Post-Game Talk: No OT Luck - Jets Lose Game 2 - 5-4 (2OT)

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I don't think anyone in his right mind would blame Laine for that last game. With couple of goals his game would have been perfect. Now it was only very good. Nashville announcers did like (or fear) a lot of what they saw on Laine's game.

A lot of good plays, 14 shots with 7 on goal. He should have had a 3 goals or at least 2+2. Got only 0+1, but again 0 goals against.

Laine has now 9 GF / 2 GA, which is 2nd best ratio after Roslovic (4-0) and exactly same as Stastny and Scheifele. 5-on-5 he has now 6 GF, which is third after Myers (9) and Chiarot (8).

Jets are generating enough offence to win, but they need to stick with that D game they had in the first game against the Preds. Playing very tight defensive game is the only way to sustainable success on playoffs, esp. against teams like Predators or Boston. Give them easy goals like they did in the second game and you'll be doomed. And stay out of penalty box.

Laine did some things right but it would have taken more than two goals to make his game "perfect." He continues to make brutal turnovers in his end (in all ends really), and he's doing a lot of drive-bys where he should be engaging and checking. To a large extent his teammates are masking his mistakes and poor play. If you add in that he isn't scoring goals, it's just not been a good series for him. He, like several others, needs to take a step up.
 

SensibleGuy

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Yep. Laine is a little snake bit right now, but he had at least 5 pretty prime scoring chances last night, and got in a nice little sneaky slash to the back of subban’s leg...bonus points for that. :nod:
 
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Laine did some things right but it would have taken more than two goals to make his game "perfect." He continues to make brutal turnovers in his end (in all ends really), and he's doing a lot of drive-bys where he should be engaging and checking. To a large extent his teammates are masking his mistakes and poor play. If you add in that he isn't scoring goals, it's just not been a good series for him. He, like several others, needs to take a step up.

But isn't it pretty stupid to focus on some player on the best line on the ice instead of actual poor lines?

Shouldn't it be a more reasonable focus to examine why CSW was much worse than Laine for instance? Why just focus on the 20yo who we know has things to learn yet? It's always like this after a loss. The vets get a pass for some reason and we focus on Laine because he made a few mistakes, but was still nowhere close to the reason why we lost.

CSW could not gain the zone to save their life for example. We need to worry about that, not Laine.


But on the other hand we know CSW is a bad line defensively from the regular season already, they just need to produce non-stop to be effective, and they have, in the past. They need to keep doing that or they will sink this ship in away-games where we don't control the matchup.
 

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I hope that no Jets players read this thread. Embarrassing that we are tied going home, played a double overtime 2nd game and almost went home up 2 games and the tone is negative. Some fans don’t deserve a team that is as good as our Jets.
 
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But isn't it pretty stupid to focus on some player on the best line on the ice instead of actual poor lines?

Why would I focus on other players when I'm responding to a post about Laine? Even so, I noted that he's not the only player who needs to up his game.
 

Jetfaninflorida

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In the grand scheme of things, the Jets are mission accomplished in Nashville with the split. The team played very well last night. I think the lack of playoff experience showed in the OT. We looked tentative, like we were playing to not lose.

Last nights game was truly a missed opportunity, to take a 2 game lead coming home. That loss is on Maurice. His stubbornness regarding playing Hendricks cost us a clean playoff victory last night. Hendricks cost us two goals. Basically, we would have needed to beat them by three to win that game because Hendricks. We almost did. But it is ridiculous that our coach would add that hurdle to the team. Hendricks cannot play at this level. It is so obvious it is embarrassing. It is embarrassing as a Jet fan, it is embarrassing for the team, it is embarrassing for Hendricks and it is embarrassing for Maurice but he doesn't even seem to know it. I won't go into the details as to Hendricks failings last night as they are obvious to anyone that knows hockey and they are well documented and discussed in yesterday's GDT.

I don't blame Hendricks at all. By now, everyone knows what he can and can't do, and he can't do NHL pro hockey at the playoff level. Especially at the level required to beat the number 1 team in the league. Our coach has choices and he chooses to put Hendricks out on the ice. It just cost us a game.

Maurice is a mediocre coach with a lot of experience. Unfortunately he is also proving to be obstinate in his use of Hendricks. It has already cost us a game in what is likely to be a very tight series.

If Hendricks is in the lineup for game 3, Maurice should be fired.

Go Jets Go!
 
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A somewhat rhetorical question: if we lost the 1st game and won the 2nd and got the split, how would we feel about that today?

I'm happy with the bigger picture result in Nashville, where the goal was to break serve. Now they need to get down to business at home where they control the matchups, and drive a stake into Nashville before the series heads back to their home turf.
 
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That Morrisey blast was a nice glove save by Rinne but would have been a dagger if it went in.
Tons of high quality scoring chances missed. Jets missed a great opportunity but still in good shape.

Lots of good bitching and moaning here which is therapeutic.
 
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I’m surprised to wake this morning and not read that Sissons has a hearing with DOPS for the ridiculous full speed knee from behind on Morrissey at the end of the 2nd period.
 
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A somewhat rhetorical question: if we lost the 1st game and won the 2nd and got the split, how would we feel about that today?

I'm happy with the bigger picture result in Nashville, where the goal was to break serve. Now they need to get down to business at home where they control the matchups, and drive a stake into Nashville before it heads back to their home turf.

I thought about this scenario yesterday night after driving home late from watching the game on PVR (a bunch of us retreated to the basement of the house party I had to be at, to catch the game).
1. On one very basic level it would have been sweeter to have lost the first, won the second.
2. You are right, the 1-1 split is great -> we have shown that we can obviously compete closely with them in their barn.
3. An observation -> Nashville looked like they won the SC after Fiala scored. They were really feeling the heat.
4. I'll get over the "lost opportunity" - this was balls-out hockey, the playoffs are loaded with moments like this.
 

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Quite a few of you had to suffer through an entire 114 pts season and 1 round playoff series win to get that hate and vitriol out over PoMo, Toby, Hendy, etc, out.

I'm not sure what kind of Bruce Boudreauy world some of you live in where Hendricks and PoMo by extension were more responsible for this loss over a penalty that I haven't seen called once before.....

Some of you even have pinned the OT goal on Hendricks change... Rich folks.

Should I mention that Brandon Tanev is also a "PoMo pet" that 90 percent of HF boards hated but PoMo sticks with has been pretty spectacular.

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Coming home 1-1 is fine by me.
 
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Dayofthedogs

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This loss is as much on Laine for missing on about 8 chances from prime spots as it is on Enstrom or hendy

My point with this comment isn't blamingthe loss on Laine either
 
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Quite a few of you had to suffer through an entire 114 pts season and 1 round playoff series win to get that hate and vitriol out over PoMo, Toby, Hendy, etc, out.

I'm not sure what kind of Bruce Boudreauy world some of you live in where Hendricks and PoMo by extension were more responsible for this loss over a penalty that I haven't seen called once before.....

Some of you even have pinned the OT goal on Hendricks change... Rich folks.

Should I mention that Brandon Tanev is also a "PoMo pet" that 90 percent of HF boards hated but PoMo sticks with has been pretty spectacular.

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Coming home 1-1 is fine by me.

They love to come out after a loss

It was a good game with a few mistakes made by both teams and Nashville gutted it out in OT for a must win for them.

Nashville plays a really simple game that is tough to defend against especially in the playoffs when you are getting no calls from the officials. They just keep flipping it out and hoping for a bounce or they skate it out and do that cross ice pass to our blue line with 2 men skating hard.

Hendricks should probably sit but I doubt someone like Dano goes in for him. If Armia or Perreault are back they would go in.

That last goal there was probably 4 mistakes that led to that goal. Lots of blame to go around. Oddly the one guy who didn't make one was Hendricks
 
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Laine did some things right but it would have taken more than two goals to make his game "perfect." He continues to make brutal turnovers in his end (in all ends really), and he's doing a lot of drive-bys where he should be engaging and checking. To a large extent his teammates are masking his mistakes and poor play. If you add in that he isn't scoring goals, it's just not been a good series for him. He, like several others, needs to take a step up.

Can you show all those brutal plays that he makes.

I think i watched last night game 2.5 x now
 
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sipowicz

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Quite a few of you had to suffer through an entire 114 pts season and 1 round playoff series win to get that hate and vitriol out over PoMo, Toby, Hendy, etc, out.

I'm not sure what kind of Bruce Boudreauy world some of you live in where Hendricks and PoMo by extension were more responsible for this loss over a penalty that I haven't seen called once before.....

Some of you even have pinned the OT goal on Hendricks change... Rich folks.

Should I mention that Brandon Tanev is also a "PoMo pet" that 90 percent of HF boards hated but PoMo sticks with has been pretty spectacular.

The rock some of you have been hiding under still has plenty of room but the bandwagon is getting a little too full.

Coming home 1-1 is fine by me.

Tanev has been pretty good throughout the playoffs and Hendricks has been mostly bad what’s your point?
 

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With regards to some of the other kids:

Ehlers has played well but the points just haven't followed. I like that he's using his speed, been more responsible defensively and is doing a good job fighting for pucks.

Connor has been a bit off. He's not taking care of the puck well o his end and isn't as noticeable in the 2nd and offensive zone. He looks a bit like Scheifele his forst playoffs where he looks overmatched at times. No doubt he'll get it but it may not be this playoffs.

Roslovic was hustling but hard to get a read on where he's at.
 

PhilJets

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This loss is as much on Laine for missing on about 8 chances from prime spots as it is on Enstrom or hendy


I think its Mason's fault

He was shown in one of the clip
Laughing with one of the trainer during o.t. while everybody was focus and teeth clenched.

He was not into the game.

Also Perrault. He can't heal fast enough.
 
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I do agree with you AWSAA- although many like Enstrom's quick skating and clean exit passes out of the defensive end--look what we're giving up--he's not physical at all , and has a "very weak" shot from the point ( just as you say)

You never know --if Morrow was in there--one of his shots could have been goals--he's really good--fast smooth skater, and has a great shot.

If I was Chevy--all I'd give Toby is $ 1.5 mil --"tops"-and sign him only as backup D-man for next season. I'd like to see Morrow in for the next game.
Just let enstom go im so over his injuries and his muffin shothe seriously has been garb last 4 years 6 pts 1 g 5 a isnt even worth 1.5 mill
 

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