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What is your limit for a "Cap %" for Nylander

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TheShape said:
If I'm Nylander I'm not accepting any less than Marner or Tavares. Dubas set a really bad precedent here.
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I think people are getting a little carried away. Toronto will sign him for less than $10 million per season. Likely closer to $9.5.
 
nuck said:
The package that makes it worthwhile starts with $10 in cap space so you can add a player like Eckholm instead of a McCabe. Willie was not bad in the playoffs but 10pts in 11 games and 40 in 56 career doesn't mean he carries the team in the post season. At least one piece coming back will be a young player on a value deal.
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Eck would be a huge upgrade on McCabe and I understand your point.

I havn't really seen the issue being giving up goals in the playoffs.

They can't seem to score. Trading one of the few that does is risky. Probably not as risky as continuously running it back though
 
No point trading Nylander. I’ve been a big critic of his and he seems to have taken a big step forward this year. If anything, I might be more inclined to let Marner walk. That said, we should resign both. The Tavares contract is the issue and there is only next year left.
 
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Throw More Waffles said:
We know by now that leaf players look at internal comparables.

As of right now, if we look at the last 3 seasons, Nylander is 20th in points in the league, and 14th in goals.

That's VERY close to where Tavares was positioned his last 3 years into going into ufa (and if Nylander keeps it up this year, he may even surpass him).

Tavares was offered THRITEEN MILLION and that's way back in the year 2018.

What on earth could Nylander fetch on the open market?

The simple truth is we can't afford him. We just can't. So we should have traded him last year when we had more trade value.

The Tavares signing will cost us Nylander.

It didn't have to though. When Tavares was signed it could have easily worked, but it absolutely hinged on one key thing. Having at least 2 (hopefully 3) of the young core signing their post elc contracts at terms where they expire the same year as Tavares. That's what we needed.

I was never critical of the aav of our post elc unprecedented dramatic overpayments, but the terms. Now you're all seeing I was right.
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You were vehemently against Willy at 7mm. While a bit rich given his holdout, YOU were insisting on 6 million. You aren't even accidently right.
Your gaslighting is a total joke.
 
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Notsince67 said:
You were vehemently against Willy at 7mm. While a bit rich given his holdout, YOU were insisting on 6 million. You aren't even accidently right.
Your gaslighting is a total joke.
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6 million at 6 years. 7 mil at 8 years. Market value at time of signing in relation to direct comparables.

Still stand by it. Term was always a problem in ALL of Dubas’s unprecedented dramatic overpayments .
 
authentic said:
He definitely looks that good right now, if he can maintain this level and bring a consistent two-way game in the playoffs I’d put him there



Why should he? He’s a better player than either of them were when they signed that and the cap is higher now too
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He stands out on the ice, he dictates the play. Strong on the puck, backs off opposing teams D. Has a canon of a shot as well.

Treliving should offer $10M @ 6 years

you know, he is looking at his best buddy Pastrňák’s contract, and saying pay me to Toronto. Can’t blame him.
 
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Evilhomer said:
I think people are getting a little carried away. Toronto will sign him for less than $10 million per season. Likely closer to $9.5.
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I would be more than fine with 9.5m, just saying if I were Nylander that out of principle, 11m isn't some ridiculous expectation.
 
34 said:
He stands out on the ice, he dictates the play. Strong on the puck, backs off opposing teams D. Has a canon of a shot as well.

Treliving should offer $10M @ 6 years

you know, he is looking at his best buddy Pastrňák’s contract, and saying pay me to Toronto. Can’t blame him.
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This. Especially with Nylander on C experiment.

While highly unlikely, I think that Boston would be one of the teams he would consider ... Not to mention he was C on the line with Pasta once upon a time if I'm not mistaken.


Extend or ship out of conference.
 
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Debrincat with 2x as many goals as 88 and leading the league in scoring. Two 40+ goal seasons on a shitty Hawks team, 14 more goals in 70 fewer games. How much more is Willie worth than Debrincat ?

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Evilhomer said:
Probably at least a couple of million more. They aren't really comparable players.
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Look at the bonus money Debrincat got and how much Leafs can offer 88 in money up front and no way is 88 worth $10m. If he sticks to $10m, Tre should find out where he will resign and move him.

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ToneDog said:
Look at the bonus money Debrincat got and how much Leafs can offer 88 in money up front and no way is 88 worth $10m. If he sticks to $10m, Tre should find out where he will resign and move him.

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These just aren't comparable situations (RFA vs UFA) or players. Nylander is going to get $9.5, and Toronto would be foolish to not pay it. They know that. There is honestly zero chance Toronto will trade him.
 
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Evilhomer said:
These just aren't comparable situations (RFA vs UFA) or players. Nylander is going to get $9.5, and Toronto would be foolish to not pay it. They know that. There is honestly zero chance Toronto will trade him.
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No reason Willie should not sign a front loaded $9.5x8 year offer. No idea if Leafs have offered it. At the end of the day if you believe that you can win with 4 guys making half the cap, overpay him. I am not in that boat and there is enough of a sample size that tells me these 4 won't win a SC for the Leafs making half the cap. If they do sign Willie and they bow out early, you gonna run the 4 back again ??
 
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ToneDog said:
No reason Willie should not sign a front loaded $9.5x8 year offer. No idea if Leafs have offered it. At the end of the day if you believe that you can win with 4 guys making half the cap, overpay him. I am not in that boat and there is enough of a sample size that tells me these 4 won't win a SC for the Leafs making half the cap. If they do sign Willie and they bow out early, you gonna run the 4 back again ??
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I don't think they will be eliminated at all this year, as I think most people are underestimating how good this team is and how mediocre the rest of the Eastern conference is. However, no matter what happens, it's already guaranteed that they are keeping this core in place. Matthews is obviously not going anywhere. Nylander will be resigned and will therefore not being going anywhere. Marner can block any trade, and the team will want to resign him anyway. Tavares will play out the last year of his deal and then resign for a number that is probably of what he is currently making. Any changes will come from the surrounding pieces, including goaltending, where Toronto won't be able to afford Samsonov after this season.
 
Evilhomer said:
I don't think they will be eliminated at all this year, as I think most people are underestimating how good this team is and how mediocre the rest of the Eastern conference is. However, no matter what happens, it's already guaranteed that they are keeping this core in place. Matthews is obviously not going anywhere. Nylander will be resigned and will therefore not being going anywhere. Marner can block any trade, and the team will want to resign him anyway. Tavares will play out the last year of his deal and then resign for a number that is probably of what he is currently making. Any changes will come from the surrounding pieces, including goaltending, where Toronto won't be able to afford Samsonov after this season.
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I think you are overestimating the Leafs and underestimating the Sens, Wings, and Bruins. Tampa and Florida might out of it by US Thanksgiving. Carolina and NJ and NYR won't be pushovers. Time will tell how good this team is. They have yet to play a solid team. Dallas will be a good test.

P.S. God help Leafs nation if they shit the bed again in April and they run the core back again.
 
Evilhomer said:
I don't think they will be eliminated at all this year, as I think most people are underestimating how good this team is and how mediocre the rest of the Eastern conference is. However, no matter what happens, it's already guaranteed that they are keeping this core in place. Matthews is obviously not going anywhere. Nylander will be resigned and will therefore not being going anywhere. Marner can block any trade, and the team will want to resign him anyway. Tavares will play out the last year of his deal and then resign for a number that is probably of what he is currently making. Any changes will come from the surrounding pieces, including goaltending, where Toronto won't be able to afford Samsonov after this season.
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If there is any truth to the news that Dubas was ready to trade one or more of the 4, then if Shanny gets axed there is almost zero chance they keep rinning it back if someone new comes in.

I can't say as an absolute that they can't win with this current model, but the evidence is piling pretty high that they have to attempt something new.
 
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ToneDog said:
No reason Willie should not sign a front loaded $9.5x8 year offer. No idea if Leafs have offered it. At the end of the day if you believe that you can win with 4 guys making half the cap, overpay him. I am not in that boat and there is enough of a sample size that tells me these 4 won't win a SC for the Leafs making half the cap. If they do sign Willie and they bow out early, you gonna run the 4 back again ??
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Are you saying they can win if Nylander makes 9.5 but they have no chance if he makes more than that?
 
ToneDog said:
Not next year if the cap goes up as predicted to $88m. Shuffling the deck chairs every summer to stay under the cap has not worked.
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Sounds like signing Nyalnder is a non starter for you then at any price.
 
ToneDog said:
I'd sign him for $9m x 8 with the expectation that we will not win the SC next year. Once Tavares comes off the books, hopefully Minten and Cowan are ready and we can take another run.
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10 is too much?
 
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