Confirmed with Link: NYR acquire Adam McQuaid from Bruins for Kampfer, and 4th round pick

[Tawnos]

I'm not holding my breath that McQuaid is a third-pairing d-man on October 4th.

Skjei-McQuaid. No doubt in my mind right now.

I don't think you're thinking rationally here.

 

[NYRFAN218]

I misread it thinking we were getting the 4th. Very disappointed when I found out that wasn’t the case.

 

[silverfish]

I don't think you're thinking rationally here.

I'm thinking we have a new coach who's going to lean very heavily on veterans, regardless of whether or not it's the "right thing" to do.

I've been wrong before, I'll be wrong again.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Just threw a 4th rounder in the trash for no reason.

Not if you get a third back at TDL.

 

[mjhfb]

Chiming in from Boston, you won't find anybody with a bad word to say about McQuaid. He is the ultimate teammate, ferocious fighter. Solid bottom pairing, stay at home D. His game is what it is but he can still play. He will get hurt a few times each year, may play about 60 games because of that. And he will only be there for a year at most obviously. This was a cap move, $2.75m for a guy who wasn't going to be in their top 6. But the guy is genuinely loved by the fans. People are sad to see him go. His teammates will love him. And sadder that Kampfer is coming back, who sucked with the Bruins a few years back.

Definitely both a Bruins teammate and fan favorite. Huge heart, humble, off the charts tough, and Stanley Cup champion. He will be missed.

 

[eco's bones]

I like it a lot. McQuaid is an okay bottom pairing guy on a good team and he is seriously tough. He is a problem for any tough guy in the league. He can knock people out. He also protects his teammates--something we didn't altogether get from McLeod last year. In fact McLeod is no longer a lock to make the Rangers with this. Rangers just upped their toughness quotient by about 200%....and IMO he's not a bad player though he is a stay at home D and not a two way D.

 

[Tawnos]

I'm thinking we have a new coach who's going to lean very heavily on veterans, regardless of whether or not it's the "right thing" to do.

I've been wrong before, I'll be wrong again.

That’s exactly what I mean. You have no idea what the new coach is going to do, and reacting as if you do is irrational. But our GM just said two days ago that he will make moves to open up room for kids that are ready, so my feeling is that the directive from the top is not to give vets preferential treatment. We will see, but I don’t get reacting to it now.

 

[Levitate]

What I care about are the types of players the FO continues to target. Part of me believes that even when this rebuild is over, whenever that is, they'll continue targeting this type of player.

I think it depends on what we have when the rebuild is "over".

I think Gorton wants a tough team, but he's not going to sacrifice skill in the important positions for it. You'll have your higher skill guys, Chytil, Kravtsov, and your gritty players with skill, Andersson, Howden, and I bet he's going to be on someone like Kreider to get back to playing a meaner game, but on D it's still pretty weak with Lindgren being the only guy with any real sandpaper to his game ( I guess ADA tries but I don't think he's big enough).

So, I think they're still trying to create that mix on the team but it wouldn't surprise me to see them fill out the 7D/4th line spots with these type of guys if they can't bring them up internally. Which is annoying but in the scheme of things much further down the list of things I'm concerned about when it comes to this team rebuilding.

 

[silverfish]

That’s exactly what I mean. You have no idea what the new coach is going to do. But our GM just said two days ago that he will make moves to open up room for kids that are ready, so my feeling is that the directive from the top is not to give vets preferential treatment. We will see, but I don’t get reacting to it now.

Once again, I'm reacting to the type of player our front office likes to covet. I disagree with the employment of these player types on my team.

That's all.

 

[eco's bones]

Relax. McQuaid won't be on the team past this season.

DeAngelo is 21.
Pionk is 23.
Skjei is 24.
Hajek whom doesn't look too far away is 20.

DeAngelo and Pionk are the same age.

 

[Tawnos]

Once again, I'm reacting to the type of player our front office likes to covet. I disagree with the employment of these player types on my team.

That's all.

If that’s all you were reacting to, you wouldn’t say things like you expect a Skjei-McQuaid pairing.

 

[EpicDing]

I'm thinking we have a new coach who's going to lean very heavily on veterans, regardless of whether or not it's the "right thing" to do.

I've been wrong before, I'll be wrong again.

I really doubt that. I think everyone from Dolan on down knows that Quinn was brought in to be a developmental coach and not necessarily to win. If Quinn is leaning on vets, he simply isn't doing his job.

 

[Off Sides]

Pionk being waiver exempt had to come into play here.

Unless they are not worried about waiving ADA.

 

[Levitate]

That’s exactly what I mean. You have no idea what the new coach is going to do, and reacting as if you do is irrational. But our GM just said two days ago that he will make moves to open up room for kids that are ready, so my feeling is that the directive from the top is not to give vets preferential treatment. We will see, but I don’t get reacting to it now.

I have no problem believing that Quinn may lean back on vets at times if the younger players go through a tough spell, even though he's supposed to be all about developing these players. That's sometimes what you have to do...developing young players doesn't mean force feeding them minutes regardless of their play.

 

[Mac n Gs]

I like it a lot. McQuaid is an okay bottom pairing guy on a good team and he is seriously tough. He is a problem for any tough guy in the league. He can knock people out. He also protects his teammates--something we didn't altogether get from McLeod last year. In fact McLeod is no longer a lock to make the Rangers with this. Rangers just upped their toughness quotient by about 200%....and IMO he's not a bad player though he is a stay at home D and not a two way D.

This is one reason I don’t dislike this move. If it means that chickenshit McLeod is gone, then I’ll he happy. Seriously, f*** Cody McLeod.

I don’t think I’m as optimistic as others that we’ll return a 4th rounder for him at the deadline, but cheers to y’all for believing so.

 

[silverfish]

If that’s all you were reacting to, you wouldn’t say things like you expect a Skjei-McQuaid pairing.

Except they go hand in hand, IMO.

But I'm going to duck out of this thread now.

 

[Off Sides]

I don't think this means no McLeod.

If they want toughness they will want both

 

[Edge]

Basically we traded a 30 year old journeyman 7th defenseman and a 4th round pick, for a 32 year old 6th defenseman.

It's a depth trade for insurance.

Barring a complete meltdown, there's a chance he brings back anywhere from a 3rd-5th round pick at the deadline.

So I don't really see the huge waste of assets.

 

[Krams]

He’s a HUGE uprade over Kampfer. Kampfer will never be a full time NHLer and Adam is 100x more physical and tough. Perfect bottom pair defensman.

Very happy with this minor trade.

I disagree that he's much of an upgrade at all outside of physicality and strongly disagree it's a "huge" upgrade. Kampfer has always been a 6/7 swingman throughout his career and McQuaid is nothing more than a 6th defenseman at this point. He adds nothing offensively and struggles to get the puck out of his own zone.

I don't like giving up the 4th when we should be focused on stockpiling youth, but it's moot if we're able to flip him for a 3rd come the trade deadline.

 

[Tawnos]

Except they go hand in hand, IMO.

But I'm going to duck out of this thread now.

They don’t go hand-in-hand. That’s what I’m trying to tell you is irrational. No one trades for a 3rd pairing D in order to play him on the 1st pairing. And this is the same front office that targeted Shattenkirk, Pionk, and ADA. Why isn’t that a factor for you when you think about these things?

But sure, someone calls you out and you flee. Well done.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Pionk being waiver exempt had to come into play here.

Unless they are not worried about waiving ADA.

I wouldn't be shocked if they traded him for a similar prospect on another team

Although i'd rather just keep him at this point

 

[NYRFANMANI]

First I was " AND PICKS" ?!? You mother ...

Kampfer and a 4th for McQuaid ... cool. He was a bad man with the Bruins but I guess he's a shell of his former self.

 

[silverfish]

They don’t go hand-in-hand. That’s what I’m trying to tell you is irrational. No one trades for a 3rd pairing D in order to play him on the 1st pairing. And this is the same front office that targeted Shattenkirk, Pionk, and ADA. Why isn’t that a factor for you when you think about these things?

But sure, someone calls you out and you flee. Well done.

This conversation is a waste of both of our times. I'm not fleeing. I'm moving on to more important things. Just one more thing we'll have to disagree on. Sorry, boo.

 

[Badko]

Listening to bruins fans, it sounds like we traded for a cheap contract version of Girardi.

Wrong!!! McQuaid would not have stood and stared as Girardi did when Gaborik had to fight Carcillo.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I disagree that he's much of an upgrade at all outside of physicality and strongly disagree it's a "huge" upgrade. Kampfer has always been a 6/7 swingman throughout his career and McQuaid is nothing more than a 6th defenseman at this point. He adds nothing offensively and struggles to get the puck out of his own zone.

I don't like giving up the 4th when we should be focused on stockpiling youth, but it's moot if we're able to flip him for a 3rd come the trade deadline.

But McQuaid brings a ton of leadership and experience that can help the kids. I'm not concerned about his offense or if he even scores a single goal. I'll easily give up a crummy 4th round for that expirence he can bring the kids. Plus i'm fairly confident we get that 3rd or 4th round for him at the deadline so it will be win/win.