Post-Game Talk: No OT Luck - Jets Lose Game 2 - 5-4 (2OT)

[Dayofthedogs]

Henricks with a slash to the back of the legs and a crosscheck from behind of a guy that doesn't even have the puck in the o zone on an odd man rush. Not sure what planet he is on, but it isn't PlanetSmartVeteranHockey that's for sure. Fine, if you can no longer skate with the young and not so young players, at least use your head a bit. Idiot. But like I said, it's not even his fault. It's on Maurice by now.

Are the goals Tanev scored on Maurice too?

 

[HPsauce]

On the GWG last night. 100% Roslovic's mistake. Toby pinches down the wall, but sees Roslovic covering up for him so he falls into a forward back check. The second Roslovic turns his skates to stop on the puck in the neutral zone (with 3 predators skating hard towards him) Toby gets on his horse trying to get back into the D position.

The read was right for Toby.

The read was way off for Roslovic, not sure why he thought he could stop on the puck and try to prevent that attack, Turris has position on him and was about 3 feet closer to the puck than him.

Rookie mistake?

Exhausted?

Who knows. But he did make the mistake.

 

[Dayofthedogs]

The Bruce Boudreauesque revisionist history in this thread is strong

 

[Flair Hay]

On the GWG last night. 100% Roslovic's mistake. Toby pinches down the wall, but sees Roslovic covering up for him so he falls into a forward back check. The second Roslovic turns his skates to stop on the puck in the neutral zone (with 3 predators skating hard towards him) Toby gets on his horse trying to get back into the D position.

The read was right for Toby.

The read was way off for Roslovic, not sure why he thought he could stop on the puck and try to prevent that attack, Turris has position on him and was about 3 feet closer to the puck than him.

Rookie mistake?

Exhausted?

Who knows. But he did make the mistake.

That's what I thought started the whole thing too but oh well. Second overtime a split second mental mistake was bound to happen sometime

 

[Jetfaninflorida]

Are the goals Tanev scored on Maurice too?

I have no idea what you are talking about.

The coach determines lineup and player utilization. If Maurice calls me up knowing that I could not compete at the level required but plays me anyway, my f ups are on him.

Tanev can play and is effective in his role on the team. I would not be. Hendricks is not and there are better options. If there was no better option than Hendricks, then it's not on Maurice. Then you might ask why our GM only has Hendricks available to Maurice. But that's not the case. Injuries aren't forcing Maurice's hand on Hendy either.

It's just a bad decision by an obstinate coach.

 

[Howard Chuck]

Agree about enstrom and hendricks,,but why no comments on wheeler and little's foolish penalties!?

Stop bagging on Laine, he has been wide open 2/per game and buff ehlers refuse to pass and go for broke again.

7 shots on goal and one post I thought he looked good in regulatuon although I missed the first ot period.

I know I keep taking heat for bringing this up, but last night again Buff had the puck, Laine was wide open for a one timer and he passed to Wheeler in traffic, losing possession. I don't understand why this happens over and over.

 

[Ducky10]

All of those goals were entirely on our defence outside of the 2-1 where it went right below his glove.

Team defence, or the defensive pairings?

Scheifele made a poor decision on the 4th goal, he knew it. Sure Enstrom getting turnstiled sucked but so many people look at things in isolation when breaking down goals. Three guys get caught deep against the flow of play and the D are now stuck having to back pedal and can't control their gaps. When Maurice talks about managing the puck better, these are some of the plays he's talking about.

Edit, not to mention 55 didn't have a hot clue on the 1st goal.

 

[Howard Chuck]

There's as much of an advantage as they had in Nashville. These teams are very evenly matched and neither can step off the gas.

This is mostly true, but we were pretty evenly matched without last change. Now with the ability to line match, I hope it provides us with an advantage and we see the Jets that we saw most of the season.

 

[Aavco Cup]

Jets lowest ice time forwards (ES):

Hendricks 9:37
Copp 9:49
Roslovic 9:09

Nashville lowest ice time forwards (ES):

Fisher 14:25
Jarnkrok 15:47
Hartman 14:47

In a game that went 85:37.

No wonder the Jets looked like they were out of gas in the OT.

It's actually not that surprising since we were chasing from behind the second half of regulation. Should they not try and tie the game?

 

[Jets 31]

As some have already pointed out , Hendricks absolutely neutered Roslovic and Copp . He made the whole line too weak to get enough ice time to rest the other lines . Did i mention that Subban is a joke of a hockey player and he's almost making 10 million a year , unbelievable .

 

[Dayofthedogs]

I have no idea what you are talking about.

The coach determines lineup and player utilization. If Maurice calls me up knowing that I could not compete at the level required but plays me anyway, my f ups are on him.

Tanev can play and is effective in his role on the team. I would not be. Hendricks is not and there are better options. If there was no better option than Hendricks, then it's not on Maurice. Then you might ask why our GM only has Hendricks available to Maurice. But that's not the case. Injuries aren't forcing Maurice's hand on Hendy either.

It's just a bad decision by an obstinate coach.

Do you really not understand what my point is about Tanev?

If you have a subscription to The Athletic I suggest you read Murats article about Hendricks.

He's been fine-good all season 5vs5

You've been waiting all year to blame PoMo. Not surprised you're picking this hill to die on.

 

[Skidooboy]

Wait.
We get the split, and push game 2 to double overtime?
in the 2nd hardest Barn in the NHL?
and Jets fans are unhappy?

 

[Aavco Cup]

The Jets also got away with "stuff"

 

[Huffer]

Lot's of talk about Hendricks, Enstrom, the last goal, etc. Not going to add to that as much has already been said.

I would have taken the split if it was offered before game 1, it just is a little painful because game 2 was there for the taking.

There are a few things that hopefully the Jets will review and address in the next few games. In game 2 especially I lost count how many times it seemed like the Jets winger would fly the defensive zone and then a Pred would intercept and keep it in. Not trying to single them out as I think everyone took turns, but Ehlers and Laine were 2 I noticed doing it more than others.

This series was always going to be a bloodbath, always going to be close. Now it's up to the Jets to come home and win the next 2 at MTS.

 

[surixon]

Do you really not understand what my point is about Tanev?

If you have a subscription to The Athletic I suggest you read Murats article about Hendricks.

He's been fine-good all season 5vs5

You've been waiting all year to blame PoMo. Not surprised you're picking this hill to die on.

I think most understand your point just fine. The board was against Maurice playing Tanev and Tanev has affirmed Moe's belief in him. He was right about Tanev and deserves props for that decision. That doesn't mean he shouldn't be open for criticism with regards to making another bet on a different player that is failing.

 

[bumblebeeman]

Thought overall the Jets played a great game, as did Nashville. Two of the league's top teams going at it in a very up tempo and exciting game.

For game 3 I'd like to see Hendricks out and assuming Armia or Perreault are not available, Matthias or Dano in. I know they'll keep Enstrom in but man does that guy get pushed off the puck easily. He's a very smart player and great passer but just doesn't have the size or physical abilities to compete in a physical playoff atmosphere. Too timid as well. Happy with basically everything else our guys did in that game. Scheif is a beast, Buff MVPing and Laine is due. Only other concern is if Lowry is fighting something... seemed to be avoiding contact for the most part and looked a bit off.

Expecting two similar games back in Winnipeg, except with the added benefit of home ice... that gives us the edge in an otherwise 50/50 proposition.

This is totally how I feel about the game, except about Enstrom. He clearly made one visibly bad play on the 1 on 1 where he got beat, but I don't think being pushed off the puck is an issue for him. I'm not saying he's the Jets best D man, but he still makes the team better when he plays imo

 

[Howard Chuck]

I was with a lot of people last night and couldn't concentrate as much as I would have liked on the game, but these are my thoughts.... and questions

Both teams are pretty even right now, even though we are missing two very important players from our bottom 6 which affects the TOI and lineups of the entire team. We really need armia and/or frenchy back.

Are we intentionally trying to lay back? Trying to stay overly calm? There are so many plays where it looks like we are taking our time getting to a puck or skating into the O zone. Once we make a zone entry or dump it in, there is quite often one Jet chasing hard to get possession. I kept waiting for other forecheckers to enter the zone outside of the TV screen but it just didn't happen. The Preds always come pouring into pick up the puck on their dump ins. This is something we have been great at this year, but for some reason we seem to have stopped.

Our passing has been awful in general. Not everyone, but just overall. Maybe nerves or maybe it's the fact that the Preds are a great team and pressure us?

I'd like to see Morrow back in with Buff and Toby with Myers. That was a very successful pairing against the Wild and I think maybe Toby is having a hard time jumping right into playoff hockey after so much time off.

One more thought, are we intentionally not following through on checks/hits? I see us completely avoiding hitting the Preds. At times it actually looks awkward.

We just do not look like the Jets that buzz sawed everyone this season, again that may be the result of playing a great team like the Preds, but I'd like to see some aggression out there.

 

[Ducky10]

It's simply shocking how anyone pins this on Toby, give your head a shake. Hendricks leaves the ice ,while looking back at the play developing, both Copp and Roslo let Smith and the puck get behind them after Toby pinches down along the wall, which is a play both the Jets and Preds D make routinely.

The simple fact Copp and Roslo were both in a support position is a pretty good indication Toby made a pretty good read.

Buff did play this very poorly

 

[sipowicz]

I mean, in less than 10 minutes TOI he had 2 minor penalties, one of which negated Copp's goal. In his 36 seconds of shorthanded time he was on the ice for a goal against. Relative to his TOI he had more impact on negative results than anyone else I think?



Here's a gif of his interference penalty.

First a slash, then a cross check in the offensive zone when Jets are about to score, is Hendricks completly brain dead into thinking that wouldn't get called, of course the Jets scored and the goal called back because Gramps Hendricks is a dumb shit!

 

[Channelcat]

Lot's of talk about Hendricks, Enstrom, the last goal, etc. Not going to add to that as much has already been said.

I would have taken the split if it was offered before game 1, it just is a little painful because game 2 was there for the taking.

There are a few things that hopefully the Jets will review and address in the next few games. In game 2 especially I lost count how many times it seemed like the Jets winger would fly the defensive zone and then a Pred would intercept and keep it in. Not trying to single them out as I think everyone took turns, but Ehlers and Laine were 2 I noticed doing it more than others.

This series was always going to be a bloodbath, always going to be close. Now it's up to the Jets to come home and win the next 2 at MTS.

Enstrom, Hendrick, Laine were bad, but I was most disappointed in Lowry. He was totally not himself. He engaged maybe half as many battles as usual and he lost those. I can only assume he was sick or hurting 'cuz I've never seen him play like that. That being said, the vast majority of the team looked pretty good last night, but were completely gassed by OT.

 

[Aavco Cup]

Hendricks is only playing because of the injuries to Army and Machoo.

Nashville is healthier than we are

 

[sipowicz]

Do you really not understand what my point is about Tanev?

If you have a subscription to The Athletic I suggest you read Murats article about Hendricks.

He's been fine-good all season 5vs5

You've been waiting all year to blame PoMo. Not surprised you're picking this hill to die on.

Gramps Hendricks made no impact on the Jets season, they won without him and won despite having him in the lineup, it should be apparent to anyone that he no longer has NHL speed, his endurance is bad (skates down the ice and halfway back and he's spent), on the PK he was mostly below average.

 

[Aavco Cup]

Most interesting comment from Maurice was how in game one the Jets looked "off" because the series they played against Minny the systems are very different than what the Preds run while the Jets and Avs are more alike. He felt last night's game was more like what he expected to see between these two teams.

 

[sipowicz]

Hendricks is only playing because of the injuries to Army and Machoo.

Nashville is healthier than we are

After basically costing the Jets the game last night do you think Gramps Hendricks is a better option than either Mathias or Dano? Don't think anyone does besides Maurice!

 

[Ducky10]

The fact the Jets were in a position to win that game into double OT seems to have clouded people's judgement. Getting a split in Nashville is exactly what everyone wanted going in, we got it. Now somehow the Jets are on shaky ground because they didn't take both games? Just because game 2 was close?

They lost a game in OT on the road, in double OT, against the best team in the league, after winning game 1. They are right where they wanted to be and likely expected to be.

 

[kanadalainen]

Some may think this to be overly presumptive, but my hunch is that Jets will go up 3 - 1 in this series.