Friedman: Nikita Zaitsev has requested a trade from Toronto

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Rants Mulliniks

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I thought Zaitsev was the top free agent signing of the last few years? No? Well there's a whole thread raving about it.


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I thought Edmonton was better at every single position including management? How's that working for you?
 

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Without retaing any salary Toronto needs to sweeten the pot, maybe some Marlie prospects.

It's just funny because no one has actually provided a team that would take on Zaitsev's entire contract without sending money back or asking for a sweetener. I can think of teams that would be interested in Zaitsev (Florida, Edmonton, Anaheim and Dallas all make some sense, Florida makes the most sense to me personally), but taking Zaitsev's full salary either isn't possible or screws with their free agent plans.
 
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It's just funny because no one has actually provided a team that would take on Zaitsev's entire contract without sending money back or asking for a sweetener. I can think of teams that would be interested in Zaitsev (Florida, Edmonton, Anaheim and Dallas all make some sense, Florida makes the most sense to me personally), but taking Zaitsev's full salary either isn't possible or screws with their free agent plans.
Only the team can provide that. It is all speculation. If one were to suggest such a team another poster could instantly counter the claim. My opinion is that a lot of teams would want him including the Leafs who have not closed the door on keeping him.
 

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Only the team can provide that. It is all speculation. If one were to suggest such a team another poster could instantly counter the claim. My opinion is that a lot of teams would want him including the Leafs who have not closed the door on keeping him.

Who are these teams, though? If there are a lot of teams that would want him, it shouldn't be hard to come up with some examples. What teams have a hole for a 2nd pair RD and have the ability to take on Zaitsev's contract without sending money out? If there are this many teams that would be interested in him, it shouldn't be hard to find a team that fits both of those.
 

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Vancouver, Colorado, Montreal the other 28 teams. If you really want my speculation.
 

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It's just funny because no one has actually provided a team that would take on Zaitsev's entire contract without sending money back or asking for a sweetener. I can think of teams that would be interested in Zaitsev (Florida, Edmonton, Anaheim and Dallas all make some sense, Florida makes the most sense to me personally), but taking Zaitsev's full salary either isn't possible or screws with their free agent plans.

Full salary IMO is only necessary if the thing they are getting back isnt a RHD.

Zaitsev + Brown + Bracco
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Pysyk + Sceviour

-zaitsev and Pysyk seem to have overstayed their respective welcomes
- Brown has had the higher full season vs Sceviour, Sceviour is more what the Leafs need in the bottom 9
- Bracco is coming off a pretty dominant AHL season but has no room on the right side with the Leafs anytime soon
 
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Stop pretending that the Leafs situation with the cap and how Zaitsev wanting out now does not make it a circus ride this summer. This is far from being a normal off season man and it will be very interesting to watch. This is why this is getting so much attention
Just to the media types who want to hype it up and the sheep who follow. They will be fine
 
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Empoleon8771

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Full salary IMO is only necessary if the thing they are getting back isnt a RHD.

Zaitsev + Brown + Bracco
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Pysyk + Sceviour

-zaitsev and Pysyk seem to have overstayed their respective welcomes
- Brown has had the higher full season vs Sceviour, Sceviour is more what the Leafs need in the bottom 9
- Bracco is coming off a pretty dominant AHL season but has no room on the right side with the Leafs anytime soon

This is a completely reasonable deal and similar to the Zaitsev, Brown and Bracco for Russell and a 2nd proposal from yesterday. That's the kind of move that I think Zaitsev gets traded in, so this is really reasonable to me. Something around Zaitsev+ for Pysyk+ seems like a really good base for a trade.
 

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Fair assessment from the Jets point of view. What's interesting about this is most know Trouba wants out but the Jets also need to replace him on RD. Teams that are interested want to add a RD using other parts. How do the Jets trade Trouba and get the RD they need? Might require a 3 way trade.

Maybe, maybe not.

Myers is a worse case backup plan, he’s stated multi times how happy his family is here and he wants to stay.....to-date no contract talks as per Myers himself. Replacing Myers we have options within, keep in mind he played bottom pairing only.

Trouba if traded creates a need without doubt. Myers is an option. Trading Connor/Ehlers is an option for a top 4 RHD.

Three way trade maybe.

Jets have two needs, good 2C and top 4 RHD to replace Trouba if he’s traded.

The return on Trouba is more likely to fill the 2C need vs the top 4 RHD need imo which is fine.

I could see Trouba traded for 2C or top 4 RHD bridge solution & futures or all futures package. Depending on the suiters & offers.
 

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The thing about Trouba being traded. The Jets would likely have to give permission to the Leafs to talk contract. Seems difficult to me since he has been bridging and going to an arbitrator’s with the Jets. If reports are correct he is seeking 7M perJets defenceman Jacob Trouba comments on his future in Winnipeg - Sportsnet.ca

Then this deal becomes doubly difficult given the Leafs cap crunch. Hard to see this happening before Marner is even signed. Or what happens to Marner, given an offer sheet and June 26 he is going shopping.
 

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They will no doubt be in denial. But the facts are the facts. Zaitsev and a plethora of stabilizing figures in the organization have left. It seems that since Lou left, it went from order to disorder overnight. Agreed, something is odd happening over there.

That's the thing I want to know. Why does Zaitsev want to leave? Obviously he was happy when he signed for 7 years. What a difference a year has made. When Lou left, he set the table for Dubas, the team had a tonne of cap space, and now in just a year. The capspace is gone, no stability in the Head Coach, players want to leave, the head scout and scouts(Hunter, Hofford) and coaches(DJ Smith and Pierre Greco) have left. There is an air of disarray in what is happening there now. And as you put it so correctly Skinny. There is more Chaos to come going into the off season.

I really don't understand your logic lol.

Hunter lost out on the GM job. He and Hofford are tied at the hip.

DJ Smith? He got a head coaching job....

Pierre Greco? He went from a Marlies goaltending coach to an NHL goaltending coach....

What capspace did Dubas waste? He signed John Tavares. The problem is with dead contracts that Lou signed, including Zaitsev. I suppose if you want to argue some slight overpayment to Nylander then sure...
 

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The term is the problem and it's not a small problem. If the Leafs want to unload that contract, it will require creativity and no GM is going to give the Leafs the value they want for Zaitsev. They will circle around like Vultures and wait for the situation to work in their favor. If it don't work, they certainly have options in the UFA market and can find someone similar on a lesser term and cap hit vs Zaitsev.

The term is the problem, yep. I acknowledged that.

It will require some degree of creativity, but really it's just going to need a team far from the cap and/or in desperate need of a D. If their cap weren't an issue, Edmonton would be an example of the latter. Currently the Sens are an example of the former and the Coyotes have done this saving a team from a bad contract thing several times already.

With the cap problems Toronto is having and Kapanen/Johnsson/Marner all needing to be re-signed and not taking discounts, I don't see why they would be looking for value for Zaitsev. At this point, it helps them out as much as it helps anyone else to move Zaitsev out. Pending Gardiner's fate, Zaitsev became like their four or fifth best D after Muzzin came on and their two best prospects are D.

Teams have had the option to circle like vultures before and, like I said, there's always a team near the cap floor or in desperation mode willing to help out. I don't know what UFA market you're thinking of either. The NHL one is full of huge overpays and is where every players waits to make their big pay day. With the cap between 80 and 85 mil, 4.5 for a bottom 3 D with offensive upside really isn't hard to deal with for any team not in cap hell. Even on a 5 year term.
 

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Capfriendly.com is an awesome website. It's doesn't take rocket science or the media to realize the situation. But hey, continue on thinking all the challenges are easy to work around
It sure is. In fact, the internet is an excellent medium. Together with newspapers, radio and TV the media are eveywhere. Sorry, what challenges?
 

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He played on top4 for Toronto and did it better vs Bruins, than Columbus superstar defensmen and especially Slavin and others from Carolina...

So you are suggesting he is better than Jones, Werenski and Slavin? Good grief Toronto has the most cluelss hockey fans alive. You cant get out of your own way.
 

The Winter Soldier

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I really don't understand your logic lol.

Hunter lost out on the GM job. He and Hofford are tied at the hip.

DJ Smith? He got a head coaching job....

Pierre Greco? He went from a Marlies goaltending coach to an NHL goaltending coach....

What capspace did Dubas waste? He signed John Tavares. The problem is with dead contracts that Lou signed, including Zaitsev. I suppose if you want to argue some slight overpayment to Nylander then sure...
-Hunter would not have left if Lou was rehired.
-Hofford would not have left if Hunter did not leave
-DJ Smith may have left because he knows Keefe is Dubas' guy
-Lou hired Greco, again when Lou was in charge there was stability
-Zaitsev committed to 7 years when Lou was in charge. Now he wants out.

Ignore, be in denial, but there is something happening for Zaitsev to want out. We can only guess. But he signed 7 years under Babcock, DJ Smith, and Lou. Now he wants to leave? I am with Skinny here. Something may be going on here?
 

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That's the thing I want to know. Why does Zaitsev want to leave? Obviously he was happy when he signed for 7 years. What a difference a year has made. When Lou left, he set the table for Dubas, the team had a tonne of cap space, and now in just a year. The capspace is gone, no stability in the Head Coach, players want to leave, the head scout and scouts(Hunter, Hofford) and coaches(DJ Smith and Pierre Greco) have left. There is an air of disarray in what is happening there now. And as you put it so correctly Skinny. There is more Chaos to come going into the off season.
Oh my God....LOL.
Lou left the table set?? The Marleau and Zaitsev's contracts are Lou's.

Scouts leaving? Ya, Hunter was up for GM and didn't get, so he pursued other employment.

Coaches leaving? Jesus man...Smith was offered a head coaching position...of course he left.

Players wanting to leave? plural? Ya...Zaitsev.

I get this is your wet dream scenario...but you gotta calm down a little.
 
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