Confirmed Trade: [NJD/MTL] Jake Allen (50% retained) for 2025 cond. 2nd/3rd round pick

[The Gr8 Dane]

So is the 40+ games for both years or just next year

 

[viceroy]

Losing a retention slot for 2 years for a 3rd round pick is very meh.

Usually teams that retain for a year for that amount asks for a 4th

Well the spot spent on Edmundson opens back up in July.

 

[La Bamba]

Or maybe you're just bad at evaluating talent.

Y’all can never convince or gaslight me into thinking Jake Allen is a good goaltender

Bro has had SHIT stats for years

 

[IafrateOvie34]

I feel like I hear this guy's name more than I ever see him play.

If you hear Pang talk a lot, it could be one reason. He loves the guy.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

that would almost confime that he is going for a number 1 and then running another goalie with Allen. But if we are gonig with Allen as a backup, is he really that much better than Daws playing 25 games?

Yes. which is not to say Allen is a great goaltender. He is a decent goaltender and Daws is crap.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

 

[Captain97]

So is the 40+ games for both years or just next year

Both years combined

 

[thaman8765678]

So is the 40+ games for both years or just next year

Both.

 

[Extra Texture]

I would've been quite happy to sell Fitzgerald Nedeljkovic for a 3rd. Less money, good numbers and no term.

Quite the opposite, the Devils are going All-en. Get it?

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Watch he gets to 39 games and the Devila trade him away.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

This aged well.

Terrible move by NJ still.

Must be troubling that the Habs ripped your team off, I’m shocked Allen had anywhere near that kind of value.

 

[viceroy]

Y’all can never convince or gaslight me into thinking Jake Allen is a good goaltender

Bro has had SHIT stats for years

Allen was solid for us in the previous seasons mister stat watcher. So you definitely are SHIT at evaluating talent.

 

[Michoulicious]

Well the spot spent on Edmundson opens back up in July.

Then there is only 1 slot left in 2024-2025 with expiring contracts like Savard and Armia to trade.

Not great.

I'm not sure why other Habs fans hail it like a super deal by Hughes.

 

[McJedi]

A 3rd round pick for Allen at 50%. Seems reasonable. Esp if it converts to a 2nd with some conditions of success.

I'm not a Habs fan by any stretch, but their GM continues to demonstrate he knows what he's doing. And that club is probably in good hands long term as a result.

 

[La Bamba]

Allen was solid for us in the previous seasons mister stat watcher. So you definitely are SHIT at evaluating talent.

Of course I’m a stat watcher, why tf would anyone watch the Habs other than Habs fans?

Btw, the stats show Allen is SHIT

Edit: SHIT for years

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Devils could still trade for Markstrom. Their goalie duo would be under 8 for the two of them.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Bit worried NJ did this cause Martin Brodeur had some charming conversations with Jake Allen when he was St. Louis's goalie in 2014.

 

[74 others]

We could get a 2nd round pick for him, kinda crazy

 

[Frederixx]

A 3rd round pick for Allen at 50%. Seems reasonable.

For this year and next, yes.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Vanecek, Daws, and Schmid are all better.

I can't stop laughing.

Daws is garbage.

 

[thaman8765678]

Daws is garbage.

But still better than Allen lol

 

[pth2]

Overall, this is giving away Allen, and getting a 3d or 2nd for the retention.

It's not all bad for NJ - they get a veteran goalie for next season at a low salary, and for only one season. I think length of contracts is underestimated, as value, since teams won't want to sign a long-term deal nor pick up a scrub willing to sign 1 year deals.

Also, I think this stalled because Montreal held out the hope of getting its asking price for Savard, and that final retention spot was unavailable until something like noon today, when it got clear that Savard was staying.

 

[Speatleysson]

Good pickup for the Devils, good return for Montreal.

 

[BLNY]

Then there is only 1 slot left in 2024-2025 with expiring contracts like Savard and Armia to trade.

Not great.

I'm not sure why other Habs fans hail it like a super deal by Hughes.

How many other guys on the roster are likely to be traded with retention between now and a year from now? Armia and Savard. That's it. A year from now, there will be teams able to take them at their full salary - especially with the higher cap next year.

There's a very good chance it's a second round pick. This is a good move for Montreal.

 

[dgibb10]

People stressing over the conditions. 3rd for allen at 50% is fine.

The worst thing fitz could have done is massively overpaid for Markstrom. He didn't.