Definitely no shame in playing 3rd line on a contender, and Mysak is hell of an offensive player. But Arnsby will have top six TOI even if the battalion acquire a top 3-4 forward imo.
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You missed the part about being a 4th line player in his draft year (if the battalion were not committed to winning every game). That means Tarasevich was ahead of him on the depth chart too. The battalion are that deep.
I agree. He's the primary PK'er. He shouldn't see much PP time with Nelly, Jackson, Ertle, Petrov and MacDonald perhaps on the second unit. He'll definitely get his minutes.
Nah they forced him on the powerplay last year, they will try again this year. Strictly net front maybe but that’s all I’d want. Our young players should be ahead of him offensively this year.
I keep circling back to the idea that on a championship caliber team Arsby is your third line center. Any chance Jackson sticks with the AHL this year? It's Seattle's first year with an AHL team?
There is probably a small chance Jackson sticks if he can have outstanding rookie and AHL camps. But given the battalion track record with OAs and Jackson having less than two full seasons of OHL games including playoffs, I would be surprised if Jackson is not returned to NB.
Circling back to the idea of Arnsby as 3rd line centre, which centre do you think the battalion can acquire that they would put on the ice against the opposition teams best and the PK before Arnsby? And in the unlikely event the battalion get Fantili or Wright this season, do you not think Arnsby shifts to RW and still accumulates top six TOI?
Don’t think Jackson skates well enough for AHL. I’m fine with arnsby on 2nd line and 2nd pp
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I think we are both referring to why did the battalion not trade Outwater at trade deadline. It could be because they did not expect Ertel to report, could not be 100% certain Petrov would not in the AHL, there was the chance Outwater could show up to camp as a much better player than Tarasevich, and could not know a potentially more offensive version of the GM’s prototype forward would be available at pick 20.
It’s not like MacTavish or Xhekaj was available for the battalion; Dennis reportedly made the most aggressive offer for Xhekaj. Roger was gone, Perrot went to Windsor, Lalonde was an overly expensive in division luxury that did not exactly provide NB with the type of player wanted. What were the battalion going to offer up Outwater for?
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The reality of putting a team over the top is you are giving up lots of draft picks and young talent. MacTavish and Xhekaj were available to the highest contending team bidders. Dennis is a young GM who has done extremely well with the exception of first round picks and as he looks to make his mark as a GM in the O he'll need to take risks to potentially win a league championship. My concern is Dennis might not have the gumption to make the deal that puts this team over the top; The other challenge he is likely faced with is players would rather be traded to London, Kitchener, Windsor Oshawa, etc. Hard to get players to come to NB. Lastly, is their goaltending mature enough to win the eastern conference?
I don't think his skating is going to be his challenge I think he needs to show more emotion and compete imo, that's what's holding him back from the next level. I think the kid is from Ottawa, maybe the NBB should trade him to the 67s as they are in desperate need of a front line OA centreman. What are your thoughts on that? Maybe Arnsby can play first line center??
The thing is, those players were not available to the battalion. Having several suitors, Kitchener asked Xhekaj if he wanted to finish his OHL career at home. MacTavish according to Petes GM had a list of three teams he would go to; Hamilton, London, and Kingston.
Fair question regarding the goaltending. I think DiVincentis is ready for the playoffs, but not 50 regular season plus 20 playoff games. The BUG has to be good enough
Never trade a player in conference that put up 30 goals in 45 games and >1.5 pts/game unless it’s the best offer in a year of total rebuild.
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I agree about Jackson - he would have had 40+ goals and 100 points if he didn't get hurt. And certainly those two players wanted to go elsewhere - I guess that's part of my concern, how does NB become a destination of choice for top end talent? Anyway, the eastern conference should be tough this year and imo, NBB should be top four and even within the top four it should be tight.
they tried to upgrade the d, those moving d didnt want him. hes been on the market for months, intial kingston trade this year was suppose to be for hache
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There's no chance they couldn't have moved him for someone. He's the 11th overall pick. Clearly they thought he would get better in his 2nd year and now he's asked for a trade. I know you like to act like you know every single thing OHL but don't tell me not a single team wanted the 11th overall pick in his rookie year lol. Come on now.
Agree. There was a market for Outwater, NB got the winger they coveted for picks, and NB was just not very likely to trade Outwater for any OA D.
Having said that, if Winslow is unavailable for most of the season, Hache and an OA RW or C would make a lot of sense and pretty much complete the Battalion.
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Big fan of Rismond’s game, a year in po town should help. Therrien plays much bigger than his size
he was offered to sudbury and owen sound, his agent told me that. I don’t act anyway, i offer what I have been told. as you said, why wouldnt they trade him last year? they tried.
maybe teams wanted him but not there north bay valued him, how’s that
Owen Sound will produce lots of offense this year but once things are in full swing I am not sure they will be able to keep the puck out of there net. They could be in a lot of high scoring games. MacDonald had two goals - how did he look? What about Arnsby? It's preseason and is absolutely meaningless but still, I'd like to get a feel for how certain players are looking. OS kept out Barlow and Burroughs NB had out Jackson, Petrov, Ertle, Nelson, Mathurin and Winslow (Injured).
A lot of players are discussed at the dead line. If the battalion would not meet the wolves’ asking price for Stillman or more likely Thompson does not mean the battalion tried to trade Outwater but failed because of the value they placed on Outwater. The wolves players were priced at a point that was near prohibitive. I would like to know the discussion with OS; Henault and which top six forward?
generalsupdates asked why north bay didnt try to trade him last year, they did, they could not get a deal done. thats all im saying.
henault? hes on windsor? north bay wanted perrott bad.
Yeah, that guy. But it had to be more to it because no team gives up a middle of first round pick in January for OA Perrott; and, NB needed a scoring winger. I will guess those discussions resulted in what kinda looks like NB supplying the picks to facilitate a 3-way trade between WSR-OS-NB.
no idea but owen sounds third round pick produced way more then north bays 1st, maybe they didnt value him the same way north bay did. even now, outwater is what, owen sounds 12 forward? i can see how they would value picks more. if outwater was a d perhaps its a different discussion.
thats what i had heard the deal was going to be, outwater for hache.
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