Player Discussion: Nikita Kucherov - Part 3

[EmptyNetAssassin]

I think Kuch is well above Bure, honestly. Stylistically, yeah, it's like a very poor man's Gretzky. Most of what makes him lethal is his ability to make everyone adjust to his speed because he can see three plays at any given time.

But this is a very special player. If not for McDavid, who is a different level of special, like actual low-end Gretzky tier, Kucherov would likely be considered the best player of his generation. The resume is there, and what mainly separates him is consistency.

Kucherov is a few tiers above Bure. He has two cups and is one of the best playoff performers ever.

 

[Steazy Doo]

Someone give me a comprehensive list of reasons why Kucherov will be known as the better player over Malkin. Doesn’t matter if you belive it’s true. I need it soon

Thanks bros

 

[WADEugottaBELAKthat]

Someone give me a comprehensive list of reasons why Kucherov will be known as the better player over Malkin. Doesn’t matter if you belive it’s true. I need it soon

Thanks bros

Chat GDP your own questions.

 

[EmptyNetAssassin]

Someone give me a comprehensive list of reasons why Kucherov will be known as the better player over Malkin. Doesn’t matter if you belive it’s true. I need it soon

Thanks bros

If he isn't ranked better it is number one b******t/

 

[TheDaysOf 04]

Someone give me a comprehensive list of reasons why Kucherov will be known as the better player over Malkin. Doesn’t matter if you belive it’s true. I need it soon

Thanks bros

Here's the comparison for both players 674 games into their NHL careers, the number Kucherov is at now:

Kucherov	Malkin
296 goals	307 goals
483 assists	486 assists
779 points	793 points

Kucherov	Malkin
	1 Conn Smythe
	1 Calder Trophy
1 Art Ross Tophy	2 Art Ross Trophies
1 Ted Lindsey Trophy	1 Ted Lindsey Trophy
1 Hart Trophy	1 Hart Trophy
2 Stanley Cups	2 Stanley Cups

Both are pretty similar. Malkin goes on to win a 3rd cup, but his prime years are over. Kucherov can surpass him if he stays dominant longer.

 

[TheDaysOf 04]

 

[Sky04]

Here's the comparison for both players 674 games into their NHL careers, the number Kucherov is at now:

Kucherov	Malkin
296 goals	307 goals
483 assists	486 assists
779 points	793 points

Kucherov	Malkin
	1 Conn Smythe
	1 Calder Trophy
1 Art Ross Tophy	2 Art Ross Trophies
1 Ted Lindsey Trophy	1 Ted Lindsey Trophy
1 Hart Trophy	1 Hart Trophy
2 Stanley Cups	2 Stanley Cups

Both are pretty similar. Malkin goes on to win a 3rd cup, but his prime years are over. Kucherov can surpass him if he stays dominant longer.

Malkin's numbers were in a lower scoring environment so I'd say he has a comfortable lead during their first ~700 games, Kuch would need some strong seasons after 33 though as Malkin was pretty productive his first couple seasons after 30 as well, should have a good chance since his playstyle and size won't result in as many injuries.

It's not a slight though, who would've thought we'd get a guy comparable to Malkin in the 2nd round? especially when we pretty much got killed by him his entire prime.

 

[DFC]

Malkin's numbers were in a lower scoring environment so I'd say he has a comfortable lead during their first ~700 games, Kuch would need some strong seasons after 33 though as Malkin was pretty productive his first couple seasons after 30 as well, should have a good chance since his playstyle and size won't result in as many injuries.

It's not a slight though, who would've thought we'd get a guy comparable to Malkin in the 2nd round? especially when we pretty much got killed by him his entire prime.

Kuch was also, at least comparatively, a late bloomer. I think peak vs. Peak, it's pretty subjective. But Kucherov has to age really well to catch Malkin overall. If ever there was a player who looks like he will age well though...

 

[RussianGuyovich]

Kucherov would have better numbers if he wasn’t the the opposing teams #1 MO for every game he played. But props to Malkin i wouldve thought kucherov would have had him beat in points.

 

[StammerHammer]

I think other coaches would have been giving Kuch more ice time in his early years. Thus more points and faster development.

 

[These Are The Days]

Soak the legend in while you can guys

 

[Steazy Doo]

Chat GDP your own questions.

XDD

 

[LightningStrikes]

MacKinnon ties Kuch for the lead in points (64). Pastrnak, Panarin and McDavid are tied for 3rd and 11 points behind (53).

 

[LightningStrikes]

 

[Zwui21]

Only bright light on this team this season. What a player, if the players around him were playing to their usual standard he'd probably be at 85 points right now

 

[Lightning1995]

Poor guy is playing out of his mind while his talents are being wasted

 

[Hoek]

Can't imagine how frustrated he must be. Can tell he worked his ass off this past off-season to play like this and everyone else just f***ing lollygagged.

 

[Stammertime91]

Can't imagine how frustrated he must be. Can tell he worked his ass off this past off-season to play like this and everyone else just f***ing lollygagged.

He even takes entire seasons off so others can get more reps in, still doesn't work.

 

[RussianGuyovich]

He rules, OP

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Wasting elite Kucherov is unforgivable. At least this is the Lightning and not the Sharks. Cups last forever. And we can watch YouTube highlights and Cup DVDs to wipe the tears/frustration away.

 

[TheDaysOf 04]

*69 points

The other 10: Lecavalier, St. Louis, Stamkos, Point, Richards, Bradley, Hedman, Prospal, Stillman, Johnson

 

[FinnLightning26]

*69 points

The other 10: Lecavalier, St. Louis, Stamkos, Point, Richards, Bradley, Hedman, Prospal, Stillman, Johnson

Obligatory nice

 

[TheDaysOf 04]

 

[TheDaysOf 04]

Darren Dreger on TSN:

"Every time I watch the Tampa Bay Lightning play I'm reminded how we're failing as a network because we're not talking about this guy enough."

 

[TheDaysOf 04]

Nikita Kucherov (0-3—3) reached the 500-assist milestone in his career and became the fourth player in Lightning history to reach the mark, joining Martin St. Louis (588), Steven Stamkos (564) and Victor Hedman(544).