no cap space

[Stephen]

how does the ability to pay the same players more money grow the game ?

A soft cap would allow teams like Tampa Bay to stay together and up and coming teams like Colorado and Toronto the flexibility to improve their rosters.

 

[zeke]

Seems like leafs nation has this all backwards.

This is the sign of smart cap management, not bad cap management.

The leafs always knew the emergency recall rules would allow them to call up players without worrying about cap.

For the small price of one game without a backup, they can now call up another goalie indefinitely even though that takes them over the cap.

They were always planning on using the emergency recall rules this year.

in case you don't believe leafs homer zeke, maybe you will believe noted canucks homer Drance instead:

 

[hotpaws]

A soft cap would allow teams like Tampa Bay to stay together and up and coming teams like Colorado and Toronto the flexibility to improve their rosters.

a soft cap would just give competent mgmt a larger advantage over badly managed teams like the Leafs

i'm just as frustrated as most Leaf fans are over how weak half our roster is but giving them more money to waste isn't the solution

and we'll always have the off season when we can spend the summer praising the new editions from the scrap heap , lol

 

[VanW27]

Im still failing to see how guys being hurt is a roster management issue? What’s the difference in your scenario? Holl would still be out.

My assumption, based on the fact he was ‘banged up’ and a game time decision for game 2 was whatever issue he had was exacerbated playing in game 2 and why he would miss game 3. Therefor sitting game 2 would have allowed him to rest/heal and play game 3.

Turns out he has a cold so in reality it would have made no difference and I’m out here sounding foolish.

 

[Stephen]

a soft cap would just give competent mgmt a larger advantage over badly managed teams like the Leafs

i'm just as frustrated as most Leaf fans are over how weak half our roster is but giving them more money to waste isn't the solution

and we'll always have the off season when we can spend the summer praising the new editions from the scrap heap , lol

Well, we’re 2 games in and the additions looked good in preseason, and we’re missing our franchise player, so I not nearly as pessimistic about the offseason or Dubas.

But as a consumer of this league, I don’t like the idea that I have to pay a premium to go to a game in my market to fund the league and 2/3 of my team is a revolving cast of replacement level projects year to year. Over a long enough time horizon this is happening to other quality teams as well, so it’s not an exclusive Dubas problem. We are just ahead of the curve due to when our big ELCs ended.

 

[hamzarocks]

Holl could use a day off, and Lilijgren could use this game to show keefe he's NHL ready. Hopefully Campbell doesn't get hurt, and we don't have to play Bishop. With our luck, he'd come in and give 4 goals on 15 shots lol

Leafs should bounce back nicely tonight vs the sens. Their goalies can't make 46/48 (near .960) every night

We get that down to near a.915 we should win considering the leaves will likely get 40+ shots again with how terrible the sens are defensively

 

[3blizzard4]

The regulars will ignore this

ummm posters around HFBoards with 60,000+ posts are ignoring this. One would think with that many posts you would research a thing a two before mocking or spewing your garbage. But no. Anything resembling something negative with the Leafs the TMZ/paparazzi posters around HFBoards have a field day and the hyenas all gobble it up.

 

[Ryan52]

Well, Liljegren plays tonight, and he has been better than Holl all preseason. Plus #1

Campbell is starting, and the backup has a 99.9% chance of not playing. Once the game is concluded, the Leafs have the emergency recall available to them without counting against the cap. Plus #2

It's the Sens. Plus #3

dont act like its a fool proof plan. you and i know backups play far more than 0.1% of the time

 

[zeke]

dont act like its a fool proof plan. you and i know backups play far more than 0.1% of the time

Most of the times backups play, it's because the coach chooses to yank the starter.

 

[ULF_55]

dont act like its a fool proof plan. you and i know backups play far more than 0.1% of the time

Backups most often are inserted during games because of ongoing results or injury.

If Campbell gets injured, then playing Bishop is a very insignificant situation.

Being without Mrazek and Campbell is significant.

I would guess goalies are injured more than .1% of the time, so I agree with that, but I don't have the data to confirm.

 

[Rogue Leader]

Seems like leafs nation has this all backwards.

This is the sign of smart cap management, not bad cap management.

The leafs always knew the emergency recall rules would allow them to call up players without worrying about cap.

For the small price of one game without a backup, they can now call up another goalie indefinitely even though that takes them over the cap.

They were always planning on using the emergency recall rules this year.

Yup, I support this. Dubas might have a lot of shortcomings (mainly contract negotiation and overpaying), but day to day cap management is one of his prime abilities.

 

[varano]

Imagine one day playing for your University team and the next day putting on the pads for a two billion dollar organization, that's almost half your tuition.

Yeah except they're not paying him

 

[Nylanderthal]

True, but also completely unnecessary.

We know Holl was nursing some type of minor injury in game 2 and possibly game 1 given the way he played.

So why would you play an injured Dman in both sides of a season starting back to back when you have a guy sitting in the press box who’s perfectly capable of stepping in? Not only does Holl get hurt because of it but he was one of the worst players on the ice in both games, on for all 4 Leafs goals against so far this year.

Now we’re down a top 4 dman and one injury away from an emergency goalie situation due to completely incompetent roster management.

Every team at the cap ceiling would have the same cap issues when facing 3 injuries accounting for over $17m in cap you can’t put on ltir, or are you suggesting they run well below the upper cap threshold?

 

[Dreakmur]

Yup, I support this. Dubas might have a lot of shortcomings (mainly contract negotiation and overpaying), but day to day cap management is one of his prime abilities.

One of his prime abilities is letting Pridham manage the cap.

 

[uncleben]

Some serious roster mismanagement straight out of the gates this year.

We have $17.4M in players on IR 3 days into the season... 1 F, 1 D, 1G, no time to accrue any cap space.
There's literally not a team in the League, save for Buffalo, that could eat that cap hit and be able to call up another player.

Not a mismanagement thing even for a second. It's a shit luck injury thing, and management got creative and is taking the gamble on having no reliable backup (the one player who in theory should not see ice time in a game), instead of defaulting to playing down a skater for a whole 60 minutes.

This is a sign of a good management decision in a bad roster situation. Any other narrative is ridiculous

 

[hotpaws]

Well, we’re 2 games in and the additions looked good in preseason, and we’re missing our franchise player, so I not nearly as pessimistic about the offseason or Dubas.

But as a consumer of this league, I don’t like the idea that I have to pay a premium to go to a game in my market to fund the league and 2/3 of my team is a revolving cast of replacement level projects year to year. Over a long enough time horizon this is happening to other quality teams as well, so it’s not an exclusive Dubas problem. We are just ahead of the curve due to when our big ELCs ended.

you can refer to us as consumers or fans or whatever term you like but the truth is your looking at this roster as i am and are frustrated that you don't see a cup winner and a convenient excuse is the hard cap

if we had hired a competent GM instead of Dubas he would have realized parachuting in an 11m dollar ufa in a non need position wouldn't end well which is why we're left to be upset at the cap or Marner for wanting similar money etc

 

[DarkKnight]

Dubas is smarter than everyone. Never forget. 4D Chess.

 

[hotpaws]

Dubas is smarter than everyone. Never forget. 4D Chess.

yup while the rest of the league is playing parcheesi our boy Dubie is playing pocket pool .

 

[DarkKnight]

yup while the rest of the league is playing parcheesi our boy Dubie is playing pocket pool .

We’re getting destroyed on social media, it’s pretty funny.

 

[hotpaws]

We’re getting destroyed on social media, it’s pretty funny.

not on social media , are they just ripping on us about this or are they going to town about other issues as well ?

 

[DarkKnight]

not on social media , are they just ripping on us about this or are they going to town about other issues as well ?

The goalie issue is trending.

 

[Racer88]

The goalie issue is trending.

Of course it is because it is totally ridiculous no matter what some posters would have us believe

 

[7even]

What do you mean? If Holl doesn’t play game 2 his injury heals instead of gets worse and he’s available tonight.

Undue pessimism to undue optimism fast enough to break your neck

 

[DarkKnight]

Of course it is because it is totally ridiculous no matter what some posters would have us believe

At least we raise the “Expected Goals” banner tonight. Right beside last year’s “Zone Entry” flag. What a time to be alive!

 

[Rogue Leader]

One of his prime abilities is letting Pridham manage the cap.

Yup, I agree. I really love Pridham, btw. This guy is totally worth his salary, unlike Marner - who is overpaid.