Nikita Kucherov is the clear favorite for the Art Ross Trophy

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Nathaniel Skywalker

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Nope. What this year is showing is that the only difference between crosby n mcdavids hart ross count is health. Crosby dominated the league at 23-26 as well. Now crosby post 26 went on to win b2b playoff mvps cups 3 time hart finalist etc. We shall see how mcdavid exists his prime but it's not looking good. A good start would be to not be outscored by JT miller. Let's see....
 

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Nope. What this year is showing is that the only difference between crosby n mcdavids hart ross count is health. Crosby dominated the league at 23-26 as well. Now crosby post 26 went on to win b2b playoff mvps cups 3 time hart finalist etc. We shall see how mcdavid exists his prime but it's not looking good. A good start would be to not be outscored by JT miller. Let's see....
You must see McDavid in your dreams. Its a weird obsession.
 

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Nope. What this year is showing is that the only difference between crosby n mcdavids hart ross count is health. Crosby dominated the league at 23-26 as well. Now crosby post 26 went on to win b2b playoff mvps cups 3 time hart finalist etc. We shall see how mcdavid exists his prime but it's not looking good. A good start would be to not be outscored by JT miller. Let's see....

I told you from the beginning of the season that I would be disappointed if McDavid didn't scoop the Art Ross. 4 in a row and 6 already would be sublime. You're waiting for this undetermined moment in the future where I sheepishly admit disappointment when I already outlined how I would be probably over the summer.

On the other hand, I'm balancing that mild disappointment with the all-around effort that he and the Oilers as a team are giving right now. It's a little hard to work up the effort for this as the Oilers head into tonight's game on a 12 game winning streak, while yielding just 15 goals in their past 10 which includes 3 OT periods, and just 21 goals overall during the streak.

It's also not out of the realm of possibility for McDavid to go supernova, particuarly with all those games in hand that won't be made up for another two months. I can concede that Kucherov and MacKinnon are going to need to stop averaging 1.8+ PPG like they have been for the past 35 or so games for him to make up this gap.

I'm not going to be exactly upset if he finishes third in the race, but adds the Cup and Conn Smythe to his hardware cabinet 5 months from now.
 

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Kuch and Mack are really lighting it up. MacKinnon winning an Art Ross would catapult him into first ballot HHOF territory.

I was 100 % expecting McDavid to close the gap and leave this duo in the dust when he got healthy but dude's ground into a halt, probably going to have a lone assist against the Flames tonight. Those of you watching EDM games lately, does he look 100 %, is it bad puck luck or is he doing dirty work that's conducive to winning but not stuffing the score sheet? Shall I start hammering u1.5 points for him until further notice?
 
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Those of you watching EDM games lately, does he look 100 %, is it bad puck luck or is he doing dirty work that's conducive to winning but not stuffing the score sheet? Shall I start hammering u1.5 points for him until further notice?
Hes playing great hockey and getting a little unlucky with linemates finishing. Has also had 3 points taken off the board during this streak due to questionable GI and offside calls. The only critique of McDavids game this year is he isn't shooting as well as he has in the previous 2 seasons.
 

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Hes playing great hockey and getting a little unlucky with linemates finishing. Has also had 3 points taken off the board during this streak due to questionable GI and offside calls. The only critique of McDavids game this year is he isn't shooting as well as he has in the previous 2 seasons.

Goalies caught onto the five hole thing maybe? Not long ago he had a streak of 38 points in 18 games right after he got healthy again so I don’t think it’s unreasonable to believe he starts piling up points again soon.
 

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Kuch and Mack are really lighting it up. MacKinnon winning an Art Ross would catapult him into first ballot HHOF territory.

I was 100 % expecting McDavid to close the gap and leave this duo in the dust when he got healthy but dude's ground into a halt, probably going to have a lone assist against the Flames tonight. Those of you watching EDM games lately, does he look 100 %, is it bad puck luck or is he doing dirty work that's conducive to winning but not stuffing the score sheet? Shall I start hammering u1.5 points for him until further notice?
Well if he goes on a 6 game heater with his games in hand and does 2-3ppg...He would be right there with Kuch and MacKs great seasons all the while having a down season.

He's been a bit snake bitten. Feels like the gates will burst open soon.
 

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Goalies caught onto the five hole thing maybe? Not long ago he had a streak of 38 points in 18 games right after he got healthy again so I don’t think it’s unreasonable to believe he starts piling up points again soon.
That was a crazy ride. It's as if he had a revelation of hey what if I just start to pummel the five hole and it seemed like he exploited it to the max. Then what, the goalies collectively just plugged that leak and this season McDavid is back to being merely a good goal scorer? I wonder if he's pondering hard on the next thing to try and exploit. Or maybe it was a one season thing, trying his best to check the Rocket Richard Trophy box in his list and now he's onto something else. I'd love a Mulletman analysis on this! :D
 
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Nope. What this year is showing is that the only difference between crosby n mcdavids hart ross count is health. Crosby dominated the league at 23-26 as well. Now crosby post 26 went on to win b2b playoff mvps cups 3 time hart finalist etc. We shall see how mcdavid exists his prime but it's not looking good. A good start would be to not be outscored by JT miller. Let's see....
This is a prime example on how so many people argue these days, especially on social media...pure inductive reasoning. Wait until something happens that loosely supports your predetermined conclusion and claim your right... all the while ignoring the overwhelming evidence against your argument.
 

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As weird as it sounds - I've never really given Kucherov a fair shake.

When he burst on the scene was the time I was least engaged with the NHL, and I've always just looked at him from a distance as a "really good player".

Can anybody define what he does so well to allow him to be such a dynamic player and prolific scorer?

He’s in some ways a poor man’s Gretzky - obviously nowhere near as dominant, but stylistically there’s some resemblance there. His physical skills aren’t anything special by NHL standards, but his hockey IQ is among the best the game has ever seen and because of it he can make plays that other players can’t even imagine.

He’s always been a good shooter, but until this season he’s predominantly been a pass-first player, to the point that Lightning fans and even his own coaches wished he would be a little less selfless and shoot the puck more. This year, because the Lightning lost a lot of secondary scoring the past couple offseasons, he’s finally taken it upon himself to be more of a goal scorer which has taken his game to an even higher level.

What he will really be remembered for is what he’s done in the postseason. He was already the top playoff scorer of the past decade *before* his back-to-back 30+ point postseasons put him in a class with only himself, Gretzky, and Lemieux.
 

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Hes playing great hockey and getting a little unlucky with linemates finishing. Has also had 3 points taken off the board during this streak due to questionable GI and offside calls. The only critique of McDavids game this year is he isn't shooting as well as he has in the previous 2 seasons.

The not-shooting thing has been frustrating to watch. Someone needs to remind him he scored 60 last year!
 
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He’s in some ways a poor man’s Gretzky - obviously nowhere near as dominant, but stylistically there’s some resemblance there. His physical skills aren’t anything special by NHL standards, but his hockey IQ is among the best the game has ever seen and because of it he can make plays that other players can’t even imagine.

He’s always been a good shooter, but until this season he’s predominantly been a pass-first player, to the point that Lightning fans and even his own coaches wished he would be a little less selfless and shoot the puck more. This year, because the Lightning lost a lot of secondary scoring the past couple offseasons, he’s finally taken it upon himself to be more of a goal scorer which has taken his game to an even higher level.

What he will really be remembered for is what he’s done in the postseason. He was already the top playoff scorer of the past decade *before* his back-to-back 30+ point postseasons put him in a class with only himself, Gretzky, and Lemieux.
He is playing 4D chess out there. It is pretty amazing.
 

AndreRoy

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f*** your nostaliga

Mackinnon if after this year he wins the ross+hart+lindsay is a greater player all time then the below

Forsberg
Sakic
Yzerman
Messier
Esposito
Malkin
Lindros
Datsyuk
Ferderov

Espo continues to be criminally underrated by the younger crowd here. The guy shattered the NHL records for goals and points in a season, setting marks that stood for over a decade until some guy named Wayne Gretzky finally surpassed them, and he retired as the second-leading scorer of all time behind Gordie Howe. MacK is nowhere near Esposito’s level and never will be.

(There are others on that list I take issue with as well, but the one I’ve addressed is by far the most absurd.)
 

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I believe 4.

One assist was taken away.
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Jk, he only should have had the 4 tbh.
 

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Nope. What this year is showing is that the only difference between crosby n mcdavids hart ross count is health. Crosby dominated the league at 23-26 as well. Now crosby post 26 went on to win b2b playoff mvps cups 3 time hart finalist etc. We shall see how mcdavid exists his prime but it's not looking good. A good start would be to not be outscored by JT miller. Let's see....
Guess its better than getting beat for the art ross by jamie benn
 
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Lacking a bit of finish but stubbornly passing the puck on A+ grades looks.

I don’t think scoring goal motivate him as much as making plays.
 
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