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Prospect Info: Nils Lundkvist: Part II

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Amazing Kreiderman said:
And we should judge players based on their on-ice performance but the "stats-game" so to speak is just for fun (for me at least). The big problem with comparable stats, and this can't be said enough, is that in many cases the parameters are chosen to make things look better than they are. Stats are like highlight videos. You cherry-pick until you get a result that you can be happy with.

These type of stats should never be used to make a case or win an argument. It's just fun to talk about.
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Yeah, but I think it can be good in relation to "weak" performers. Its easy to get really down on a kid that isn't accomplishing a lot on the stats sheet in relation to mind boggling numbers from the CHL. But its always going to be hard to score in pro hockey.
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
I wouldn't be opposed to a 1-for-1 trade where DeAngelo is traded for a LHD with similar impact. I have no clue who that would be though
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at this point, who could that be? Hedman? Krug? Werenski?

The players we would consider in return are not players the other teams would likely give, and the players other teams would likely give aren't player we would consider as equal to ADA. Thats why 1-1 deals are so rare. Its almost impossible to get equal value *and* for teams to agree to the values of both incoming and outcoming players. More often than not, these become multi-piece deals, just to overcome the force of friction.
 
ElLeetch said:
at this point, who could that be? Hedman? Krug? Werenski?

The players we would consider in return are not players the other teams would likely give, and the players other teams would likely give aren't player we would consider as equal to ADA. Thats why 1-1 deals are so rare. Its almost impossible to get equal value *and* for teams to agree to the values of both incoming and outcoming players. More often than not, these become multi-piece deals, just to overcome the force of friction.
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Certainly you are never guaranteed equal value, particularly when "value" is not always quantifiable. As long as each team is filling a need and improving their overall roster composition that is sufficient. Obviously you don't want to give up a lot more than you are getting, but it's not always a straight stat swap teams are looking for.
 
is he still 5'11" 174 lbs? Maybe if his trade value is high we should trade him, I am not excited about another small soft offensive Dman. That is usually not how you win in NHL.
 
The game has changed. You don't have to be a Hal Gill or Derian Hatcher anymore. My comparison is always DMen have become the equivalent of NFL secondary.

If you have four awesome RHD, one can always learn to play the left side. It's easier for a RH to go LH than the other way around.
 
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Skjeikspeare said:
The game has changed. You don't have to be a Hal Gill or Derian Hatcher anymore. My comparison is always DMen have become the equivalent of NFL secondary.

If you have four awesome RHD, one can always learn to play the left side. It's easier for a RH to go LH than the other way around.
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Why do you say this? I'd think many more LH dmen have experience playing the right side than vice versa since there are far more LH dmen than RH dmen
 
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Amazing Kreiderman said:
And I expect Luleå to go far this year. They've been battling Frölunda and Färjestäd for 2-3 years now for that top spot. They have the depth to go all the way
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Let’s hope Shesterkin is able to keep Hartford in the AHL playoffs till then, at least.
 
Skjeikspeare said:
The game has changed. You don't have to be a Hal Gill or Derian Hatcher anymore. My comparison is always DMen have become the equivalent of NFL secondary.

If you have four awesome RHD, one can always learn to play the left side. It's easier for a RH to go LH than the other way around.
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Is this in reference to TDA moving to the left?
He played left side most of the time during his time in the OHL with Sarnia. Perhaps it’s one of the reasons he’s been moved back to the right and paired with Fox at times, maybe to gauge if it’s a long term solution?
 
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