Confirmed with Link: Nylander signs extension of 8 years - 11.5M AAV

[Jojalu]

I think we use the cap space in this scenario for a number 1 dman and a top 6 forward right

Top 6 forward for sure.

What #1 D is available? They maybe could have added a couple #2/3 maybe 4.

 

[studebaker17]

I really think his dip last season was related to his buddy Sandin being traded. Not saying he'll score 120 but I'm not expecting an extended slump like that again.

I doubt he'll go into a slump . This team just scores way to much and he's getting lots of assists because of it. Same reason Marners numbers are higher than what he'd be on another team.
Unless the Leafs entire pp goes cold which could happen .

 

[Dekes For Days]

I think the defense metrics for the Leafs player have been skewed by their goaltending let in all sorts of soft goals.

Defensive metrics don't include goaltending impacts.

 

[ToneDog]

I believe he has been shutout 3 games this season.

 

[ACC1224]

I believe he has been shutout 3 games this season.

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Remarkable season. He's certainly playing better than I ever would have imagined.

 

[WillyC]

It was the lifetime TTC metro pass that sealed the deal for Willy.

Toronto is Nylander’s home.

 

[Jojalu]

I believe he has been shutout 3 games this season.

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There hhas been 4 games Nylander hasn't recorded a point.

The first 3 after the Sweden trip, then once last week.

He leads the league in % of games with a point this year.

If only he hadn't hit the post so often in those games after Sweden, he would be on an alltime run

 

[egd27]

Cap for next season has been set at $87.7M. The following season has also been set at $92.5M or $93M.

Set or estimated? (there is a big difference)

Link please.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

2019 ---- $10.9M x 6 years for RFA Marner
2024 ---- $11.5M x 8 years for UFA Nylander

Forget Matthews and his $13.5M, Marner is on the most expansive contract in the league. Insanity .

Don't get me wrong, we overpaid Nylander, but can you really bitch about $11.5M for UFA winger with $11M Paul Jr. still on his RFA contract?

It will take years and a massive cap increase for anyone to match $11M for RFA Mitch Marner.

Marner put up more points as like a 21 or 22 year old than Nylander has in his entire career to date. And that was before league scoring started to increase a ton the last couple years. That is why Marner got than insane contract (which I think was an overpayment but people are forgetting the season Mitch had as basically a kid still)

 

[arso40]

Marner put up more points as like a 21 or 22 year old than Nylander has in his entire career to date. And that was before league scoring started to increase a ton the last couple years. That is why Marner got than insane contract (which I think was an overpayment but people are forgetting the season Mitch had as basically a kid still)

Still doesn’t bring him to 10.9 or a number with a 10 in it

 

[Dekes For Days]

Still doesn’t bring him to 10.9 or a number with a 10 in it

Historically, it does. People don't seem to get that doing something at 21 is very different than doing something for half a season in the middle of your peak at 27, and it has very different impacts on contracts. Also, comparing those two seasons strictly by point totals skews their actual relative quality and impact. Also, term was mentioned, but term has complete opposite effects for those two types of contracts.

 

[Mess]

Nylander is currently on pace for 123 point season.

 

[ZEBROA]

I really think his dip last season was related to his buddy Sandin being traded. Not saying he'll score 120 but I'm not expecting an extended slump like that again.

I hope you are right. It is a great year for him so far.

 

[notDatsyuk]

I really think his dip last season was related to his buddy Sandin being traded. Not saying he'll score 120 but I'm not expecting an extended slump like that again.

He said that it was because he started worrying too much about the contract , which is why he told his agent to deal with it and leave him alone as much as possible.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I think the defense metrics for the Leafs player have been skewed by their goaltending let in all sorts of soft goals. Willy on another level in all categories.

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Maybe. I'm not big on advanced stats TBH, but I don't need advanced stats to know that defensively, Nylander isn't great. And that was my point from the beginning - evaluating players by offensive stats alone gives you an incomplete picture.

 

[Gary Nylund]

If Tre scores a top 4 RHD and they go to the finals, not saying Cup win this year, then I can accept next year being kind of a waste year til JT comes off the books. Hopefully JT will accept half of what he makes now, on a 2 or 3 year deal, and the cap goes up another 5 or 7%. If they crash and burn again, then blow it up. Keep Matthews, Nylander, Kneis, Bert, Mo, Lily, Woll as the base

I want to see how Bert plays in the playoffs and what his contract demands are before deciding on keeping him. I would also like to keep Domi, and Benoit.

Fire Keefe, hire Babcock, and Marner would ask for a trade in a week.

Sounds like a plan!

 

[ToneDog]

Still doesn’t bring him to 10.9 or a number with a 10 in it

With all the money came lots of ill will from many of the fans. Add that Leafs had to leak out what he was rejecting, that the deal would put them in cap hell, he bought himself zero goodwill from some Leafs fans.

When compared with the Marner deal, Nylander's new deal is more digestible.

 

[ACC1224]

With all the money came lots of ill will from many of the fans. Add that Leafs had to leak out what he was rejecting, that the deal would put them in cap hell, he bought himself zero goodwill from some Leafs fans.

When compared with the Marner deal, Nylander's new deal is more digestible.

Safe to say a vet like Treliving will handle things a lot better than Dubas did.

 

[ToneDog]

Safe to say a vet like Treliving will handle things a lot better than Dubas did.

It will be interesting. The good thing is that with JT coming off the books, 3 $11+m players will be more digestible 6/7 years later with a much higher cap. As such it will not be seen as crippling the team's chances to win. One can hope.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

Still doesn’t bring him to 10.9 or a number with a 10 in it

As I mentioned i think it was an overpayment but I can't into that whole debate again lol

 

[keonsbitterness]

It will be interesting. The good thing is that with JT coming off the books, 3 $11+m players will be more digestible 6/7 years later with a much higher cap. As such it will not be seen as crippling the team's chances to win. One can hope.

24-25 will be a tight squeeze. Robidas Island could be extra busy.

 

[Captain Crunch]

You're right, but with the help of Huberdeau and Weegar.

That’s true, especially with Huberdeau having a career year.

 

[Captain Crunch]

Nobody said it wasn't on the players. There's just a lot more to it than just win series = god, lose series = suck.

The players are the ones being paid, or should I say overpaid, to play. It’s a shame MLSE didn’t have the balls to tell this core that if you want to be paid, win some playoff rounds! I’ve finally come to the realization that I shouldn’t blame the core, even though they are greedy, it’s on MLSE and management for being so willing to give them everything they want while getting back diddly squat in return!

 

[thewave]

NOW it has been refuted by Dreger, 30 thoughts podcast, Pierre Lebrun, and pretty much anyone who is anyone. They all say it was 11M all along.

Sure they do. All the media outlets owned by Bell and Rogers smooth it over haha. The old we control information trick. So they lied then about 10.5 but not now.

 

[Dekes For Days]

It’s a shame MLSE didn’t have the balls to tell this core that if you want to be paid, win some playoff rounds!

Has nothing to do with "balls". What players are paid isn't about how many playoff rounds the team won, for any team.