Friedman: Nikita Zaitsev has requested a trade from Toronto

[Dr Quincy]

Not if Sens through 9 million at each of Trouba, Connor, and Laine.

Explain how a team can offer more than one offer sheet at a time.

 

[Riellyfan04]

Teams would likely rather catch another GM off guard with an offer sheet rather than take on Zaitsev and his horrible deal

Dude whens the last offer sheet that happend? Stop bringing up these offer sheets they arent gonna happen. Jez

 

[Nervousbreakdown]

Not a chance! Haha

Jack Johnson got a 5 year deal for less money last season but he was 4 years older than Zaitzev is now. Erik Gudbranson will probably get 4-5 years this summer from some dumb GM.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Link?

Try every thread after that one time you made the playoffs.

 

[WhoTagz]

Guys.....enough with the petty shots back and fourth.......next comes infractions.

What if something Around Zaitsev and Marleau to the kings? Send the two contracts from Leafs to free up some money and maybe get a roster player/ prospect back

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Jack Johnson got a 5 year deal for less money last season but he was 4 years older than Zaitzev is now. Erik Gudbranson will probably get 4-5 years this summer from some dumb GM.

Yes and they are all bad contracts and their gms regret it. GMs won’t trade for bad contracts. They might sign ufa’s to bad contracts. But not trade for one.

Otherwise, can I interest you in Alzner, Lucic, Sekera, Manning etc?

 

[elitepete]

Canucks will give you future considerations for Zaitsev+1st.

 

[TT1]

Toronto fans/the media actually think he has value? He actually has negative value...

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

The problem is only that novice hockey fans put stock into player metrics, a tracking system that actually misses far more data than in actually records.

The fact this needs to be explained to you means you’re incapable of performing an eye test.

“Analytics, what a thing... a lot of people making money off that (chuckles) ... good for them!” - Mike Babcock

For once, I agree with Babcock, especially when he almost implies it might be a scam.

Analytics are a crutch for people who can't appreciate what they're seeing.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Not if Sens through 9 million at each of Trouba, Connor, and Laine.

You have no idea how offer sheets work, do you ?

 

[Cotton]

Toronto fans/the media actually think he has value? He actually has negative value...

Oh... okay then.

Closer up.

 

[Tripod]

Explain how a team can offer more than one offer sheet at a time.

They can't with his example....which you know.

But a team like Philly could OS Marner at 11 million and Kapanen at 4 million and make the Leafs sweat in what to do. Imagine HF if something like ever happened. HF would crash for days.

 

[Golden Puppers]

Toronto fans/the media actually think he has value? He actually has negative value...

Or maybe the voices in your head...because it looks like the vast majority of people concede that the Leafs would have to take some $$ back and/or send a pick as a sweetener to make any prospective deal for him work.

 

[TT1]

Or maybe the voices in your head...because it looks like the vast majority of people concede that the Leafs would have to take some $$ back and/or send a pick as a sweetener to make any prospective deal for him work.

I just listened to Button say otherwise on TSN, T.O's media is either delusional or theyre being paid to pump Zaitsev's tires.

 

[ijuka]

From what I've read, Leafs want to move him, don't want to be taking cap back, and actually want something of value for him.

Good luck with that.

 

[Martin Skoula]

I just listened to Button say otherwise on TSN, T.O's media is either delusional or theyre being paid to pump Zaitsev's tires.

Or maybe people who get paid to know these things are orders of magnitude better informed than a random Habs fan is.

 

[TT1]

Or maybe people who get paid to know these things are orders of magnitude better informed than a random Habs fan is.

look at what the guy i quoted said..

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Am I the only one amused that the entire Stanley Cup final thread is at like 2500 posts while a thread on Zaitsev is at 944 posts in 26 hours?

 

[Sparky93]

Kadri + Zaitsev for Brodie + Jankowski

Flames get a big upgrade down the middle, in exchange for taking on Zaitsev’s contract. Zaitsev isn’t great but he’s cost controlled and I wouldn’t be worried about a Valimaki/Zaitsev bottom pairing, what so ever.
Leafs get a big upgrade on the backend, save $2.67 million, this year, with the opportunity to erase the Zaitsev contract completely at the end of the season or resign Brodie.

 

[Ricky Bobby]

If Zaitsev is flexible about where he will go it shouldn't be too hard to move his contract.

4.5M cap hit for 5 years but is owed an average of 3.9 per year in real dollars after collecting 3M signing bonus on July 1st.

That's Ian Cole, Gudbranson, Kulikov, De Haan UFA type money. All deals signed in recent off-seasons. All guys coming off bad seasons (similar to Zaitsev) when they signed those deals. Zaitsev also looked a lot better after switching to playing Muzzin instead of Gardiner which I bet intrigues some GM's.

The options for UFA Dmen is also brutal this off-season so I'd expect some GM to take a shot on him.

 

[FlyingLeafus]

A lot of people saying(hoping?) he has negative value/ no interest. I'm not convinced that's the case, but I guess we'll find out soon.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Am I the only one amused that the entire Stanley Cup final thread is at like 2500 posts while a thread on Zaitsev is at 944 posts in 26 hours?

There is a Stanley Cup? Who is in it? Growlers up 3-1 in the prestigious Kelly Cup Final though with a 4-2 win tonight over Toledo.

 

[Ciao]

Jack Johnson got a 5 year deal for less money last season but he was 4 years older than Zaitzev is now. Erik Gudbranson will probably get 4-5 years this summer from some dumb GM.

Gudbrandson has two years left and won't be getting anything this summer.

He's not eligible for a new contact until 2020.

 

[JetsHomer]

If Zaitsev is flexible about where he will go it shouldn't be too hard to move his contract.

4.5M cap hit for 5 years but is owed an average of 3.9 per year in real dollars after collecting 3M signing bonus on July 1st.

That's Ian Cole, Gudbranson, Kulikov, De Haan UFA type money. All deals signed in recent off-seasons. All guys coming off bad seasons (similar to Zaitsev) when they signed those deals. Zaitsev also looked a lot better after switching to playing Muzzin instead of Gardiner which I bet intrigues some GM's.

The options for UFA Dmen is also brutal this off-season so I'd expect some GM to take a shot on him.

If a team was looking for a bottom pairing 4m dollar Dman, why wouldn't they just trade for one of the guys you mentioned, who are all better than Zaitsev and signed for significantly less term?

 

[heilongjetsfan]

He got Tanner Pearson for the rotting corpse of Erik Gudbranson.

It looks like he likes offloading overpaid bottom pairing defencemen, not giving up assets for them.

Yeah, but now he has a hole at bottom pairing, overpaid defenceman.