Has he ever scored 90 in his career? And over 80 only once or maybe twice right?
Doesn’t seem like a career 80-90 pt player based on that.
Anyways. Glad the leafs finally wrapped up the deal.
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Doesn’t seem like a career 80-90 pt player based on that.
Anyways. Glad the leafs finally wrapped up the deal.
Endorsement money is paid for extra work outside their job for the team they play for. There is a very clear distinction.
He’s 27 years old
He’s had 2 - 80 plus point seasons. 3 after this
He’s on pace for 125 Points this year
He’s scored 30 plus goals in 4 seasons
He’s scored 40 goals once
He’s on pace for 60 goals this year
He’s only played 7 full NHL seasons
He’s absolute stud player.
Do I think 11.5 is a lot? Yes. Do I think most players are overpaid? Yes. Would 31 other NHL teams be throwing more then 11.5 at him if he hit free agency? Yes
He’s had 2 - 80 plus point seasons. 3 after this
He’s on pace for 125 Points this year
He’s scored 30 plus goals in 4 seasons
He’s scored 40 goals once
He’s on pace for 60 goals this year
He’s only played 7 full NHL seasons
He’s absolute stud player.
Do I think 11.5 is a lot? Yes. Do I think most players are overpaid? Yes. Would 31 other NHL teams be throwing more then 11.5 at him if he hit free agency? Yes
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we are talking about markets , just like the market in Florida has tax advantages, the market in Toronto has the advantage of being able to avail endorsements which are not available in Florida to the degree they are in Toronto. Each market has their own competitive advantages.
there is zero evidence to suggest that.
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But would other teams throw 13.14 x 7 at Nylander?
That's how much he needs to reach 92M on the open market.
I think the next 5 for sure. Conditioning has changed and he is really good shape.
Should be easy to hit 71 per year.
Although that is nowhere near enough to be paid 11.5 per year
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Let’s see what he does after he signs, motivation has always been his problem going back to sweden
What really matters? Dollars or Cap percentage?
If Willy still signed for less of a cap hit than Matthews and Marner did years ago, who cares whatcthe dollar amount is.
Since the cap was created to always go up, salaries will always go up and cap % would be the only way to judge a contract.
Now if Lindholm, Petey and Reinhart all come way under a case can be made.
But Nylander's 11.5 (if that is what it is) at 87 million is the same or less than Pasta at 11.25 at 83 million.
If Willy still signed for less of a cap hit than Matthews and Marner did years ago, who cares whatcthe dollar amount is.
Since the cap was created to always go up, salaries will always go up and cap % would be the only way to judge a contract.
Now if Lindholm, Petey and Reinhart all come way under a case can be made.
But Nylander's 11.5 (if that is what it is) at 87 million is the same or less than Pasta at 11.25 at 83 million.
interesting take
i hve no idea who to believe lol
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If Nylander does sign in Toronto for 11.5M, he will still net less money than Matthew Tkachuk at 9.5M in Florida. According to the
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tax calculator tool.
i hve no idea who to believe lol
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If Nylander does sign in Toronto for 11.5M, he will still net less money than Matthew Tkachuk at 9.5M in Florida. According to the
@GavinHockeyWlth
tax calculator tool.
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I'd trust Allan Walsh's breakdown over Frank Corrado. Walsh deals with this every day. Corrado never worked in a no tax state and most likely has 0 education past high school.
Also: an article from the Athletic on this topic.
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I think they can correct his contract on the next one because of all of them, he doesn’t want to leave, is the home town guy and the last contract up of the lot. I don’t think he’ll take a cut, just that he doesn’t get almost the same as AM again. If Willy is getting 11.5, 12 seems right for Marner. Just nothing 13+. Strikes me as plausible, he’s not leaving.
JT will be interesting too, also not leaving.
The tax arguments that begin and end with state/province/federal tax rates of various districts are a game of checkers. Agents and top end accountants play 3D chess with it.
Sorry Gary.
I have tried to answer you in a DM a bunch of times but it won't go through for some reason.
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AAV matters to me more than cap percentage because not all contracts will share the same amount of term. That aside, I'd still deem Nylander's apparent 11.5 x 8 to be (somewhat) more "team-friendly" than Marner's contract and both of the deals signed by Matthews. The unfortunate part associated with that is trying to find/justify the better contracts on a team by comparing them with other contracts on the same team.
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