no cap space

[DarkKnight]

I don't understand, I thought clown shows & circuses were cheerful & popular events!

It’s all good, just stay here

 

[Alamo Leafer]

So this is Dubas' Kucherov cap majic then!

I know I know, dumb-ass & completely unrelated comment. But ask me if I give a damn at this point with this org ffs!

 

[DarkKnight]

I fly the 5 consecutive 1st round losses banner.

The reality flags.

 

[hockeywiz542]

Petr Mrazek’s injury and a cap crunch forces Maple Leafs into an unusual predicament - The Athletic

As of yet, Mrazek has not been placed on long-term injured reserve, which would have freed up the cap space to bring up Michael Hutchinson.

“He’s still being assessed in terms of just how long he’s going to be out,” Keefe said. “At this point, it’s not looking like it’s going to be long-term in the sense of LTIR and that kind of stuff.”

LTIR would require Mrazek to miss 10 games and 24 days.

Matthews is day-to-day at this point, inching closer to his season debut after offseason wrist surgery.

Holl’s illness explains why the Leafs can’t simply send down Timothy Liljegren to create the space to recall Hutchinson. Liljegren will make his season debut in Holl’s place against Ottawa, playing alongside Jake Muzzin on the Leafs second pair.

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In theory, the Leafs could have waived Michael Amadio on Friday. But that would have left them short a forward.

For emergency recall purposes, the Leafs are required to play one game short of the required lineup — 12 forwards, six defencemen, and two goaltenders.

Essentially, they’ve chosen to play short in goal.

“There’s a lot of things that, to be honest, aren’t really my department and I’m not really aware of,” Keefe said.

It’s a risky, if explainable, decision by management.

Any kind of injury that forces Campbell from the game on Saturday and the Leafs will have to turn to Bishop to face NHL competition. They could have chosen to play short a defenceman (Liljegren) or a forward (Amadio), as other NHL teams in this circumstance, have chosen to do in the past.

Amadio played eight minutes on Thursday night against the Senators, and nine minutes in the opener a night earlier.

The Leafs may have feared losing him on waivers though. Their NHL depth up front has already taken a hit, with Adam Brooks stolen away by Montreal on waivers and Ilya Mikheyev on the shelf until December with a broken thumb.

Lose Amadio and the next man up would be Kirill Semyonov, who’s yet to play an NHL game.

 

[The Podium]

It’s embarrassing no matter how you rationalize it. Let’s hope Campbell doesn’t go down because then there’s nowhere to talk yourself out of the pretzel.

It’s not really embarrassing. Happens very often, usually with a team playing a forward or D short. Fortunately, yes fortunately, it’s a backup goalie because who in the flying f*** cares who warms the bench.

 

[DarkKnight]

It’s not really embarrassing. Happens very often, usually with a team play a forward or D short. Fortunately, yes fortunately, it’s a backup goalie because who in the flying f*** cares who warms the bench.

Sure why not do it all the time then, who f***ing cares!

 

[The Podium]

Sure why not do it all the time then, who f***ing cares!

Because it requires very unique set of circumstances to actually happen. You need to be close to the upper limit and have enough players (3+) with a minor injuries that cannot be placed on LTIR to invoke the emergency relief. Happened to Vegas last season, bet you didn’t find that embarrassing.

 

[Reydin]

I would've gone 1 forward short and double shift Nylander but what do I know. Go Leafs Go.

 

[The Podium]

I would've gone 1 forward short and double shift Nylander but what do I know. Go Leafs Go.

I don’t think they have any waiver exempt forwards. Would have to be Sandin or Lilly and play 5D.

 

[francis246]

True, but also completely unnecessary.

We know Holl was nursing some type of minor injury in game 2 and possibly game 1 given the way he played.

So why would you play an injured Dman in both sides of a season starting back to back when you have a guy sitting in the press box who’s perfectly capable of stepping in? Not only does Holl get hurt because of it but he was one of the worst players on the ice in both games, on for all 4 Leafs goals against so far this year.

Now we’re down a top 4 dman and one injury away from an emergency goalie situation due to completely incompetent roster management.

there is specific criteria to be eligible for LTIR. That is why Holl probably had to play because if he can still play but isn't eligible for LTIR whats the point of him sitting?

 

[DarkKnight]

Because it requires very unique set of circumstances to actually happen. You need to be close to the upper limit and have enough players (3+) with a minor injuries that cannot be placed on LTIR to invoke the emergency relief. Happened to Vegas last season, bet you didn’t find that embarrassing.

Like you said who f***ing cares, let’s do it every game.

 

[The Podium]

Like you said who f***ing cares, let’s do it every game.

You can’t do it every game? Are you even reading?

Meet the criteria for emergency relief -> get emergency relief until you no longer meet the criteria -> everything goes back to normal

 

[Racer88]

At least we raise the “Expected Goals” banner tonight. Right beside last year’s “Zone Entry” flag. What a time to be alive!

Yup

 

[Leaf Fans]

So, Pridham triggers the emergency recall rule with this move? We don't need to put anyone on IR and we can continue to accrue cap space or what?

 

[Nineteen67]

They were always going to make use of the emergency recall rules this year.

But they needed to play at least one game with a short roster to trigger the ability to do it.

They chose to trigger it by going with no backup goalie instead of going short skaters up front - like teams like Vegas and Colorado did last year.

Yes. This shouldn’t affect the Leafs at all. But, mismanaging your roster is a death blow for semi-contending teams like those above.

 

[Jozay]

Its really not that big of a deal

 

[rojac]

Since 2010, 10 goalies have been signed to an ATO. One was signed as a precaution in case the minor league goalie couldn't make it and didn't even end up backing up. Six simply dressed as the back-up and three actually played.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockey_contracts

 

[rojac]

It seems silly that some posters are so concerned that their little friends on Twitter may laugh at something their team does.

 

[egd27]

I would've gone 1 forward short and double shift Nylander but what do I know. Go Leafs Go.

How would you have done that? Who would play D if Holl is sick and Lil gets sent down?

 

[Stephen]

As a consumer of the league, I'm annoyed that a chunk of my money is going to teams like Tampa and the Islanders to win more games than my team because their franchises can't make money on WINNING teams, whereas my franchise makes a ton even when they're LOSING. I'm also annoyed that idiotic roster decisions by other teams (see anyone who is giving fringe players $6 and $7 million contracts to get to the cap floor) mean my team has to play with half a team of AAAA players because they've made it impossible to afford reasonable fringe players. I'm also annoyed that when franchises appear to be turning the corner and becoming contenders, this stupid cap system PUNISHES them for having too many good players too quickly, forcing them to trade half the roster to mismanaged bottom rung franchises because Bettman seems to think having every team in the league at around the same level of talent makes the league better.

Preach... I'm sure if somebody ran the numbers on every round of salary inflation, you'd probably see a lot of teams overpaying on certain kind of non elite talent which drives the price points on players up to meet those cap floor requirements. That puts a strange upward pressure on salaries in combination with the downward pressure of the cap ceiling. Is J-G Pageau truly a $5 million value with a career high of 43 points? In summary you're just basically breaking up teams and cutting off championship climbs soon after long rebuild cycles are completed. It's a zany product with no soft cap relief methods for flexibility. Fans are just a revenue input.

 

[yubbers]

If you're upset with cap management, I think blame should be placed squarely on the owners and the league and really not the individual managers.

Yes, we've been hit by 1.5 years of a pandemic, but to insist on a 50/50 split of revenues and a multi year claw back/salary cap freeze/handcuffing of teams isn't the way to grow the game. Leafs fans pay the highest ticket prices and can support a much bigger payroll (I think we were an $80 million team in 2004 BTW) but we have a UofT student on the bench because the owners across the league need to get theirs.

Now I've read it all. It's everyone else's fault.....not our GM. WOW. It's there other teams in the league using emergency uni goalies in unaware of?

 

[Canadian Finn]

will be fun to read the posts if our goalie gets injured, and we have to put the university goalie in.

it'll be zekes for days defending to hear himself speak, like usual. super awesome.

 

[zeke]

Do you want to have a GM that spends less on payroll because he thinks he needs room for injury replacements?

Or a GM that knows he can spend more, and then just use the Emergency Recall rule when he needs injury replacements?

 

[Stephen]

According to CapFriendly there are 8 teams in the league that don't have enough cap space to call up a league minimum player in a case where they drop below 20 players on their roster without LTIR solving the issue. Of those 7, 3 of them are using a 22 man roster. In addition to Toronto it would only take 3 similar injuries to Tampa Bay, and Winnipeg to leave them in the same situation. Calgary, Vancouver, Edmonton, Dallas, and the Islanders would require 4 injuries to be in the same spot. That's a quarter of the league. 9 additional teams only have enough space because they're using LTIR to solve the issue. That's more than half the league now.

IMO this has nothing to do with a GM putting his team in a bad spot but rather the bad timing of multiple injuries, and a dumb rule regarding emergency backup goalies. A GM who is more than 750k under the cap because he's afraid of a fluke run of injuries which includes a goalie is a GM who's not maximizing his resources because of a small chance at a random event. If we were running a 20 man roster and any short term injury caused it then you may be able to fault a GM.

I get the reasoning behind playing short 1 skater for a game, but a goalie is different. They obviously can't go with only 1 goalie so they came to this farce of a compromise but a team should have to roster 2 signed goalies with perhaps some other consequence like they lose 100k in cap space for the following year for the 1 initial emergency game they do it for prior to the regular emergency situation kicking in. While penalizing the following year isn't ideal there is precedent for carryover cap space with performance bonuses you couldn't fit in getting hit.

It shouldn't rile me up this much cause I'm not paying for a ticket to the game tonight, but it really says something about what an absurd cap system we have that the league will uphold the strict enforcement of the cap and have a quarter of the teams in the league can't even carry a spare player and have to go sign an amateur - just in case. If you ever thought the NHL cared about the quality of your entertainment - it's literally amateur hour.

 

[Stephen]

The ventral

Now I've read it all. It's everyone else's fault not or GM. WOW.

I'm not even really a Dubas fan...