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Confirmed with Link: [NYR/CAR] Joey Keane for Julien Gauthier

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Not sure how to feel about this one. I liked Keane quite a bit and hoped he'd get a look while Tony was out. Not too sure about how his game would translate to the NHL, though.

Gauthier is the type of bigger forward we could use, to be sure, but hopefully this is a calculated risk with Trouba, Fox, DeAngelo on the roster and Lundkvist and Skinner in the system for the RD.
 
Tim Erixon for Rick Nash and Joey Keane for Gauthier will go down as the great D for power forward trades of the 2010s and 2020s decades.
 
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I think kean is the better prospect but how many offensive dmen does a team need?
We need talented grit so Gorts went out and got it
I personally would have rather traded tda for a stud F and brought kean up and eventually lundvist
But if they view tda as part of the core then this trade makes perfect sense
 
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RagFinMet said:
I think kean is the better prospect but how many offensive dmen does a team need?
We need talented grit so Gorts went out and got it
I personally would have rather traded tda for a stud F and brought kean up and eventually lundvist
But if they view tda as part of the core then this trade makes perfect sense
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Like...why? DeAngelo is gonna put up 60+ points. He's something like top 5 in defenseman scoring. Why are people trying to get rid of him? I can't believe people are in a rush to trade a defenseman who scores 60+ points for a forward who maybe scores 60+ points. Cmon.

It's just nuts to me that people are hoping to spin DeAngelo into a top six forward. He's the best offensive defenseman this team has had since Leetch. I love Fox and think he COULD be better but there's no reason to rush into trading DeAngelo right now, that's just bad management.
 
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Levitate said:
Like...why? DeAngelo is gonna put up 60+ points. He's something like top 5 in defenseman scoring. Why are people trying to get rid of him? I can't believe people are in a rush to trade a defenseman who scores 60+ points for a forward who maybe scores 60+ points. Cmon.

It's just nuts to me that people are hoping to spin DeAngelo into a top six forward. He's the best offensive defenseman this team has had since Leetch. I love Fox and think he COULD be better but there's no reason to rush into trading DeAngelo right now, that's just bad management.
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EdJovanovski said:

In that video they talk about his father & grandfather who were professional bodybuilders, they say his training regimen is much different from theirs and focuses on functional training. He also eats really clean, white fish & chicken and not much red meat he says. Seems he's a total fitness freak, so I guess he'll be sorta a Kreider replacement in that regard
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Glad to hear it.
 
Tob said:
My family had a garage sale when I was a youngster. The sale got so frenzied, TWO real estate agents drove by and made a stop to give us their business cards because they had looked up our address to see if we were selling and when they saw that we weren't and assumed this was a moving sale, they just had to get their foot in the door. We sold every couch we didn't really love and just about everything else that was a stop gap piece of furniture. We had no couch and 1 dining table left by the end of the day since we were planning on buying new contemporary high quality furniture that would be keepers this time around. We ended up buying 2 couches over the next 6 months from Costco and never figured out why we started lifting all the furniture out into the yard when we only wanted to sell a few lamps and coffee tables.
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What is the relevance of this?
 
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Some of you guys are wild. If this trade happened in October everyone would be screaming from the roof tops how good of a trade this was. Keane has played 40 or so AHL games. Gauthier has 40+ goals in around 80 games! Hes big, he can skate and hes a right handed shot.

The Rangets dealt from a position of strength and still can do that. The only bad thing is hes not waiver exempt next season and he has to be protected in the expansion draft.

This is the type of trades the Rangers need to make. A big shooter who can skate and is just starting to put it all together. Dealing from a position of strength.

Awesome trade.
 
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I think even if Gauthier doesn't pan out the conversation is more about who else the Rangers could have gotten for Keane rather than the hole in their D lineup because they traded Keane. i don't think he'll ever be as good as the Rangers current NHL RD and Lundkvist likely has more upside as well
 
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Levitate said:
I think even if Gauthier doesn't pan out the conversation is more about who else the Rangers could have gotten for Keane rather than the hole in their D lineup because they traded Keane. i don't think he'll ever be as good as the Rangers current NHL RD and Lundkvist likely has more upside as well
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And if he doesn’t have much of a shot of playing in the NHL for the Rangers, how was his value ever going to get any higher than it is right now?
 
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I'm skeptical.

I do like the fact we sold high on Keane. His value is at an all time high right now and with the depth in our organization, he wasn't going to have a future here on the NHL roster. It was a good time to trade him in one of these lateral moves for a player at another position.

Gauthier comes with red flags. Sure, he has the pedigree, the size, the shot, the natural scoring ability, etc. But teams don't trade 6'4 guys who can score unless they really don't believe in them. 5 NHL games at the age of 22 is a red flag. If he was any good, wouldn't he have been playing in Carolina by now? They don't exactly score a lot. Sure, guys develop late all the time. I'm a big fan of this team, I want him to succeed as much as anyone. Maybe he just needs a change of scenery and some coaches that will believe in him and give him an opportunity. Maybe he just wasn't a Brind'amour guy. I'm just going to temper my expectations a bit though before I say "Wow, what a trade by Gorton." These lateral prospects deals have not worked out too well in our favor in the past. Graves for Bigras immediately comes to mind. It wouldn't completely shock me in three years if Keane is a serviceable, bottom pair NHL defenseman and Gauthier isn't in the league.

It's worth taking the chance though. These are the kind of players you gamble on. This guy has scored at every level. Can he improve the other parts of his game enough to be a top 9 forward in the NHL, or is he a tweener and an AHL all-star?
 
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I don't agree that Keane would've been blocked and ultimately think he ends up as the more valuable player in the long term but I don't mind this trade all at.

There's enough depth on D in the system where this shouldn't hurt too much and he's closer to helping the team sooner rather than later.

Hope he puts it together.

Size, SPEED and he even PKs.

Bring it on...
 
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