Post-Game Talk: Nylander and Shootouts get Leafs 2 points Vs Flames

[CabanaBoy5]

Oh Lord he’s going to put him back in tomorrow. What an idiot. In those 11 goals against I’ve seen many times where he isn’t where he’s supposed to be because he’s too slow. Indirectly his fault. Keefe is incompetent.

 

[Gallagbi]

Maybe Klingberg + a 3rd for Zadorov

The Flames then trade Kling (50% retained) at the deadline for another mid rounder.

Why wouldn't they retain 50% on Z and pickup a first rounder +?

 

[Divine]

He made 2 saves in the 3rd.

And allowed 1 goal

Woll sucked in regulation
Looked good in the OT/SO

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Keefe should be embarrassed and angry as all hell.



I don't care if Toronto got the win.



That was bag-skate worthy.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Even if you think none of the goals were on him, they spend too much time in the defensive zone when he's on the ice.

Maybe a 4th line with some offensive instincts can spend time in the other zone. Then we won't have to worry about bad luck

 

[hotpaws]

Keefe needs to prioritize winning hockey games over protecting Reaves' feelings

he's limiting his ice time , there's no need to slag him to the press

 

[Rude Dog]

It can be true he isn't responsible for goals against but hasn't helped deter goals against.

If Reaves plays in the other end of the rink, these bad luck goals never happen.

 

[PromisedLand]

I wonder if Samsonov is thinking....

"I gotta play tomorrow against the team on a hot streak with this shit defense in front of me and that to on the 2nd day of a B2B game? F Me!"

 

[ULF_55]

Is it coincidence that this comes out after enjoying a night in Toronto?

Leafs should want players that want to be in Toronto.

No to Cowan or Minten.

 

[Aashir]

I wonder if Samsonov is thinking....

"I gotta play tomorrow against the team on a hot streak with this shit defense in front of me and that to on the 2nd day of a B2B game? F Me!"

Meh, we’ve given him easy af starts and he’s bottled them

We’ve given him hard starts and he’s shat the bed. At this point he just needs to come out and play like a starting goaltender like he was last year

 

[ULF_55]

Guys in here talking about Zadorov like he is the second coming of Chris Pronger. He would be absolute dog shit for us. We need an Alex Pietrangelo type defenseman. Zadorov lol.... screw that turn coat.

If people are expecting a Pietrangelo yeah, they'd confused.

If they're expecting a 3rd. pairing defender who won't wilt when things get physical we're good.

 

[Gallagbi]

Is it coincidence that this comes out after enjoying a night in Toronto?

Leafs should want players that want to be in Toronto.

No to Cowan or Minten.

Id do Minten if we got a 2nd back

 

[ULF_55]

Id do Minten if we got a 2nd back

If the expectation is Zadorov would re-up ... swallow hard and sign off.

Cap has to go other way.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Is it coincidence that this comes out after enjoying a night in Toronto?

Leafs should want players that want to be in Toronto.

No to Cowan or Minten.

I think it's more because of the Flames not being interested in an extension and he wants more ice time

He's not gonna get much more ice time on a contender

 

[ULF_55]

I think it's more because of the Flames not being interested in an extension and he wants more ice time

He's not gonna get much more ice time on a contender

Watched a bit of him in Calgary.

He'd be an improvement on several Leafs defenders.

 

[glue]

Positives:
1. Nylander in god mode this season. By far the best player on the leafs this season (in terms of night in and night out consistency)
2. It’s early but we might have found ourselves a decent 3rd line and Nick Robertson might have finally arrived
3. Leafs won

Negatives:
Everything else

 

[Bomber0104]

He is not a point-producing D though... that is the issue... if he was, his defensive troubles might be overlooked a little.

They track changes on the fly too... he starts most of his shifts that way like every D... but Keefe tries to have him avoid the D zone more than any other D on the team.

And Keefe will continue to do that once both the #3/4 defencemen are back on the team but with the added bonus of no longer having to play Klingberg head-to-head against other top-six players.

Rather than freaking out about the player not being able to handle 2nd pairing assignments above his slot, why don't you take a breather and wait for the full group to come back before coming to hasty conclusions.

What you're proposing is to liquidate $4.5M in capspace from the team, replacing him with an AHL player after 13 games in the season.

Seems very reactionary, and emotional. I don't think you've quite come to terms with Kyle being gone and a new guy calling the shots. It's ok to still be hurt about it but you need to sort that out quick.

 

[WillyC]

When the game gets to 4-1… that’s Maple Leaf hockey.

 

[kevsh]

Keefe should be embarrassed and angry as all hell.

He probably is angry as hell. Probably let the team know it after the game. Maybe in the presser too (didn't see it).

But then tomorrow he'll have to walk it back and apologize.

 

[notbias]

And Keefe will continue to do that once both the #3/4 defencemen are back on the team but with the added bonus of no longer having to play Klingberg head-to-head against other top-six players.

Rather than freaking out about the player not being able to handle 2nd pairing assignments above his slot, why don't you take a breather and wait for the full group to come back before coming to hasty conclusions.

What you're proposing is to liquidate $4.5M in capspace from the team, replacing him with an AHL player after 13 games in the season.

Seems very reactionary, and emotional. I don't think you've quite come to terms with Kyle being gone and a new guy calling the shots. It's ok to still be hurt about it but you need to sort that out quick.

We are playing AHL players above him right now and they are doing better than him... what are you even talking about?

 

[Bomber0104]

We are playing AHL players above him right now and they are doing better than him... what are you even talking about?

The Calgary Flames scored 4 goals against the Leafs tonight, without Klingberg there for you to scapegoat.

Great success right?

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Watched a bit of him in Calgary.

He'd be an improvement on several Leafs defenders.

If he plays the same role here, sure. But if you elevate him, you're asking for trouble. He's not great in his own end

 

[notbias]

The Calgary Flames scored 4 goals against the Leafs tonight, without Klingberg there for you to scapegoat.

Great success right?

I am done going back and forth... if you can't tell that the defensive effort was better tonight, I don't know how you can be helped.

 

[TakeTheBody]

As impressive as Styles was tonight. AS good as Robertson looked on the third line. The most impressive thing tonight was the LEAFS actually taking a roughing penalty. The LEAFS roughing someone? This is rare.

 

[Divine]

The Calgary Flames scored 4 goals against the Leafs tonight, without Klingberg there for you to scapegoat.

Great success right?

Teams score a lot of goals when your goalie sucks.

The expected goals were 2.35 for the Flames
The Leafs expected goals were 4.31

Should have been a 4-2 Leafs win with average goaltending on both sides.