Confirmed with Link: NYR acquire Adam McQuaid from Bruins for Kampfer, and 4th round pick

[Waivers]

I'll take McQuaid at 2m per for his final year instead of Girardi/Staal for $5m for several years.

Besides, McQuaid may be the best defensive defender we have at this point. He's better than Shattenkirk in his own end.

 

[n8]

Reminds me of the Steve Rucchin trade. Late-summer move. Transitioning team. 4th round pick and a likely AHL player. Player on his last legs at a position that lacks experience on the roster.

Steve Rucchin was a 2nd/3rd line center who put up an ok amount of points for us... Don't see the comparison other than the timing.

 

[SA16]

I'll take McQuaid at 2m per for his final year instead of Girardi/Staal for $5m for several years.

Besides, McQuaid may be the best defensive defender we have at this point. He's better than Shattenkirk in his own end.

No he isn't...

McQuaid is bad at everything and he isn't even all that cheap. Could have signed a better player for less money on a 1 year deal in FA. In fact we already did in Claesson.

 

[Machinehead]

Traded two draft picks for character and toffnuss.

Sounds about Gorton.

 

[Made Dan]

I don't hate it. Just interesting timing for a move like this with camp just around the corner and Claesson signed. I thought there were sufficient internal options. Not that it was much, but I don't like the premise of giving up two picks while doing Boston a financial favor, especially considering McQ is a negligible upgrade over Kampfer, if that.

I could understand why management would want to bring in a veteran who's good in the room. If acquiring a guy who's kinda tough and can kinda skate a regular shift means we see less of McLeod, I'm all in. Hopefully he's not a lineup regular, but in a year which is in all likelihood a last cause, can't get too upset. More miffed about giving up picks than anything.

 

[NYR Viper]

Traded two draft picks for character and toffnuss.

Sounds about Gorton.

Is this really all of the analysis you can make?

 

[Machinehead]

Is this really all of the analysis you can make?

McQuaid adds absolutely nothing else.

 

[NYR Viper]

McQuaid adds absolutely nothing else.

And you don't think they can recoup picks at the deadline for this same player?

 

[Joey Bones]

Initial reaction was pretty much "why?". But after thinking about it, it's good that they have someone that can play and step up for the kids when necessary. I think he's a marginal upgrade over Kampfer, but giving up two picks (even though they are later on in the draft) might hurt for a rebuilding team. I think he gets flipped again as the season goes on because if they hold onto him, it makes very little sense.

Does anyone know the condition on the 7th rounder?

 

[haohmaru]

Cap space.

Meh - they had some cap space before the deal and didn't gain a whole hell of a lot making this deal if they plan on using Kampfer (2.75M - 650K = 2.1M). Not sure what the benefit is of having 5M instead of 3M cap space in September - prorated they'd have had a decent trade deadline cap. I like the deal for us but them? Not really. Cie la vie.

 

[Machinehead]

And you don't think they can recoup picks at the deadline for this same player?

I doubt McQuaid will generate any interest. He's terrible. Even if you're not into fancy stats, nobody regards him as a good player.

This trade was made because the Rangers aren't happy unless they have some thug. That was true under Sather and it's still true under the guy he trained. It has nothing to do with some grand assets scheme.

And they're going to play this guy over ADA and burn an asset there.

This is the most Rangers thing ever.

 

[NYR Viper]

Meh - they had some cap space before the deal and didn't gain a whole hell of a lot making this deal if they plan on using Kampfer (2.75M - 650K = 2.1M). Not sure what the benefit is of having 5M instead of 3M cap space in September - prorated they'd have had a decent trade deadline cap. I like the deal for us but them? Not really. Cie la vie.

I think the Bruins management was both looking to bank cap space but also to give McQuaid an opportunity to play more in a contract year

 

[NYR Viper]

I doubt McQuaid will generate any interest. He's terrible. Even if you're not into fancy stats, nobody regards him as a good player.

This trade was made because the Rangers aren't happy unless they have some thug. That was true under Sather and it's still true under the guy he trained. It has nothing to do with some grand assets scheme.

And they're going to play this guy over ADA and burn an asset there.

This is the most Rangers thing ever.

I highly disagree that he will not have any suitors at the deadline. People said similar things about Holden who was a valuable stop-gap for all of the crap people said about him

 

[Machinehead]

I highly disagree that he will not have any suitors at the deadline. People said similar things about Holden who was a valuable stop-gap for all of the crap people said about him

Holden is Bobby Orr compared to this guy.

 

[Tawnos]

Meh - they had some cap space before the deal and didn't gain a whole hell of a lot making this deal if they plan on using Kampfer (2.75M - 650K = 2.1M). Not sure what the benefit is of having 5M instead of 3M cap space in September - prorated they'd have had a decent trade deadline cap. I like the deal for us but them? Not really. Cie la vie.

The difference between 3 and 5 gets pretty large at the deadline. Also, you never know what comes up as far as trade opportunities, so why not move a guy you aren't going to play now instead of waiting until you have to?

 

[Rongomania]

I doubt McQuaid will generate any interest. He's terrible. Even if you're not into fancy stats, nobody regards him as a good player.

This trade was made because the Rangers aren't happy unless they have some thug. That was true under Sather and it's still true under the guy he trained. It has nothing to do with some grand assets scheme.

And they're going to play this guy over ADA and burn an asset there.

This is the most Rangers thing ever.

I think Takedown was right when he said Pionk (waiver exempt) spends time in the A and ADA is given every chance to succeed.

Aka: we don’t need to worry about mcquaid getting any type of AV sweetheart treatment.

 

[Machinehead]

I think Takedown was right when he said Pionk (waiver exempt) spends time in the A and ADA is given every chance to succeed.

Aka: we don’t need to worry about mcquaid getting any type of AV sweetheart treatment.

He's a #vet and plays #DaRightWay.

AV isn't the only one who does that. Most coaches do.

 

[Avery16]

Reminds me of the Steve Rucchin trade. Late-summer move. Transitioning team. 4th round pick and a likely AHL player. Player on his last legs at a position that lacks experience on the roster.

Rucchin did quite well for us.

 

[haohmaru]

The difference between 3 and 5 gets pretty large at the deadline. Also, you never know what comes up as far as trade opportunities, so why not move a guy you aren't going to play now instead of waiting until you have to?

3M prorated at the deadline has to be ~7-8M or so. I don't know how much more flexibility/cap space you need than that at the deadline.

I guess the Rangers aren't sold on their youth just yet - though Kampfer would've been here, too, as a spare part. Hopefully this will translate to McCleod not seeing the light of day.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

You have to play him to move him at the deadline for more than a 4th. Which means, in a rebuilding year, this guy is going to eat minutes that should be going to Pionk or ADA.

And we're all, for some reason, okay with this?

Not to even mention the fact that this FO continually slaps us in the face with the types of players that they covet, who are essentially **** players, and we all jump up and down with excitement.

I know I'm the crazy one, but I didn't think it was this bad.

It's also possible Ada wont deserve those minutes or someone else wont. Injuries happen. Or they could have a rotation that works fine and allows the young guys to still get plenty of minutes. This organization has consistently trained up its youth, integrated that youth where appropriate and they have brought up draft picks with success relentlessly. Where is this idea coming from that implies they have and will continue to mishandle these guys?

I didn't feel like I was reading a bunch of overexcited posts. I'd love to know what "we all jump up and down with excitement" refers to. The universally laughed at mcleod? The hated Mcilrath pick? The muted reaction to boogard and brashear who barely cost anything? I wish it didn't but I see posts like this that fabricate things in order to make it look like you're better or smarter than most posters and they aggravate me.

Then I get nasty pointing out what bs that is. Then I get stuck in a stupid back and forth. So i guess f*** me right

 

[Irishguy42]

If McQuaid gets traded at the deadline and returns the same or more as Holden, @Machinehead should record himself eating a shoe and post the video here.

 

[haohmaru]

McQuaid adds absolutely nothing else.

I'm not sure he needs to. We're, presumably, going to have a lot of really young guys out there that probably are going to get taken advantage of and McQuaid is a perfect one year or less bridge type player that'll get us through this season in this type of role.

I'll lose the 4th & 7th and take the deterrent so Chytil, Andersson, etc... don't get abused. Absolutely worth it to me and I'd rather have this guy in the lineup than the less of a deterrent McCleod.

We're not doing anything this year. This deal hurts no one and we can get that pick back at the deadline if we really want it. Nothing lost here.

 

[JayMan82]

I guess to some people on our board, a RHD that's physical and went to the finals twice (winning one) grow on trees and can't possibly see us getting more than a 4th + cond. 7th for him.

I would bank on a 3rd + for McQuaid at the deadline or him being packaged with one of our forwards for something larger.

 

[Krams]

Upon reflecting further, my least favorite part of this move is that it likely blocks one or both of DeAngelo/Pionk from getting consistent minutes this year. The last spot on the right side is now going to be split between Smith, Claesson, Pionk, and DeAngelo.

Hoping those two will be given a legitimate chance to earn a permanent role on the back end.

 

[True Blue]

I think he's a marginal upgrade over Kampfer, but giving up two picks (even though they are later on in the draft) might hurt for a rebuilding team. I think he gets flipped again as the season goes on because if they hold onto him, it makes very little sense.

Marginal? Kampfer on his best day is a 7th defenseman. McQuaid is a legit third pairing defenseman who can clear the crease and actually play defense and PK. Maybe he gets flipped or maybe plays well enough for management to decide that they want his leadership around to help raise the kids. But to say that he is only marginal better than an at-best waiver material player is disingenuous.