Both Therrien and Amidovski imo; maybe Moses fits and excels quickly, and moves up the line up by next season.
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Both Therrien and Amidovski imo; maybe Moses fits and excels quickly, and moves up the line up by next season.
Therrien has three seasons to offer the battalion.
BS, NB could have probably would have given London a much tougher challenge if Romani & DiVincentiis were not knocked out of the playoffs within four periods of round one.
Are you saying Brampton and Oshawa need to change course and sell?
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No way in hell is Amidovski over Moses. Moses in an elevated role on a re-tooling north bay team is easily top 6. When Romani leaves I think therrien goes line 1 and Moses line 2 then in 2025/26 Moses has a big breakout season and is the line 1 guy
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re-tooling, not rebuilding; everything is in place for the defence and goaltending for two seasons. You might under rate Amidovski and Therrien as much as you did Wakely & Romani a year ago. Those two are top six players at 19-20.
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that’s what I meant.
If they pop off with 100+ points this year I’ll agree but i don’t see it happening. I’ve seen both of those guys play and Moses play this season and I personally think Moses is better than both.
Barrie is so deep Moses wasn’t a top 6 player- give him minutes and he puts the points up. Amidovski got off to a good start here but won’t keep it up. Therrien will be a good OHLer but won’t make the NHL. Moses should be a middle round pick. Amidovski mid to late round pick. Gotta remember he is an 06, same with therrien and Moses is an 07. They’re a year ahead of Moses and you can’t confidently say they’re better. Moses at 18 meanwhile will have a big breakout year.
None of those three are likely to be pt/game players this season. Moses may not catch up to the ohl level of play of Amidovski at any point in the three years he has remaining. The kid physical, truly tough, and a goal scorer.
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Dirty with all due respect if the gm of the battalion want Moses in return for wakely, chances are they see big things out of him.
I don’t think Moses is a pt a game player this season but I could see 50 points for sure playing elevated minutes on the battalion. I also don’t think amidovski is a pt a game player either lol. 5 games is a hell of a long way from 68 games- let’s see if that continues (it wont.) On the colts they would both be a hard stuck 3rd liner since they’re so deep. Moses is a year younger though.
Wakely had to go, it was what is best for him and the team. Moses just happened to be the best offer from a team suitable to Wakely.
Amidovski and Moses are not on a level with Patterson, let’s just leave it at that; and perhaps discuss it again 2-3 years from now.
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No debate about Patterson he put up 60 points last year lol. Amidovski and Moses’ career totals don’t even top that.
Point is. They’re not giving up Wakely one of if not their best player for a 4th liner. They clearly value him a lot higher than you do.
The kid is in his second season. He would not have dressed for the battalion in the playoffs last spring. It’s how the battalion operate. Moses will not come in to start on the 2nd line then 1st line if/when Romani is moved.; it just isn’t happening.
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Moses is 6’1, 203lbs and had 25pts last year. He’s a good size for a kid nhl teams will like he’s not a toothpick.
Amidovski had a whopping 10 points last year.
Therrien had 38pts last year in his second season with the team. I’m not arguing Moses is better than therrien right now- therrien if given more responsibility will score more.
However to say that Moses who is bigger and had more points than Amidovski, wouldn’t have dressed for the battalion is laughable. Oh and Moses is STILL a year younger. What happens if Moses grows 2 more inches and puts on 20 lbs and works on his speed? He will be MILES better.
Amidovski had a full year to develop in 2022/23 only for a whopping 10 points last year in his first year in the league.
Have to agree about Amidovski. I've been impressed in the past by him and his confidence with the puck, but there are some obvious shortfalls in terms of hockey IQ. I haven't seen any games this year, but I have my doubts he's on the radar for the NHL draft this year. Wouldn't shock me to see Moses hit the ground running.
Moses now 6’1” 203 lbs was drafted at 6’1” 209lbs 16 months ago. It’s possible that he could improve his skating and become a heck of a lot faster though.
I’m sure he will do well in NB in time. But he probably would not have got in any more playoff games for NB than Kostuch.
I could see Therrien wanting out. Especially if his production slips due to the team rebuilding.
It doesn't matter what could've happened though. Both years they lost. All the props to the Battalion coming back from 0-3, but they had their hands full in both years against teams that they were slightly favored over.
If you have a 1st round caliber player on your roster, you're just on a whole other level. Ritchie and Sennecke were absolutely dominant. Brennan Othmann was dominant.
Those players don't just fall into your lap in a market like North Bay. The best roster we've seen here to date came from a 1st overall pick. You get there by burning it down.
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I think the best NB roster was the one that also lost to Oshawa in ‘14. Whatever. Build and coach the best team possible to give yourself a chance to win. Brampton added their 5th first round pick over two years, and odds are they don’t win a championship.
I don’t think the battalion plan is to have 1/4 chance at pick #1
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Early trade results: welcome to the Troops, Shamar, with the shootout winner and 1A with 5 sec. remaining to tie. D-Wake with 2 SHG + 1A in a BAR loss - good news all around.
McIvor was absolutely brilliant in the nets.
Romani left with a shoulder injury, did not return.
Romani left with a shoulder injury, did not return.
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Are the broken collerbone rumours true? That would be brutal for him
190 is almost 206
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Well, I did expect Moses to get a prime spot to start; then, the team settle lines next week in practice.
But that Romani (LW?!)-VanSteensel-Moses set up was just crazy, and it may just cost NB eight less weeks of service from Romani; so you will be right, there is no way Moses spends any time as the fourth RW.
That isn't good. McDavid broke his collarbone at 19 as well. Injured it on Nov 4 and didn't return until Feb 1.
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He was NEVER going to spend time as the 4th RW
They’re not trading one of the best players in the league for some 4th liner
You don’t seem to understand that where Wakely would play would determine the return. It was not Kingston. Oshawa was not ready, and really not able to make that commitment. Barrie was offering (potentially very good) spare parts, not six or more (2-4) picks.
I can say with confidence that I watched [(at least)] double the amount of central division games that you did last season. Moses did not warrant top six minutes with the colts, or top 9 minutes with that team by mid-season. And TBH, I would have preferred J.Newton over Moses.
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