play a true physical brand of hockey are Hybrids. Not sure if Gauthier is truly a physical player in the small sample size ive seen. He drops the mitts. Not often, but he does. Not exactly a fighter, nor does he seem to do very well when he does shed them. Seems like the Canes have some depth at RW. Teravainen is almost PPG for the Canes. Justin Williams is a cult hero! Martin Necas a yr younger produced better PPG but scores less goals then Gautier. He's 3rd on that Canes depth chart. Brock McGinn rounded out the 4th line. He's got just shy of 300 games for the Canes now. I guess there was a logjam there even though Williams is a Dinosaur!

Im a Joey Keane fan from day 1. I was probably a little biased here as I was pulling for him. Keane always seemed to be described as a puck moving defenseman and get some credit for his creativity. Keane however is also a Physical player with a mean streak. For that reason i always thought he was going to make it. I wish him well and i was probably one of the few here that thought of Keane as a player who might be better then a B prospect.

Grading the deal, i think its pretty damn even! I hope Gauthier develops further and contributes at the NHL level.

From the Pronman article:

Commentary on CAR-NYR trading Gauthier for Keane: Based on my evaluations of the players exchanged, I like Gauthier a little more as a player. Carolina was going to have to make a decision on him soon, though, because if he hit waivers next fall, my understanding from discussions with NHL scouts is that he was the type of player who would have been claimed. Based on those circumstances, getting a defenseman like Keane, who is on the first year of an entry-level deal, preserves some value in the system for Carolina; while the Rangers, who don’t have as deep an NHL roster, take a big swing on a highly talented player.

 

[B17 Apricots]

I just hope they put him in a position to succeed. It should be some priority to push these kids development. You have Fast and Di Giuseppe in the top 9, let's see this kid up in the line up. What I don't wanna see is this kid stapled to McKegg and groomed as a bottom line player because he's a big dude

 

[Lion Hound]

I am now convinced this is a big win.

I don't share the same sentiments as him, however I am surprised at how many different opinions there are of what seems to me to be a very even swap of prospects.

 

[Levitate]

Gauthier sounds like what the Rangers hoped Gropp would be

 

[JT Kreider]

Is Brian Boyle a decent comparison or is that a lazy big man comparison?

Not even close. Gauthier has much better offensive instincts, is a much better skater and can shoot the puck. I don't see Gauthier being anywhere as good defensively as Boyler.

Gauthier is like an extremely poor mans Laine

 

[Tob]

Just ate an entire family size loaf of garlic bread with sour cream while reading this thread. I think this is a calculated risk, deal or no deal do you want to switch the briefcase type of a scenario where fancy maths says you should switch because you had a 1/26 chance of picking the right briefcase at the start and by process of elimination, you've slightly increased the odds of the briefcase being on the pedestal being the $1M briefcase compared to the one you picked. If it doesn't work out with Gauthier, you feel cheated for trading away Keane but I think given what our needs are and the luxury we have with RHD, it's a calculated calculated risk that even Howie Mandel would grab with both hands.

 

[nyr2k2]

Wow I really love this deal. Gauthier has lots of talent. I think Keane was a helium watch prospect. Great deal.

 

[Cassano]

Wow I really love this deal. Gauthier has lots of talent. I think Keane was a helium watch prospect. Great deal.

Agreed.

This is what the Canes brass felt about Gauthier:

 

[EdJovanovski]

Of course they include him scoring on Shesterkin

 

[Thirty One]

Of course they include him scoring on Shesterkin

If he can score on Shesterkin, what's he going to do against the mere mortals other teams have in net?

 

[offdacrossbar]

I am now convinced this is a big win.

agreed. he and i disagree on most everything.

 

[EdJovanovski]

 

[Thirty One]

Does he jump pools?

 

[offdacrossbar]

gauthier has always been more scorer than creator. he isnt a big assist guy. doesnt handle the puck well at all imo.

does all his damage down low with size and reach and some sweet hands. oddly though, he has great wheels to beat defenders too. he has top end wheels.

his only real weakness from what i saw a few times and from what ive read is his ability to create and do things at pace with the puck on his stick.

his shot is solid and his release is nhl quick. his mind just needs to catch up.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Does he jump pools?

He jumps lakes

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Hes yoked but I really hope that he doesnt follow a bodybuilding routine.

 

[Tob]

Hes yoked but I really hope that he doesnt follow a bodybuilding routine.

The timing of this makes more sense now. We have a week to get Kreids to pass on his training regime before the deadline.

 

[HisIceness]

Canes/Checkers fan here. "Goat" as he is/was known on our board kind of plays like Jeff Skinner. In other words, he has a nose for the net and as the picture above shows, dude is a big powerful guy. I think you guys will like him. He's a legend forever w/ the Checkers.

 

[Levitate]

gauthier has always been more scorer than creator. he isnt a big assist guy. doesnt handle the puck well at all imo.

does all his damage down low with size and reach and some sweet hands. oddly though, he has great wheels to beat defenders too. he has top end wheels.

his only real weakness from what i saw a few times and from what ive read is his ability to create and do things at pace with the puck on his stick.

his shot is solid and his release is nhl quick. his mind just needs to catch up.

Again, basically sounds like what the Rangers had hoped Gropp would be

Also man he's got some wimp ass shoulders for a guy probably strong enough to break me in half

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

You finally have a real Chad

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

You finally have a real Chad

He beat up chad

 

[Tob]

You finally have a real Chad

 

[Levitate]

God what a harbinger of things to come

 

[EdJovanovski]

Hes yoked but I really hope that he doesnt follow a bodybuilding routine.

In that video they talk about his father & grandfather who were professional bodybuilders, they say his training regimen is much different from theirs and focuses on functional training. He also eats really clean, white fish & chicken and not much red meat he says. Seems he's a total fitness freak, so I guess he'll be sorta a Kreider replacement in that regard

 

[Tob]

In that video they talk about his father & grandfather who were professional bodybuilders, they say his training regimen is much different from theirs and focuses on functional training. He also eats really clean, white fish & chicken and not much red meat he says. Seems he's a total fitness freak, so I guess he'll be sorta a Kreider replacement in that regard

We waited 7 years to finally get Kreider to play at his full potential and now we're in for another 7 years.