Confirmed Signing with Link: [NSH] F Steven Stamkos signs with the Predators (4 years, $8M AAV)

[DFC]

Sure...whatever makes you happy.

Maybe you can start a petition that MacKinnon UNFAIRLY won the Hart trophy and it really TRULY belongs to '38 empty net goals' Kucherov for all those factors that you're going to come up with.

Here let me help you - there were also quite a few occastions where Jonas Johansson could have passed the puck to Kucherov at the beginnig of the season last year but decided to leave it for his d-man instead. IF he would have passed it directly to Kucherov it is WAY too obvious that he would have went around ALL of the opposing players in front of him and scored!! So yeah, Stamkos sucks and is proving it this year so that has a direct impact on last year's season so there is no other choice but to say : Kucherov > MacKinnon.

The world must be told the truth!!!!

All it really came down to is we were a terrible team without Kucherov last year. Wouldn't have even been close to the playoffs. Every single guy on the team other than kucherov was having a bad year uo until the TDL, and Kucherov drug us to the playoffs pretty much single handedly. That was always the argument. By the definition of the award, it was hard to he more valuable than that.

 

[Master P]

All it really came down to is we were a terrible team without Kucherov last year. Wouldn't have even been close to the playoffs. Every single guy on the team other than kucherov was having a bad year uo until the TDL, and Kucherov drug us to the playoffs pretty much single handedly. That was always the argument. By the definition of the award, it was hard to he more valuable than that.

Its a Canadian born center vs a Russian Winger. There was no chance they were going to give him that award.

I remember reading shit like this half way through the season.

It just makes you laugh.

 

[Romang67]

All it really came down to is we were a terrible team without Kucherov last year. Wouldn't have even been close to the playoffs. Every single guy on the team other than kucherov was having a bad year uo until the TDL, and Kucherov drug us to the playoffs pretty much single handedly. That was always the argument. By the definition of the award, it was hard to he more valuable than that.

It's weird how Lightning fans consistently assume that the Avs were fine without MacKinnon last year when talking up Kucherov.

 

[Rschmitz]

NSH: 1st round pick and Conor Sheary
TB: Stamkos 50% retention


Do it

 

[DFC]

It's weird how Lightning fans consistently assume that the Avs were fine without MacKinnon last year when talking up Kucherov.

It's not about being fine. We looked like a lottery team with one guy who outscored the problems and inflated everyone else's numbers.

Oh. One exception to that was Hagel. He was good all year.

 

[DelZottoHitTheNetJK]

Didn't get it for Nashville then, don't get it now.

Stamkos, Skjei, Marchessault. All guys with a lot of playoff miles on them on the backside of their careers. They weren't winning with or without these guys and the proof is in the standings

 

[Soundgarden]

Didn't get it for Nashville then, don't get it now.

Stamkos, Skjei, Marchessault. All guys with a lot of playoff miles on them on the backside of their careers. They weren't winning with or without these guys and the proof is in the standings

Marchessault and Skjei have been fine.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Marchessault and Skjei have been fine.

And Marchessault is also a good fit for the type of style wants to play, unlike Stamkos.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Yes, I don't think anybody in Nashville has any problems with Skjei or Marchessault (or their contracts). Maybe Skjei started a bit sketchy in the first few games, but he has gotten untracked lately.

If we're saying we basically got Skjei+2nd+7th for McDonagh, I'm satsified with that exchange. Or if you say we got Skjei+Molendyk+Schaefer for Ekholm, then we're still doing fine. The main problem in those areas is that it would have been much better to somehow have kept one of McDonagh/Ekholm and then added Skjei on top. Because it leaves us with 2 top-3 caliber defensemen on the team atm... (Josi and Skjei)... where it would have been nice to somehow have 3. Oh well.

 

[centipede2233]

this stamkos contract looks horrendous…

 

[sxvnert]

For years, Stammer was living off Kuchs perfect passes.

 

[Habs Halifax]

For years, Stammer was living off Kuchs perfect passes.

Yup. Stamkos is still good but no longer a top line asset. More like an overpaid top 6F now. His foot speed has been declining year after year for like 3+ years now. He lives on his shot.

 

[Voight]

For years, Stammer was living off Kuchs perfect passes.

You mean the empty net merchant

 

[Hale The Villain]

Marchessault and Skjei have been fine.

They need to be more than fine considering they have big contracts that don't end until they are 37/38.

If they are barely justifying what they are being paid now, what about years down the road?

Trotz tried to spend his way to contending status via free agency and I doubt it will go well. Very rarely does.

 

[DFC]

They need to be more than fine considering they have big contracts that don't end until they are 37/38.

If they are barely justifying what they are being paid now, what about years down the road?

Trotz tried to spend his way to contending status via free agency and I doubt it will go well. Very rarely does.

I just don't see a way the Stamkos contract doesn't turn out to be a disaster. He's kind of a plug with a big shot 5v5, sadly.

I've said this before, but Stamkos, even at his best, struggled to find long term chemistry with anyone. The two exceptions were MSL and Kucherov -- HHOF talents, the latter of which is probably the best pass-first winger in history. That's pretty much what you need if you're gonna make Stamkos a real scoring threat at this point.

He still has the shot, but he's not really capable of putting himself in position to use it.

 

[Rschmitz]

He simply doesn’t get to or get off quality shots from the scoring areas any more. He’s slow and needs scoring chances teed up for him.

When he came onto the ice for one period and scored his goal against Dallas in the cup finals a few years ago, that’s the last time I seen him beat someone with his speed.

 

[Stephen]

Its a Canadian born center vs a Russian Winger. There was no chance they were going to give him that award.

Bit overstated when Kucherov has already won a Hart... over a Canadian center as runner up...

 

[Stephen]

I just don't see a way the Stamkos contract doesn't turn out to be a disaster. He's kind of a plug with a big shot 5v5, sadly.

I've said this before, but Stamkos, even at his best, struggled to find long term chemistry with anyone. The two exceptions were MSL and Kucherov -- HHOF talents, the latter of which is probably the best pass-first winger in history. That's pretty much what you need if you're gonna make Stamkos a real scoring threat at this point.

He still has the shot, but he's not really capable of putting himself in position to use it.

It's always shocking when you see how poor Stamkos is at just transporting the puck in open ice or completing plays. He really has been and can be quite limited in a lot of aspects of the game that you wouldn't think if you weren't watching.

 

[DFC]

It's always shocking when you see how poor Stamkos is at just transporting the puck in open ice or completing plays. He really has been and can be quite limited in a lot of aspects of the game that you wouldn't think if you weren't watching.

I think most people weren't watching. Seems one of them was Barry Trotz.

Honestly it's been this way for a while.