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Nick Robertson, what do you think about this Kid ?

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I would trade Sandin before I trade Robertson.

The problem with Sandin is that he's about 5'10 and isn't very fast. As a d-man if your not overly big, you need to be fast.

Sure, his game may work in the AHL or against non-mature players, but, I don't think Sandin is suited for the chel.
 
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Fogelhund said:
I’d move Amirov no problem, in the right deal. Robertson I’d move too, but it would have to be a pretty special player coming the other way. Comtois is a guy I’d move Robertson for.

Robertson needs a full season more in the AHL IMO. He’s got a great shot, but I believe could benefit from rounding out his game and decision making away from the spotlight. There is nothing wrong with over ripening your guys, and in the end, putting them in the best position to succeed.
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Sure, why keep a kid who looks to be a Hyman clone. What do we need a player like that....

Look any player can be had if the piece coming back is that special. Issue is two fold:

Expansion Draft
Cap

I’d say give it another year before we push some big chips into the pot.
 
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Funk21 said:
Sure, why keep a kid who looks to be a Hyman clone. What do we need a player like that....

Look any player can be had if the piece coming back is that special. Issue is two fold:

Expansion Draft
Cap

I’d say give it another year before we push some big chips into the pot.
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I'd absolutely wait until a later date. The only time I'd consider moving a grade A prospect is if it seemed this is the last shot with the present core, and that is still a couple of years away.
 
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Funk21 said:
Sure, why keep a kid who looks to be a Hyman clone. What do we need a player like that....

Look any player can be had if the piece coming back is that special. Issue is two fold:

Expansion Draft
Cap

I’d say give it another year before we push some big chips into the pot.
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Hyman clone? I don’t see that type of player at all.
 
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justloveleafs said:
To me ? Freddy was really good for us For quite some time.

But the groin for a goaltender? Lets ask poor Ian Scott, we had a superstar lined up there.

Voodoo? Call it what you want. I don't know why any parent would want their child to go into this territory.

Freddy was darn good to me, but it was two to three years ago.
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What we need is a guy whose groin will hold up, and we will go hard and possibly sip on some cheap champ.

Over and out guys, gotta work in the morning

The wrist shots on guys in the NHL now, would RIP OUT, an Echl goaltender first period imho.

They are insane. The fallout? NHL goalies, specially during covid quarantine procedures.

I always liked Reimer. I always like Andersen. But heh, I loved Mcilhenney. Can we get him
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Budz said:
Hyman clone? I don’t see that type of player at all.
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Really, two hundred foot game, high motor, good to high hockey IQ. Likely has higher high end skill. You don’t trade cost controlled high skill level players unless it’s for a unicorn and most of the players being thrown in proposals are 1 to 1.5 years away from UFA and they are certainly not players I would sell the farm for.
 
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Snipes 29 said:
Dubass let him go brought up Sparks stupid stupid move Who picked up McIlhaney TAMPA BAY
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It was the right move at the time. Sparks had a good season in the A and was seemingly ready for the next step. Hindsight is 20/20.
 
Why are we talking about a 37 year old goalie putting up .880 and over 3 GAA on the best team in the league?
 
Korg said:
I hope we don't burn a year of his ELC with a pointless callup like we did with Sandin. It will be much more valuable to have him at 0.793 AAV in 2023-24 than it will to have him on the roster this year.
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100% agree. Looks like the OHL is p***y footing around to get going. If he can stay in the AHL, that is exactly where he needs to be right now
 
Bfantz said:
Stars fan here , is Robertson touchable ?
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For most fans I believe, they would want to keep him. I would think management perspective is no different. ELC scoring left winger with loads of work ethic and dedication. Skill set at the Nhl level still needs to develop.
Seems like a player you would keep on potential projections and cap cost to look at him is nothing. All plus stuff from my personal outlook on him. I wouldn’t move him.
Strictly fan perspective. I want him staying a leaf for a long time. He’s earned that. Looks pretty promising as a prospect.
 
Wafflewhipper said:
For most fans I believe, they would want to keep him. I would think management perspective is no different. ELC scoring left winger with loads of work ethic and dedication. Skill set at the Nhl level still needs to develop.
Seems like a player you would keep on potential projections and cap cost to look at him is nothing. All plus stuff from my personal outlook on him. I wouldn’t move him.
Strictly fan perspective. I want him staying a leaf for a long time. He’s earned that. Looks pretty promising as a prospect.
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Fair enough . I would love to have him in Dallas playing with his brother who is having a great rookie season . I do believe there could be a win win trade between stars and leafs though . Stars need to get better offensively , leafs need to get better defensively IMO.
 
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Nick Robertson 86 points in 46 games - 1.87 pt/game (OHL 2019-20)
Connor Brown 128 points in 68 games - 1.88 pt/game (OHL 2013-14)
Jeremy Bracco 51 points in 27 games - 1.89 pt/game (OHL 2016-17)

How many top scorers in the minors come and go? Some of these guys think they're scoring prowess will continue at the NHL level and end up playing for the KalPa Kuopio.
And others will commit to defense and establish an NHL career. Robertson was definitely a steal. The question should always be, if you or your line doesn't score do you help
your team win? Commitment to defense and keeping the opposition under unrelenting pressure is key. Think he'll be someone constantly in the opponent's face and hopefully
gets use to the NHL level.
 
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Bfantz said:
Fair enough . I would love to have him in Dallas playing with his brother who is having a great rookie season . I do believe there could be a win win trade between stars and leafs though . Stars need to get better offensively , leafs need to get better defensively IMO.
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I just know Robertson can score goals because he possesses a nhl caliber shot already. He works extremely hard. On the defensive side of the game Robertson is consistently going as hard both ways. He is a solid defensive player for his age. He will for instance track everything out of the ozone (Ahl this season) and back pressure without question.
Any team would likely ask about him if they were trying to make a trade with the Leafs. He still needs development nonetheless. If it was me evaluating trading him, i would rate his value presently as not meeting future value. I wouldn’t be moving him at present value in a nutshell.
The positives of keeping him out weight trading him. That’s of course just guessing what his value is. Obviously I don’t know and can only guess like usual as a fan
 
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Wafflewhipper said:
I just know Robertson can score goals because he possesses a nhl caliber shot already. He works extremely hard. On the defensive side of the game Robertson is consistently going as hard both ways. He is a solid defensive player for his age. He will for instance track everything out of the ozone (Ahl this season) and back pressure without question.
Any team would likely ask about him if they were trying to make a trade with the Leafs. He still needs development nonetheless. If it was me evaluating trading him, i would rate his value presently as not meeting future value. I wouldn’t be moving him at present value in a nutshell.
The positives of keeping him out weight trading him. That’s of course just guessing what his value is. Obviously I don’t know and can only guess like usual as a fan
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I feel like his value is high right now , it could get higher but it could also drop significantly. If he’s anything like his brother though , he will barely blink making the jump to the nhl . Do the leafs really need more goal scorers for the future right now though ? I feel like they are in a cup window right now and they need to take advantage of Mathews and marner while they are at there peak .
 
moon111 said:
Nick Robertson 86 points in 46 games - 1.87 pt/game (OHL 2019-20)
Connor Brown 128 points in 68 games - 1.88 pt/game (OHL 2013-14)
Jeremy Bracco 51 points in 27 games - 1.89 pt/game (OHL 2016-17)

How many top scorers in the minors come and go? Some of these guys think they're scoring prowess will continue at the NHL level and end up playing for the KalPa Kuopio.
And others will commit to defense and establish an NHL career. Robertson was definitely a steal. The question should always be, if you or your line doesn't score do you help
your team win? Commitment to defense and keeping the opposition under unrelenting pressure is key. Think he'll be someone constantly in the opponent's face and hopefully
gets use to the NHL level.
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you raise some good points. I usually do not put much stock into Jr. Pts totals TBH. The one thing that separates Nick from Brown and Bracco is the historic rate he was able to put the puck in the net. Not his point totals. Of course Connor and Jeremy had great Jr careers/numbers. But a handful of those Pts were undoubtingly secondary pts given they were not the trigger men on their respective teams. Without any way to track how many of the assists were primary or secondary, lets pretend half of the assists for each player were primary and half were secondary for arguments sake. Add half of their assists from each of those years to their goal totals and we can get a rough estimate on Primary pts/game

Nick: 55G + 15.5A / 46 GP = *1.53 Primary pts/game

Connor: 45G + 41.5A / 68 GP = *1.27 Primary pts/game

Jeremy: 17G + 17A / 27 GP = *1.26 Primary Pts/game

Its obviously not a perfect measurement because we cannot definitively determine primary assist vs. Secondary, but my argument is Nick's ability to put the puck in the net is elite. Neither Connor or Jeremy had that.
 
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not to mention:

only 3 CHL players under the age of 19 years old have been able to match that goal scoring rate in the last 38 years; Lindros, Sakic, and Mario.

only 2 OHL players under the age of 19 have scored at over 1goal/game in the last 20 years; Tavares, and Kane.

This kid has more going for him than Connor Brown and Jeremy Bracco in their D+1/2 seasons.

that's not to say he could fizzle out in the show. I have long said after watching him this year in the AHL, he needs to get stronger on his skates. He loses far too many puck battles. I expect that to improve over time, but his ability to rip the biscuit is elite. That is not an over reaction or hyperbole. The above stats indicate such
 
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