Player Discussion: Nikita Kucherov - Part 3
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Kucherov has 3 of the highest 6 scoring seasons by a Russian player. Check this out:
www.quanthockey.com
He also has the top 3 assist totals by a Russian player in NHL history.
Wild stuff. Definitely making a strong case for #2 all time. Between him and Malkin, but Kuch seems to have the inside track.
Russian NHL Players ‑ Single Season Records
Single season records for Russian NHL players. Most points, goals, assists, etc. by Russian NHL players in a single NHL season.
www.quanthockey.com
He also has the top 3 assist totals by a Russian player in NHL history.
Wild stuff. Definitely making a strong case for #2 all time. Between him and Malkin, but Kuch seems to have the inside track.
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I've felt for a while that Kucherov will go down in history somewhere around Jagr's level, if not as well appreciated in all circles. IMO, he is well on his way to surpassing the Sakic/Yzerman/Forsberg tier.
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Still a chance that Kucherov joins McDavid in the 100 assist club this season.
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The league will suspend Kucherov until the playoffs for his hit last night, so he can't win the ARt Ross Trophy. Then the hfboards will claim we are cheating a using LTIR and the Tampa Tax loophole cheat codes. Well Played Kucherov.
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Apparently the Canadians also have a hate boner for us. Saw a video saying Kuch should get a suspension for a maybe 2-minute boarding maybe correct no call in the game last night.
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I think they just still hate Kucherov for the 2021 press conference.
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DrMartinVanNostrand
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We've gotta create a new standard - call it the Kucherov Standard - for being able to properly compare expectations with Kucherov to the expectations of every other hockey player. It's hilarious how this seems to work with him.
Kucherov has a hip surgery that keeps players away from NHL game action for 5-7 months or so - a timeline that had been established by previous players who had received the same operation and then took that long to return to the ice...guys like David Pastrnak and Tyler Seguin, so not nobodies - Kucherov managed to return in 4.5 months because the playoffs were beginning (and very clearly was not skating anywhere near his usual level) and people bitched for two solid months before that and ever since then as well that he could've played sooner and that it was pure cap bullshit on the Lightning's part and that alone.
Now, it's either "yeah, he's leading the league in empty net points, so stick an asterisk on that" (God we love our *'s around these parts) - apparently Kucherov is the only NHL player who has tried to get empty net goals or assists, it's never been a tactic of NHL coaches to get guys with 2 goals on the ice to give them a chance at the hat trick - or when it's pointed out that Kucherov has the highest PPG against "tough competition", then the almost-impossible-to-prove argument pops up about "but what about when he played them, how were they faring then?", a kind of parsing of details into a player's statistics that has literally never been done in the history of statistical arguments.
It's hysterical what people try to hold Kucherov to. And then they get salty back in return when Kucherov taunts back with his "#1 bullshit" retorts...you motherf-ckers deserve every bit of those taunts, you're lucky Kucherov doesn't do more of that.
(EDIT: Btw, not for nothing, but the three worst teams in the NHL are all in the West...Chicago, San Jose, and Anaheim. Kucherov got to play those teams a combined six times. MacKinnon and McDavid have gotten to play them, what, 9-12 times or whatever? Makes a difference too. Somehow that never gets mentioned though.)
Kucherov has a hip surgery that keeps players away from NHL game action for 5-7 months or so - a timeline that had been established by previous players who had received the same operation and then took that long to return to the ice...guys like David Pastrnak and Tyler Seguin, so not nobodies - Kucherov managed to return in 4.5 months because the playoffs were beginning (and very clearly was not skating anywhere near his usual level) and people bitched for two solid months before that and ever since then as well that he could've played sooner and that it was pure cap bullshit on the Lightning's part and that alone.
Now, it's either "yeah, he's leading the league in empty net points, so stick an asterisk on that" (God we love our *'s around these parts) - apparently Kucherov is the only NHL player who has tried to get empty net goals or assists, it's never been a tactic of NHL coaches to get guys with 2 goals on the ice to give them a chance at the hat trick - or when it's pointed out that Kucherov has the highest PPG against "tough competition", then the almost-impossible-to-prove argument pops up about "but what about when he played them, how were they faring then?", a kind of parsing of details into a player's statistics that has literally never been done in the history of statistical arguments.
It's hysterical what people try to hold Kucherov to. And then they get salty back in return when Kucherov taunts back with his "#1 bullshit" retorts...you motherf-ckers deserve every bit of those taunts, you're lucky Kucherov doesn't do more of that.
(EDIT: Btw, not for nothing, but the three worst teams in the NHL are all in the West...Chicago, San Jose, and Anaheim. Kucherov got to play those teams a combined six times. MacKinnon and McDavid have gotten to play them, what, 9-12 times or whatever? Makes a difference too. Somehow that never gets mentioned though.)
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Is the hockey world finally realizing what we have known for years?
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Crazy thought though: Once Kuch retires (leaves) that’s very likely the best hockey we will ever have seen an individual wearing our colors play. Ever.
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Kucherov's retirement, or leaving Tampa for another team will hit hard. He's that kind of player you look forward to quite literally every single shift he's on the ice. I've never had the same feeling for any other Lightning player.
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There's always the chance we luck into a McDavid or he just comes here anyway lelz.
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Funny enough, I scrolled Twitter after reading this thread and came across this random user's tweet.
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LightningStrikes
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Remember that time some guy named Dmitri Kucherov scored on his first shift?
LightningStrikes
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It's historic in a way we almost never see it anymore. We see cap era records etc, but you rarely see a guy put up an all time best number for his position anymore, if ever. And he's DESTROYING the record. AND IT'S HIS OWN RECORD (tied).
I feel like we are still finding out just how special this player is.
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