BertCorbeau
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Seems like Shanahan has PTSD from moving core players like Kadri and Hyman, that he's afraid to do it with the big 3 so that they don't go elsewhere and win.
Confirmed with Link: Nylander signs extension of 8 years - 11.5M AAV
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thewave
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The lesson learned here for all prospects and people up for contract. Get the max out of Toronto or threaten to leave. We will then just become a high turnover team with little chemistry, win little and start the 2030s with how it was a mistake and how to rebuild the next time..
The big contracts and NMCs only set the stage for other players negotiations. MLSE is going to learn quickly that high turnover teams don't gel very well.
LeafsFan89
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I think Shanahan is just stubborn and egotistical.
This honestly makes zero sense. Don’t know what Tre and Shanny are thinking.
This is obviously an overpayment, so I won’t even get into that. But even if you do think he is worth this contract, why do this now? You’ve increased your offer by 2.5M based on 35 games? Why not just wait until the end of the season.
Our GMs suck at negotiations.
This is obviously an overpayment, so I won’t even get into that. But even if you do think he is worth this contract, why do this now? You’ve increased your offer by 2.5M based on 35 games? Why not just wait until the end of the season.
Our GMs suck at negotiations.
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WHAT IN THE ACTUAL SHIT THERE Treliving? WTF? You gave full NMC/NTC and are now throwing spewing philosophical quotes like WTF
thewave
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Honest question. For anyone out there...
Would you or would not feel a lot more comfortable having paid 11.5m and retained the right to trade him. (Even if you give him 3 years of NMC)
Drytoast
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and at the end of the day we will get our shit pushed in once again, by teams who have players who make less, work harder and play as a team.
so no. you should never compromise your cap because of 1 or 2 selfish pricks.
the NMC hurts because the AAV sucks.
Superstar
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Yeah of course I would feel more comfortable with no NMC. Who wouldn’t? Or maybe I don’t understand your question?
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MacKinnon and Tkachuk have no trade protection.
Aho, Pastrnak, Barkov all lose their NMCs when they get older.
Leafs gave him the world for 38 games.
Notsince67
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Sure but in theory, a player this age would drive the cap down for term. Giving off prime years at a healthy cap is a gift to a typical player.
djdev
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then goes on to say
"but if you cant evolve, it doesnt really matter much since i gave you a full NMC for the duration of the contract, so on 2nd thought, %$#@& just forget it"
Notsince67
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Who wouldn't?
A NMC has value to a player. I'm happy for the kid but he got it all.
A little higher than I would have liked but also happy to have Nylander sticking around. Love the commitment to sign for 8 years.
Superstar
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djdev
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i dont get the happy for the 8 years thing from people, if he had signed for 8 years on his 1st contract i would have agreed, this one is better for him than it is for the leafs imo
Because it finally shows commitment to the organization from a star player. Other organizations constantly lock up their star players to max term while the Leafs kept getting hosed on both term and dollar. At least we got the term finally with Rielly and now Nylander. The cap hit is a little higher than I would have liked but for 1 million extra, I’d rather overpay Nylander than a Kampf. Once JT’s contract comes off the books, this cap hit won’t be nearly as bad.
GoonieFace
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It’s not a commitment out of a sense of loyalty, but rather because he penetrated Toronto and than left before breakfast
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Superstar
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Completely agree...i don't think Willy will be worth the AAV the last 4 years of the contract (perhaps at an $8 million AAV clip if we're lucky).
djdev
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ye but other organizations do it on contracts of players going into their prime, not retirement contracts lol
Buds17
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I'm definitely not a fan of a NMC given for the duration of the deal. Realistically though, what might the trade return look like for a player with an 11.5M AAV contract?
djdev
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depends on performance, a top 10 scorer im sure the return will be huge, a sub ppg player, probably much less huge lol.
and with willy it could be either, although signs are pointing to him being a very good player going forward if you believe the last couple years as the norm.
Nylander is 27, players with strong skating abilities usually play longer. Not to mention who knows where the cap will be in years 6 to 8. 11.5 million might be a normal salary for a second liner.
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