Value of: Nylander (Trade)

[Canucks LB]

What does everybody think nylander should return in a trade?

He is tricky to figure out, can play center and wing, but is mostly a winger.

Talented kid, but in for a huge raise also, near 10m mark.

Thoughts?

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[Bond]

Pesce/Hanifin/some other similar dman

 

[Zur En Arrh]

Pesce/Hanifin/some other similar dman

With a significant plus. A first and a second at least

 

[VanillaCoke]

≥ PLD

 

[innitfam]

Pesce seems like the answer (with balancing pieces) but I'm not sure what Carolina's appetite to extend Nylander would be, especially considering they have Necas and Jarvis due new deals im 2024 as well. They do have TT's money coming off the books. But they'll need to look ahead to 2025 and beyond, no defenseman is signed more than 2 years... they won't want to tilt their cap structure abacus too much towards forwards.

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

What does everybody think nylander should return in a trade?

He is tricky to figure out, can play center and wing, but is mostly a winger.

Talented kid, but in for a huge raise also, near 10m mark.

Thoughts?

I’d trade Hanifin for Willy straight up. Toronto is thin on the left side. Money saved goes to Matthews. Better we’ll rounded d corps

 

[YP44]

≥ PLD

not without extension IMO. Plus center over winger. No doubt Nylander is more skilled but they are just completely different players

 

[TheBeard]

Wait wait, wait...

Nylander is available? This is news to me.

 

[peconcan]

I’d do Nylander and Brodie for Hanifin ++

 

[Sendhelplease]

With a significant plus. A first and a second at least

I don't see that big of a gap between Nylander and Pesce/Hanifin. Maybe a 3rd is added but I very much doubt Nylander returns Pesce a 1st and a 2nd.

 

[spockBokk]

Ryder + Halak + 2nd…

Or…

From this Canes fan’s perspective - Pesce + the PHI 2nd (early pick) and a prospect of the Gunler/Rees/Ponomarev/Drury ilk.

Higher cost than that? Then I doubt it’d be the Canes paying it.

 

[wmupreds]

Nylander is so much better than PLD. Obviously contract is a consideration and I guess position but idk.

 

[Haatley]

With a significant plus. A first and a second at least

Why would a 1st and a 2nd be added to Hanifin for Nylander?

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Pagnotta said with certainty that Toronto is on Pesce's no-trade list (19:57 --> Link).

Perhaps not preventative, but it does cast even further doubt on the concept.

 

[Bond]

With a significant plus. A first and a second at least

Nah

 

[Mickey Marner]

With an extension as part of the negotiation, Fiala or Dubois return.

 

[BayStBullies]

Pagnotta said with certainty that Toronto is on Pesce's no-trade list (19:57 --> Link).

Perhaps not preventative, but it does cast even further doubt on the concept.

Pagnotta isn't a real insider

 

[Bond]

With an extension as part of the negotiation, Fiala or Dubois return.

Fiala seems about right if they can find someone to take his cap hit without sending any back. Later first and decent prospect, but the 10 million price tag is pretty prohibitive on a long term contract

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Pagnotta isn't a real insider

He's certainly not tier 1, but if he says something with that much confidence, I see no reason to disregard it. An American having a Canadian team(s) on a no-trade list checks out logically.

 

[pickles555]

He won't be traded, unless it's for a severe overpayment, why would they?

If I had to estimate his value, it would be a proven #1D man plus a top 15 first round pick

Personally, I'd rather have Nylander as opposed to marner or Matthews

Just throwing a silly offer out there, how about askarov + Nashville's 2024 first round pick....even then I think Nashville needs to add something small

 

[I am Canadian]

Ryder + Halak + 2nd…

Or…

From this Canes fan’s perspective - Pesce + the PHI 2nd (early pick) and a prospect of the Gunler/Rees/Ponomarev/Drury ilk.

Higher cost than that? Then I doubt it’d be the Canes paying it.

There's no shot Canes are signing Nylander for more than 9M per year no? I'm pretty Leafs would give him a contract between 9-9.5.

Canes doesn't make sense to me, it would be a team that can't normally get free agents and are willing to pay Nylander 10M.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I don't see that big of a gap between Nylander and Pesce/Hanifin. Maybe a 3rd is added but I very much doubt Nylander returns Pesce a 1st and a 2nd.

And here I assumed he meant a + to Nylander to get those guys


Yeah Pesce for Nylander 1 for 1 is pretty close. People on here really don't understand the value drop off for wingers that aren't truly among the elite in the game.


They just aren't nearly as important as a Top 6 Center or Top 4D(Partocularly Right shots).

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

The Leafs just need to keep Nylander and gauge where they are at when the TDL rolls around. If the team is a major contender for the Stanley Cup, who cares. Keep Nylander, try to win a Cup, and if he walks as a UFA, so be it. You MUST try to win when the window is open!

 

[Unbiased Fan]

I’d trade Hanifin for Willy straight up. Toronto is thin on the left side. Money saved goes to Matthews. Better we’ll rounded d corps

Hanfin would be the 7th d on the leafs behind Rielly, McCabe ( need him on PK ) and Gio ( leadership and still
Close to Hanfin )

 

[blankall]

He won't be traded, unless it's for a severe overpayment, why would they?

If I had to estimate his value, it would be a proven #1D man plus a top 15 first round pick

Personally, I'd rather have Nylander as opposed to marner or Matthews

Just throwing a silly offer out there, how about askarov + Nashville's 2024 first round pick....even then I think Nashville needs to add something small

If Toronto doesn't trade him, starting in 2024/25, they have:

Matthews - $13.5 million
Tavares - $11 million
Marner - $10.9 million and due a raise
Nylander - $10 million

Bertuzzi and Domi will also be due raises and be UFAs. They also need to fill our almost their entire d-core and sign at least 1 goalie.

Good luck building a team around that. Nylander also seems to want to go to a team where he is more of a main attraction.