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Prospect Info: Nils Lundkvist: Part II

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Amazing Kreiderman said:
I wouldn't be opposed to a 1-for-1 trade where DeAngelo is traded for a LHD with similar impact. I have no clue who that would be though
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I believe one of the posters on here stated that DeAngelo played the left side in juniors. I wouldn’t be opposed to this if it accommodates 4 right handed shots on d.
 
Paulie Walnutz said:
I believe one of the posters on here stated that DeAngelo played the left side in juniors. I wouldn’t be opposed to this if it accommodates 4 right handed shots on d.
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That works too. I personally felt Fox would be suited to play the left, as his lateral movement is better than anyone on the team
 
I don't think this kid is going anywhere. Unlike ADA, Trouba and Fox, Lundkvist is cost controlled for at least 3 more seasons after this and possibly another. There's also an expansion draft coming up and there's a likelihood one of the current RD group may need to be traded for expansion or cap reasons. I would probably let him bake for one more season in Sweden before bringing him over. That timing will be ideal for the Rangers in terms of starting his clock.
 
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gravey9 said:
I don't think this kid is going anywhere. Unlike ADA, Trouba and Fox, Lundkvist is cost controlled for at least 3 more seasons after this and possibly another. There's also an expansion draft coming up and there's a likelihood one of the current RD group may need to be traded for expansion or cap reasons. I would probably let him bake for one more season in Sweden before bringing him over. That timing will be ideal for the Rangers in terms of starting his clock.
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Agreed there’s no rush w the 3 they have now so let him develop over there if he wants too . If not it’s ok to play in the AHL but it’s a year off entry level
 
Paulie Walnutz said:
I believe one of the posters on here stated that DeAngelo played the left side in juniors. I wouldn’t be opposed to this if it accommodates 4 right handed shots on d.
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Playing opposite side defense in the NHL is a hell of a lot different from playing it in the CHL. You're on your backhand a lot more and because of that there are more blind spots. Tony's kind of worked himself into an okay defender. It's the weakest part of the game--and the two other issues is he's not that big or strong and he's likely going to get hit more playing the other side because he's going to have less reaction time. I wouldn't do it. He's doing fine where he is. Why f*** with something that's working.

If we're going to experiment with that I'd rather Fox. I wouldn't guarantee it but I'd think he'd have a better chance of pulling it off.
 
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eco's bones said:
Playing opposite side defense in the NHL is a hell of a lot different from playing it in the CHL. You're on your backhand a lot more and because of that there are more blind spots. Tony's kind of worked himself into an okay defender. It's the weakest part of the game--and the two other issues is he's not that big or strong and he's likely going to get hit more playing the other side because he's going to have less reaction time. I wouldn't do it. He's doing fine where he is. Why **** with something that's working.

If we're going to experiment with that I'd rather Fox. I wouldn't guarantee it but I'd think he'd have a better chance of pulling it off.
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I think the point the poster was making was that TDA has played the left side before while he was with Sarnia and has seen time on the left side while being paired with Fox this season. Guess you can say the experiment is already happening.
Can't say I agree with not f***ing with something... if there was a time to f*** around with something like playing TDA on the left side knowing he has that experience or seeing where other players can play positionally, this would be the season to do it. Especially if it creates or puts other players on the table in potential trades to improve the team long term.
 
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charliemurphy said:
I think the point the poster was making was that TDA has played the left side before while he was with Sarnia and has seen time on the left side while being paired with Fox this season. Guess you can say the experiment is already happening.
Can't say I agree with not ****ing with something... if there was a time to **** around with something like playing TDA on the left side knowing he has that experience or seeing where other players can play positionally, this would be the season to do it. Especially if it creates or puts other players on the table in potential trades to improve the team long term.
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The other thing is with all of Fox, DeAngelo, Lundkvist and Lindgren in your lineup you have 4 guys that are around 5'11-6'0 and maybe that experiment works but maybe also we're going to need a bit more beef but really there are a lot of variables that have to be worked out. Trouba's here to stay for a while. Skjei--maybe another year or two or three but I think eventually he gets moved. Guys like Miller, Robertson, Rykov, I don't think Hajek is done, Jones, Keane, Reunanen---maybe missing somebody or two--some of these guys are going to force their way into consideration and they're going to move other guys along. You can't sit on prospects forever--if they're worthy sooner or later you have to give them a chance. People say you can't hit on all your prospects. I think most of the above whether they play for the Rangers or not though we're going to hit on. They're going to be NHL players. How it all sorts out remains to be seen.
 
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eco's bones said:
The other thing is with all of Fox, DeAngelo, Lundkvist and Lindgren in your lineup you have 4 guys that are around 5'11-6'0 and maybe that experiment works but maybe also we're going to need a bit more beef but really there are a lot of variables that have to be worked out. Trouba's here to stay for a while. Skjei--maybe another year or two or three but I think eventually he gets moved. Guys like Miller, Robertson, Rykov, I don't think Hajek is done, Jones, Keane, Reunanen---maybe missing somebody or two--some of these guys are going to force their way into consideration and they're going to move other guys along. You can't sit on prospects forever--if they're worthy sooner or later you have to give them a chance. People say you can't hit on all your prospects. I think most of the above whether they play for the Rangers or not though we're going to hit on. They're going to be NHL players. How it all sorts out remains to be seen.
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Agreed. But I hesitate to set anything in stone on defense because they are indeed about to or in the process of having an influx of talented prospects that will be forcing the conversation in moving someone like TDA or Skjei or perhaps eventually both of them. 100% agree that the prospects you listed are all legit NHL prospects and its something I think Gorton will use to his advantage. I have to go back to the round table I attended at the start of the season. Albeit, it was the start of the season but JD, Gorton and Quinn were all on the same page when it came to the word patience. It was a word that was used repeatedly when they were asked questions about their prospects and long term plans. Gorton has two of the hottest pieces available in Kreider and Georgiev. I highly doubt they will be with the team past this deadline considering this draft and kind of potential players they can get in return. And touching on the defense again... I wouldn't rule out someone like Skjei being moved by the deadline as well. I think once the defense starts to takes shape the team will take off. I think or am hoping it will coincide with extending players like Chytil, Kakko and Fox in a few seasons but I believe once the Millers, Lundkvists and Robertsons force the conversation then Gorton will do everything he can to improve long term. Having said that, I think this the last season that Gorton prioritizes the draft and will be going after having multiple 1sts and recouping at least a 2nd.
 
Elite prospect has his stat line in the SHL as 29gp 5-17-22...i'm assuming that doesn't include the CHL games? anyone know what his stats there are?
 
Leetch3 said:
Elite prospect has his stat line in the SHL as 29gp 5-17-22...i'm assuming that doesn't include the CHL games? anyone know what his stats there are?
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That's correct. For his CHL stats (2-9-11 in 12 GP), you can check their actual website
 
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Leetch3 said:
Elite prospect has his stat line in the SHL as 29gp 5-17-22...i'm assuming that doesn't include the CHL games? anyone know what his stats there are?
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Eliteprospects has CHL stats on his page as well, but it's a bit further down, as they consider it a tournament, not league play

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Hopefully he'll be a stabilizing force on our blue line for years to come. I think he also makes ADA expendable as we don't really need 3 smallish offensive minded D men on the same team (not to mention ADA is going to get PAID).
 
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ThirdEye said:
Hopefully he'll be a stabilizing force on our blue line for years to come. I think he also makes ADA expendable as we don't really need 3 smallish offensive minded D men on the same team (not to mention ADA is going to get PAID).
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I would only trade DeAngelo in a 1-for-1 trade for help elsewhere on the team. Something similar to the NSH-CLB trade with Seth Jones and Ryan Johansen
 
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ThirdEye said:
Hopefully he'll be a stabilizing force on our blue line for years to come. I think he also makes ADA expendable as we don't really need 3 smallish offensive minded D men on the same team (not to mention ADA is going to get PAID).
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Its much more likely that Nils is trade bait used to reel in a pretty big fish.

There is room for both of them on this team though.
 
Lundkvist, like Fox, is a sound defender because of his smarts (and skating obviously).

All three should be able to get the puck out of the Rangers’ zone masterfully, so I don’t see how they’re redundant. Not to mention that DeAngelo has bigger stones than pretty much every defenseman in the league.

K’Andre is massive, but if he ever makes the NHL his size isn’t going to be his trademark. He’s probably softer than these guys. Right now he defends worse than all of them too - why isn’t he the trade chip? Not implying he should be, but don’t think size should be the x-factor here.
 
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ColonialsHockey10 said:
Lundkvist, like Fox, is a sound defender because of his smarts (and skating obviously).

All three should be able to get the puck out of the Rangers’ zone masterfully, so I don’t see how they’re redundant. Not to mention that DeAngelo has bigger stones than pretty much every defenseman in the league.

K’Andre is massive, but if he ever makes the NHL his size isn’t going to be his trademark. He’s probably softer than these guys. Right now he defends worse than all of them too - why isn’t he the trade chip? Not implying he should be, but don’t think size should be the x-factor here.
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He isn't a trade chip because he is the only LD in our system with top pairing potential.
 
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