Proposal: NYI/Edm deal built around Romanov+for Bouchard

[bernmeister]

Weird he's on pace for more than 30-40 even strength points this year alone and had 47 even strength points last year.


Why exactly does Edmonton need a Romanov?

Oil needs/can use Romanov, but not at cost of Bouchard given present roster

 

[Glorydays22]

It is time for my yearly trade offer and I know NYI fans will point out that their D has been decimated by injuries this year.

My idea is Oilers trade and Bouchard to the NYI. Bouchard has 44 pts in 55 games this year. Romanov is not a pts getter he is more of a defensive D man. I am an oiler fan so I think the NYI would need to add some kind of pick.

Have at her--my yearly trade idea

Isles decline easily.....We are not paying him 11M that he wants as an extension. He's your problem.

 

[McShogun99]

One can play defense and the other is a fancy power play specialist….

7th in the league in 5x5 points the last 2 seasons while also having some of the best advanced stats among Dmen in the league 5x5. Bouchard plays modern defence where he excels at getting the puck up the ice and minimizing the other teams time in the offensive zone.

 

[GhostfaceWu]

Why do the Islanders need Bouchard in addition to Dobson? Yeah not happening and Romanov isn’t really available for that. Good try though.

lol your gm would be busting nuts if there was even a chance of you swapping Romanov for Bouchard. On the other hand the Oilers GM would be immediately fired.

 

[Glorydays22]

lol your gm would be busting nuts if there was even a chance of you swapping Romanov for Bouchard. On the other hand the Oilers GM would be immediately fired.

EDM is the one trying to move him, why because they dont want to pay him the 11-12M he wants per year. Guess what, we don't either.....We are fine with Romanov....Thanks, but not thanks.

 

[miscs75]

lol your gm would be busting nuts if there was even a chance of you swapping Romanov for Bouchard. On the other hand the Oilers GM would be immediately fired.

I don’t think you understand how good Romanov is if you think Lou would be busting nuts at that trade. Why add in another offense first defenseman when the Isles have Dobson already? Makes no sense. An Oilers GM already got himself fired from trading with the Isles.

 

[GhostfaceWu]

Yes, McDrai is of interest if you mean pieces from Edmonton. Neither of those are being moved at all, let alone to return Alexander Romanov. Edmonton needs a Romanov more then the Isles need a Bouchard.

In the sense that the Islanders wont even be making the playoffs to see the value of what a 30 point playoff run from a defenseman can offer a team, sure.

 

[miscs75]

In the sense that the Islanders wont even be making the playoffs to see the value of what a 30 point playoff run from a defenseman can offer a team, sure.

The Isles are missing the whole right side of the blueline, both backup & 3rd string and Mat Barzal yet are still in the wildcard mix. Not quite living off the scoring of 2 of the top forwards in the game but still not bad after how they started. Plus, the Isles already have something Edmonton doesn’t which is quality goaltending. AHL goalies can only take you so far.

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

7th in the league in 5x5 points the last 2 seasons while also having some of the best advanced stats among Dmen in the league 5x5. Bouchard plays modern defence where he excels at getting the puck up the ice and minimizing the other teams time in the offensive zone.

Also one of the most dominating playoff performances by a defender of all time.

Not of the cap era adjusted for all sorts of nonsense.

Just purely a top 5 playoff by a defender of all time. Arguably only exceeded by Orr and Potvin in the history of the NHL.

I can buy Leetch and Coffey if you value the puck rushing aspect those two brought.

 

[periferal]

Funny the OP would post this less than a day after the most egregious giveaway of the season thus far...

 

[Fist of Fury]

Also one of the most dominating playoff performances by a defender of all time.

Not of the cap era adjusted for all sorts of nonsense.

Just purely a top 5 playoff by a defender of all time. Arguably only exceeded by Orr and Potvin in the history of the NHL.

I can buy Leetch and Coffey if you value the puck rushing aspect those two brought.

Dayum, he's gonna break your bank, like he's a living legend already. But leave our Romanov alone, Pulock could be discussed, but he wouldn't most likely waive to Edmonton. Who knows.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

Bouchard is a 30-40 point guy away from McDrai on the PP

Bouchard had 47 even strength points last year in 81 games, even if you cut his powerplay points in half he's still over 60 points.

This year he is on pace for 42 even strength points and generally plays his best hockey down the stretch and into the playoffs.

 

[Sanderson]

and that is why I am focusing on him. His next contract will be about 6mill a year vs Bouchard 11

Focusing on someone, and trading a better player for him are two different things though.
You can also find a really good forward who will make a whole lot less than Draisaitl next year, yet you would be nuts to trade Draisaitl for lesser pieces.

You don't trade elite players for lesser players, because afterwards you'd be looking to find an elite player again. And yes, Bouchard is very much elite, even when taking his occasional brainfarts into account. All his stats back it up, and his playoff-performances speak for themselves. Even if one were to to follow the nonsensical argument that Bouchard is only a product of McDavid and Draisaitl, performance is performance. If it were so simple to get points with them, everyone would do it, yet they don't. If someone is a good fit, he's a good fit.

Romanov is a very good defenseman. Trading an even better one for him makes no sense at all. Especially when said deal would remove the only good RD and add yet another LD where none is needed. At best he is a lesser version of Ekholm. Which would be a fine target for the future if you consider that Ekholm doesn't have many years left, but not at the cost of the only good RD and main offensive defenseman.

That doesn't even even cover that it is completely unclear what Bouchard would sign for. An initial ask isn't the same as a contract agreed upon. Not to mention the cap going through the roof over the next few years.
It also doesn't take the interests of the Islanders into account, who are in a completely different situation than the Oilers are.

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

No self-respecting Islanders fan wants to move Romanov right now.

Wait until he signs the extension Lou offers him, then we'll want to move him.

He's about to go from 2.5m to 6 or 7 per. That's going to be difficult to swallow no matter how good he's been this year or his arc + salary cap increase roi.

 

[Seachd]

EDM is the one trying to move him,

You can be very sure they’re not.

 

[ViD]

To think that Montreal could’ve had a duo of Romanov and Sergachev and they just wasted it away

 

[McFlash97]

It is time for my yearly trade offer and I know NYI fans will point out that their D has been decimated by injuries this year.

My idea is Oilers trade and Bouchard to the NYI. Bouchard has 44 pts in 55 games this year. Romanov is not a pts getter he is more of a defensive D man. I am an oiler fan so I think the NYI would need to add some kind of pick.

Have at her--my yearly trade idea

Keep dreaming guy. Bouchard is one of the games best offensive defensemen and despite some defensive lapses at times, is still a highly talented player. Romanov for him is laughable.

 

[McSuper]

Bouchard is a 30-40 point guy away from McDrai on the PP

You sound like the NYR fan that said Draisaitl was a 40 point player away from McDavid. Please show your math work. I like to see how you figure this out

 

[MikeyMike01]

No thank you

 

[McSuper]

EDM is the one trying to move him, why because they dont want to pay him the 11-12M he wants per year. Guess what, we don't either.....We are fine with Romanov....Thanks, but not thanks.

1 fan making a post on a hockey board doesn't mean Edmonton is trying to get rid of him.

 

[McFlash97]

Bouchard is a 30-40 point guy away from McDrai on the PP

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How to discredit yourself for the 1000th time.

 

[Glorydays22]

You can be very sure they’re not.

do you see the isles trying to move Romanov? No....Bouchard, it's been reported he wants 11-12M per year and the Oilers are not biting, that's why you hear all the rumors. They can't pay him. They are better off moving him for a couple of pieces....But it wont come from Isles.

 

[Seachd]

do you see the isles trying to move Romanov? No....Bouchard, it's been reported he wants 11-12M per year and the Oilers are not biting, that's why you hear all the rumors. They can't pay him. They are better off moving him for a couple of pieces....But it wont come from Isles.

I didn’t say anything about Romanov. The “reports” were from before the season started. There have also been no reports of them wanting to move him. Nor does it make an ounce of sense.

 

[Glorydays22]

1 fan making a post on a hockey board doesn't mean Edmonton is trying to get rid of him.

fair enough.

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

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How to discredit yourself for the 1000th time.

40 point guy at ES. Then another 40 on the PP. He's not wrong.