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Calgary Flames interested in a William Nylander trade​


If William Nylander is indeed traded, he could be headed to the Calgary Flames. Flames defenseman Noah Hanifin has stated he has no intention of signing a long-term deal in Calgary and it makes sense for him to come back in a trade for Nylander.

The NHL rumor that has gained the most traction is Hanifin and Mikael Backlund at 50% retained for Nylander.

Will Toronto and Calgary pull off this trade? Who knows? Nylander likely will not back down from his $10 million/year demand. Brad Treliving will have some tough decisions to make in the coming days or weeks.

Rumors have him seeking a salary for $10 million/year where Leafs management have offered him just under $9 million/year.
 
Mess said:

Calgary Flames interested in a William Nylander trade​


If William Nylander is indeed traded, he could be headed to the Calgary Flames. Flames defenseman Noah Hanifin has stated he has no intention of signing a long-term deal in Calgary and it makes sense for him to come back in a trade for Nylander.

The NHL rumor that has gained the most traction is Hanifin and Mikael Backlund at 50% retained for Nylander.

Will Toronto and Calgary pull off this trade? Who knows? Nylander likely will not back down from his $10 million/year demand. Brad Treliving will have some tough decisions to make in the coming days or weeks.

Rumors have him seeking a salary for $10 million/year where Leafs management have offered him just under $9 million/year.
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Except that Hanifin doesn't want to sign long term in Canada.
 
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Trapper said:
If the money is right I don’t see why not.
Nylander doesn’t seem like he dislikes a certain market in particular.
Lindholm makes 4.8 this year, if we can get him locked up as our 2C for around 7, if gives us more flexibility with Matthews/Marner and the team.
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The team seems dysfunctional from a management pov, lots of their core players want out, they just missed the playoffs, and ultimately I'd imagine he will have similar money offers from other teams.

If he doesn't sign an extension here, I doubt he does any sign and trade - as his agent would then lose the opportunity to play multi team offers against one another in the summer of 2024. Unless of course the Flames would be willing to meet all his demands

Lindholm probably comes in closer to 8-8.9 mil than 7 on an extension but I'd agree he'd be a piece I'd want in return for Nylander
 
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Racer88 said:
Well all that aside something has to be done different because it’s just not working with this core group. With this amount of talent there is no way that the height point in the last 5-7 years has been 1 single round win.

Either 1 of 3 things has to be true.

1- the cap structure with the core 4 has killed the ability to spend on good support players. If this is not the case then

2 -Dubas had no idea how to find value added support players with the remains cap. If this is not the case then

3 - Individually they are a good talented core but as a group they are a poor mix and cannot translate individually into a cohesive successful team

One final question is how long are you prepared to support this core and this cap allocation without succes
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4 - M&M don't play as well in the playoffs as they do in the regular season.
 
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Menzinger said:
Would Nylander want to sign in Calgary though? Seems as if the popular choice among players is to get as far away as possible from that team lol
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That is a new thing, and I think it is Sutter driven.

From what we've heard, part of the reason Treliving wanted to move on was he lost the fight between himself and Sutter with management.

Subsequently, information became public about Sutter's treatment of players and not long after Sutter was let go.

Prior to Sutter players seemed to like it here, city is easy, inexpensive compared to other Canadian locations (other than Edmonton).

I think the new arena could be something, just not sure ETA on that.
 
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Nylander Pricing Himself Out of Toronto​

Given the state of the franchise and the cap turmoil they are currently dealing with, it’s understandable that the Maple Leafs want to land Nylander somewhere in the $8- to $8.5-million range on his next contract. That said, the forward is looking to tap into that double-digit range after some successful seasons in which he was seemingly one of the more consistent forwards — especially come playoff time.

With that in mind, it seems as though when Treliving sets his mind to things he gets them done. Now, he’s got a hefty task in front of him with both Matthews and Nylander looking for new contracts and not a lot of wiggle room when it comes to the cap.

The glass-half-full side says that he finds a way to get it done and meet Nylander somewhere in the middle, but Nylander seems pretty set on getting that $10-million AAV with his new contract.

After all, since the start of his last contract, Nylander has scored 129 goals and 295 points — that’s good enough for 32nd in the NHL for goals over that span and 40th in points. He also ranks third on the Maple Leafs in goals over that span and fourth in points, so why shouldn’t his salary dictate that?

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Either way, one side is going to have to break and compromise. Otherwise, we could be having a discussion regarding a Nylander trade at some point in the near future as it would help the Maple Leafs clear cap space or, worst case scenario, we could be discussing the potential that he walks in free agency next offseason.
 
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Do we think Nylander would accept a trade to Calgary? Would he sign long term?
I think Seattle would be a good choice. Wright, Larsson, and a 1st.
 
Menzinger said:
Though given where he spends his offseason I doubt he views himself as an Albertan
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Good point, probably doesn't see himself as an Ontarian either for the same reasons. :wg:

Alberta is known for its Oil.
Oil can make you rich.
Willy is looking at becoming rich.
Maybe Alberta Oil money is the way to his heart. :)

His dad was once a prominent member of the Flames in the past.

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Menzinger said:
You'll likely get a diverse range of answers. Personally I'd say about 60-70% there's an extension. The teams preference is to extend and the player (seemingly) wants to stay. I think that's likely enough to eventually get something wrapped up

At the same time I think the agent is currently posturing a bit too much and by result overestimating/over-promising what Nylander will be offered in free agency by other teams.
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Is there a chance nylander plays this year with the leafs without an extension
 
leafan11 said:
I don’t get how any of this makes sense , if Nylander goes to UFA the max any team will offer him ( I don’t think any team will ) is 10x7 = 70 million. If Leafs offer 8.75x8= 70 million How is this a hard deal to get done ? Offer him 9x8= 72 million , 2 million more than he can get as a UFA. Almost every insider including Mirtle says he doesn’t think any team would offer him 10 as a UFA.
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It is likely a respect thing.

Seems to be the punishment treatment example ... maybe Keefe's attempt to show everyone that no one is above correction ... unless of course they make double digit$.
 
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Calgary Flames interested in a William Nylander trade​


If William Nylander is indeed traded, he could be headed to the Calgary Flames. Flames defenseman Noah Hanifin has stated he has no intention of signing a long-term deal in Calgary and it makes sense for him to come back in a trade for Nylander.

The NHL rumor that has gained the most traction is Hanifin and Mikael Backlund at 50% retained for Nylander.

Will Toronto and Calgary pull off this trade? Who knows? Nylander likely will not back down from his $10 million/year demand. Brad Treliving will have some tough decisions to make in the coming days or weeks.

Rumors have him seeking a salary for $10 million/year where Leafs management have offered him just under $9 million/year.
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I keep thinking it will probably be Hanifin as the main asset in return for Nylander. Hanifin is a year younger than Nylander, was a slightly higher draft pick and is a couple mil cheaper on the year. Hanifin may not like Canadian teams, but with Treliving here it gives us an edge and being the southern most Canadian city in a good competitive market may be enough for him to stay. Likewise, Nylander was born in Calgary and would probably take their highest offer, like Huberdeau and Weegar before him.

If Hanifin comes in at 6.5M-7M on an 8 year deal, while Nylander grabs 9.5M-10M per over 8 years. The Leafs do get the extra needed cap room to make good sized changes, while playing it smart asset management wise.

Hanifin + Backlund (50% retained) + Zadorov or Hanifin + Lindholm for Nylander + Brodie
 
leafan11 said:
I don’t get how any of this makes sense , if Nylander goes to UFA the max any team will offer him ( I don’t think any team will ) is 10x7 = 70 million. If Leafs offer 8.75x8= 70 million How is this a hard deal to get done ? Offer him 9x8= 72 million , 2 million more than he can get as a UFA. Almost every insider including Mirtle says he doesn’t think any team would offer him 10 as a UFA.
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He'd definitely get offered 10 as a UFA next year, and he'd definitely get more than 2m in 2031 if he signed a 7 year deal. But this will probably get done in a range between what the Leafs are currently offering and what Nylander currently wants. This is just how contract negotiations work. There's really nothing abnormal about it.
 
Lindholm would be a great addition for us, allowing us to shift Tavares to LW while rolling a more traditional 2-way center who has elite defensive ability. Would be my target for sure.

But is calgary on willie’s ntc list?
 
notbias said:
4 - it is really hard to win a cup and our fanbase is by far the least patient and most irrational.
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I agree it’s hard to win a cup and apparently it’s hard for the Leafs to win more than a single 1st round win.
While this current group is only responsible for the last 5-7 years that doesn’t change the fact that this is the first round win in 20 year and no cup since 1967. The fact that so many of us have remained Leafs fans says that we are anything but “ least patient”
to say that we are irrational is wrong as well.
An inexperienced President hired a rookie GM who then hired a rookie coach.
Said GM then instituted a cap structure that has been one attempt to surround the expensive 4 with scrap heap players and the result is 1 round win.
Wanting real change and meaningful results and not just sending bags more money to these guys is not irrational.
I would argue that running the same thing over and over again……same core, same failure of a coach and jus accepting this is irrational
 
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Calgary Flames interested in a William Nylander trade​


If William Nylander is indeed traded, he could be headed to the Calgary Flames. Flames defenseman Noah Hanifin has stated he has no intention of signing a long-term deal in Calgary and it makes sense for him to come back in a trade for Nylander.

The NHL rumor that has gained the most traction is Hanifin and Mikael Backlund at 50% retained for Nylander.

Will Toronto and Calgary pull off this trade? Who knows? Nylander likely will not back down from his $10 million/year demand. Brad Treliving will have some tough decisions to make in the coming days or weeks.

Rumors have him seeking a salary for $10 million/year where Leafs management have offered him just under $9 million/year.
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I have a hard time seeing Calgary attracting any prime aged and established NHLers for the next little while.
 
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