Confirmed with Link: Nylander signs extension of 8 years - 11.5M AAV

[BallardEra]

I can picture Paul Marner juggling the numbers for Mitch as we speak.

 

[saltming]

Can we trade him for vesey now?

 

[hotpaws]

I wonder if he said the same thing after he signed Huberdeau.

		games	g	a	pts			--	--	--	--	--
2018-19	Florida Panthers	NHL	82	30	62	92			--	--	--	--	--
2019-20	Florida Panthers	NHL	69	23	55	78
2020-21	Florida Panthers	NHL	55	20	41	61
2021-22	Florida Panthers	NHL	80	30	85	115

Hubie's deal turned to shit instantly but he was well over a ppg his last 4 seasons in Florida and at the time the vast majority thought he molested the Panthers in that trade .

if i'm going to knock him in for his time in Calgary it's for the term he gave Kadri

Willie's deal is an overpayment based on league comps but unfortunately based on internal comps it falls right in line sadly .

 

[likecheese]

Look no further than JT he is getting the same points he always has but gets dumped on at least 4 times a game and then countless times in other threads during the week. Fans have balls to then say cmon give us a deal. Lol

Can't imagine why anyone would complain about his play this season. But he'll be the odd man out because age. If he wants to sign for a discount, he can. If he wants the bigger bucks, he'll be free to do it but it won't be here.

 

[authentic]

Look no further than JT he is getting the same points he always has but gets dumped on at least 4 times a game and then countless times in other threads during the week. Fans have balls to then say cmon give us a deal. Lol

Lol yeah if fans were constantly calling me an overpaid loser I would probably sign for even more money with another team, which all of our players could’ve done

 

[thewave]

Add Rielly’s 7.5 million and now it’s 5 guys leaving less than 30 for 18 others.

Muskoka 5 reborn! Muskoka 5 reborn!!

All with NMCs

 

[leafs in five]

I can picture Paul Marner juggling the numbers for Mitch as we speak.

just a really weird and wild thing to admit

 

[DocJ]

The reality is, if these guys were close, or hell, even close to being close, there's slack to be given here.

They haven't.

Instead they show up to negotiations with zero results and walk out with the biggest paydays in the league.

 

[therealkoho]

i'd argue willy is just a bit better than panarin due to his overall game.

as far as i'm concerned nylander is just 2nd to mcdavid for ice tilt. just controls the game with such laser precision

if mcdavid jumps from edmonton to toronto in 2 years... omg

It wouldn't work with two guys who demand a bigger paycheque

 

[LastOne2100]

It’s the principle of the matter, why can’t we sign guys to slightly better deals or just actually what they are probably worth. If you keep overpaying, this is how you create a mess. I’m glad he signed, but $10.5 should have been the number.

I agree, but unfortunately the time to stop the overpayments was the original Matthews and Marner contracts.

Nylander's $6.9M contract ended up being by far our best contract for years and he signed it just before watching the other guys make out like bandits (less years, way more money).

He was never going to take the hit again after Matthews' raise and then Marner is going to ask for $12+.

 

[kevsh]

Add Rielly’s 7.5 million and now it’s 5 guys leaving less than 30 for 18 others.

According to Cap Friendly:

"After signing Nylander to an 8 year/$11.5M AAV extension, we now show the with a projected cap hit of $66,438,000 in 2024-25, based on 14 contracts (9F-3D-2G) currently on the active roster. This leaves $21.062M in cap space for 9 spots."

https://x.com/CapFriendly/status/1744405064318439822?s=20

 

[hotpaws]

Career Leaf got to love it, rare these days. Now if Matty got 8 on his next deal that would probably be 3 or 4 too many.

AM getting max term at a huge cap hit is exactly why he wanted to go short on this deal .

 

[ACC1224]

I agree, but unfortunately the time to stop the overpayments was the original Matthews and Marner contracts.

Nylander's $6.9M contract ended up being by far our best contract for years and he signed it just before watching the other guys make out like bandits.

He was never going to take the hit again after Matthews' raise and then Marner is going to ask for $12+.

Yep, the Team will be impacted by the Dubas green negotiation tactics for a while still.

 

[BallardEra]

just a really weird and wild thing to admit

Not at all. I wouldn't blame him at all.

 

[Evilhomer]

You said there is a good chance they win a cup in the next few years or something to that affect. Very different than this follow up

I equate "realistic" with "good", but maybe I shouldn't have used the words interchangeably. To put it another way, I think their best chance to win a Cup is by having these guys on the team than not on the team.

 

[thewave]

I agree, but unfortunately the time to stop the overpayments was the original Matthews and Marner contracts.

Nylander's $6.9M contract ended up being by far our best contract for years and he signed it just before watching the other guys make out like bandits.

He was never going to take the hit again after Matthews' raise and then Marner is going to ask for $12+.

Probably why he stuck it to them to get his reparations. May as well take 1.5m a year and tack it on to his last contract but at that point you're just justifying your expense like some typical consumer.

 

[LastOne2100]

Probably why he stuck it to them to get his reparations. May as well take 1.5m a year and tack it on to his last contract but at that point you're just justifying your expense like some typical consumer.

Yeah, I consider at least $1M of this contract to be the apology for the last one.

But in reality, Nylander contract was good, the Matthews contract was ok. The real problem was the Marner contract which still looks like an overpay today, let alone when he was an RFA.

If you want our management to grow a pair and risk losing a top tier player to hold the line on contracts, frankly, it should be the Marner contract. He's been overpaid for years, least he can do is keep it flat.

 

[BallardEra]

The speculation was that the price was a little bit cheaper in the summer. Can you walk us through the process of how you got to this number?:

Treliving: I am not going to go right through it. I wouldn’t say the price was any cheaper in the summer. This idea that all of a sudden, we got to a point where everybody felt ready to get the deal done… It is like any deal. We always want a little less. The player always wants a little more. We find a way to get a deal done.

At the end of the day, we got a really good player here who is going to be here for eight more years. We are happy about it.

 

[djdev]

toronto has one championship in most of our lifetimes, the leafs must have looked at the raptors and just said "hey, lets do that" and paid our best players like we have 15 roster spots.

 

[thewave]

The speculation was that the price was a little bit cheaper in the summer. Can you walk us through the process of how you got to this number?:

Treliving: I am not going to go right through it. I wouldn’t say the price was any cheaper in the summer. This idea that all of a sudden, we got to a point where everybody felt ready to get the deal done… It is like any deal. We always want a little less. The player always wants a little more. We find a way to get a deal done.

At the end of the day, we got a really good player here who is going to be here for eight more years. We are happy about it.

It's not even speculation. His camp wanted 10.5m in the summer. That was the number and I thought they were going to do it. They said no and Nylander bet on himself and won big.

 

[Darch]

Could not care less how much they make. Now entertain me!

 

[Canada4Gold]

Next year actually feels easier than the year after that. If you run with Woll and Hildeby(or some cheap equivalent) then you've got between 12-16 million to improve roster holes like 2 LW and 1 RD pending how much you give Liljegren and if you are able to trim any of the fat lying around on some contracts we already have. Sure the year after that Tavares is up and more than covers any Marner raise. However Tavares + Marner + Knies + Woll + McCabe currently cost $25,594,667. Assuming any major additions this offseason aren't single year contracts those are your big FAs during the summer of 2025. Do you fill all those holes for cheaper than that?

Lets say Marner takes Willy's deal, and Tavares gives you a discount to fill the 2C hole at 5 million(I think Kopitar/Giroux kinds of deals are reasonable on the open market) that leaves you just over 9 million to fill McCabe's spot and for Woll, Knies extensions. The cap will go up, perhaps 4 million in that offseason as well. While I'd rather not do it I expect a bridge deal for Knies. Lets say 3 x 3.5. Woll however will be 1 year from UFA so any cheaper short term deal makes him a UFA. Not that that's a bad thing perhaps, we're now happy that's the route we took with Samsonov. If he's earned it by then a long term Woll deal might look like 5 x 5. That leaves you with a hair above 4.5 million to fill McCabe's 2nd pair spot which won't be easy. This is also a positive outlook. Perhaps it takes 12 to sign Marner, and Tavares gives no discount. Sure we let him walk but a 5 million center to replace him won't be nearly as good. Bridging Knies is fine but they might want to go long term. Not great when your hand is forced to go bridge.

I'm saying all this to say the easy thing to do is to say next year is a squeeze and we're fine after that. After all next year will be the year where 4 guys are making 10.9+ million, then the least desirable one drops off. But there's some raises coming to 3 very important roster spots in 1 LW, 2 LD, and 1 G. They'll still be fine of course. It'll work. But those 3 cheaper roster spots actually make next year somewhat easier than you'd expect, and those raises will make 2025-26 somewhat tougher than you'd expect.

 

[34]

I can picture Paul Marner juggling the numbers for Mitch as we speak.

Trade him.

 

[PeteBestondrums]

The Leafs intend to die ( and die they will) on 4 soft, skill players.
Shanahan was as good as his word with those guys...only a complete idiot GM would ever agree to NMCs.
Just repeating the same flawed strategy over and over and over.....lots of big names though to justify $800 seats and $20 beers....

 

[DarkKnight]

Feels to me like this is the last year to win, next year looks a complete mess and a step back for sure now.

“It wasn’t a negotiation, it was a concession”. Real Kyper/Bourne. Exactly, how anyone can applaud this deal escapes me.