Speculation: Nylander XXI - all Nylander discussion here (MOD WARNING IN OP)

[NoName]

Yes, the Leafs rolling over and handing Nylander an $8m+ deal is technically worse, but it doesn't strike me as credible. There was never a possibility that that was going to happen, and if there was it certainly won't now. It's like thinking about the worst possible outcome of a nuclear exchange and pointing out that an asteroid impact would technically be worse.

Sitting out, on the other hand, is a possibility just because it's the default. My point is only that even that shouldn't really be a concern if both sides are acting in their own best interest. It's not a veiled argument for Nylander having the upper hand or some such nonsense.

If a bridge deal like the $5.5 million x 3 years talked about was on the table and Nylander was willing to sign, then yeah, Dubas and the Leafs would be foolish to reject it. The issue is, thus far it has looked like Nylander is unwilling to do so. If I were to bet, my guess is that a bridge deal is still the most likely option when Nylander looks at missing the whole season, but I honestly don’t see it as a sure thing. Him sitting out and tge Leafs just shopping him through the rest of the season looks more and more likely by the hour.


Anyway in a days time we will know for sure one way or another.

 

[member 147413]

I hope he resigns with the Leafs and gets a gentlemen's guarantee that he won't be traded that way the bad defense stays bad.

One of the best GAA in the league. But keep pushing that narrative, it’s cute.

 

[Leaf Fans]

If a bridge deal like the $5.5 million x 3 years talked about was on the table and Nylander was willing to sign, then yeah, Dubas and the Leafs would be foolish to reject it. The issue is, thus far it has looked like Nylander is unwilling to do so. If I were to bet, my guess is that a bridge deal is still the most likely option when Nylander looks at missing the whole season, but I honestly don’t see it as a sure thing. Him sitting out and tge Leafs just shopping him through the rest of the season looks more and more likely by the hour.


Anyway in a days time we will know for sure one way or another.

"If a bridge deal like the $5.5 million x 3 years talked about was on the table and Nylander was willing to sign.."If it were on the table Dubas would have offered it.

 

[NoName]

"If a bridge deal like the $5.5 million x 3 years talked about was on the table and Nylander was willing to sign.."If it were on the table Dubas would have offered it.

Yeah wrong choice of words there on my part. More accurately, I imagine Dubas has already offered such a deal and Nylander has either turned it down flat or counter-offered something unreasonable for the team.

 

[ole ole]

One of the best GAA in the league. But keep pushing that narrative, it’s cute.

Shots on net? A goalie playing way over his level doesn't mean the D is good.You would think you would know that.

 

[shortfuze]

I hope he resigns with the Leafs and gets a gentlemen's guarantee that he won't be traded that way the bad defense stays bad.

You mean that bad defence that has given up the 4th least amount of goals?

 

[ole ole]

You mean that bad defence that has given up the 4th least amount of goals?

The Post above.

Leafs the 6th worst team for Shots against. Ya great defense.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Yeah wrong choice of words there on my part. More accurately, I imagine Dubas has already offered such a deal and Nylander has either turned it down flat or counter-offered something unreasonable for the team.

It's possible. Unfortunately, neither side has ever talked to the media.

 

[34]

You mean that bad defence that has given up the 4th least amount of goals?

I know right.

 

[member 147413]

Shots on net? A goalie playing way over his level doesn't mean the D is good.You would think you would know that.

Leafs don’t allow as many high danger shots.

Why is Andersen playing way over his level?

Sparks has pretty good stats too and let me tell you, it’s not cause he’s playing well.

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Anyway in a days time we will know for sure one way or another.

No, I think the Nylander scenario is like herpes. It never goes away.

 

[shortfuze]

The Post above.

Sure. 4th this year. 12th last year. But you believe what you want.

 

[ole ole]

I know right.

Leafs the 6th worst team for Shots against. Ya great defense.

 

[ole ole]

Sure. 4th this year. 12th last year. But you believe what you want.

Don't have to believe. here's the fact.Leafs the 6th worst team for Shots against. Ya great defense.

 

[ole ole]

Leafs don’t allow as many high danger shots.

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Prove that.

 

[NoName]

It's possible. Unfortunately, neither side has ever talked to the media.

Well if Nyalnder signaled he is willing to sign a reasonable AAV bridge deal than Dubas would indeed be making a mistake to not offer said deal. Obviously a long-term deal at a market value or below market value rate is best, but this would be the next best option.

 

[Steve]

I hope he resigns with the Leafs and gets a gentlemen's guarantee that he won't be traded that way the bad defense stays bad.

As a Leaf fan I will be thrilled if the leafs D can stay this bad

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Leafs don’t allow as many high danger shots.

Why is Andersen playing way over his level?

Sparks has pretty good stats too and let me tell you, it’s not cause he’s playing well.

I thought is was funny that Leaf haters said that Andersen was the reason did so well last year. McIllerney had a better save % and GAA then Andersen. So by that logic the Leafs had ultra hot goalie 82 games last year. And now the it seems the goalies have been ultra hot for another 26 games this season.

I agree with you. Shots against aren't so important...its high quality shots and multiple shots off rebounds that result in goals.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Prove that.

Have no idea how to read it but you guys can figure it out.






Team Season Totals - Natural Stat Trick

 

[shortfuze]

Don't have to believe. here's the fact.Leafs the 6th worst team for Shots against. Ya great defense.

.932% save percentage. So what does that say when they are 6th worst for shots against but 4th best with the least amount of goals. May not be the most pretty games but they are doing something right. Any other stats you want to bring up about how bad their defence is?

 

[Leaf Fans]

Well if Nyalnder singaled he is willing to sign reasonable AAV bridge deal than Dubas would indeed be making a mistake to not offer said deal. Obviously a long-term deal at a market value or below market value rate is best, but this would be the next best option.

Sure, a bridge might be the way to go.

 

[NoName]

As a Leaf fan I will be thrilled if the leafs D can stay this bad

Yeah, how will they ever contend with a top third defense and a not-1D who looks like a lock to score a bare minimum of 60 points (and is currently on more than a ppg pace)? Quick, Toronto has to trade Nylander for another team’s scraps just because said scraps are defenders!

 

[Cellee]

Nothing against the Leafs, at this point I kinda wanna see him miss a year, just because it would amazing think how it possibly got to that point.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

And again, do you think that Nylander will sign for less money next season, when he will negociate for less RFA and more UFA years? Add to that the inflation and you get a good picture.

If you sign him next year, his deal will carry a higher average salary than a deal signed this year, how would this help the TML long term.

Same way, next year Nylander will be worth less than this year.

The best thing the TML can do is sign or trade him until the signing window closes.

He can negotiate however he wants. His value won't go up. He remains under control. He'll already have lost $6 - $7 M. Does he want to lose another $6 to $7 M? Up to him. Reality is he will never earn that plus the money he loses in what that cash generates back.

 

[WTFMAN99]

No team is going to break up their top pair to acquire a 60 point winger. That is just lunacy.

So is trading Nylander for scraps. If Anaheim can’t part with either then there isn’t a deal imo.