Byron Bitz
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Realistically his value is probably a 2nd or a young roster player with middle 6 upside. I think he will be a top 6 player and probably a 30/30 guy in his prime, he has an amazing shot and is good offensively just so badly misused.What would Toronto want for him?
Zack Hyman is a heck of a hockey player. That said, he scored 50 goals because of who he plays with. He's more like a 25-30 guy without McDavid. But he does everything. Defense, forecheck, makes space, sets picks for CM. He's the perfect linemate for him and I hate that you guys let him go there.I wouldn't say it's impossible, maybe unlikely but stranger things have happened. Wouldn't have pegged Hyman as a 50-goal scorer either, going into last season.
Having an older brother who's racked up 100pts in a season doesn't hurt Nick's profile, that's for sure.
If Dallas can find a way to bring him over on a cheap one-for-one deal, I'd be all for it.
Zack Hyman is a heck of a hockey player. That said, he scored 50 goals because of who he plays with. He's more like a 25-30 guy without McDavid. But he does everything. Defense, forecheck, makes space, sets picks for CM. He's the perfect linemate for him and I hate that you guys let him go there.
Yeah and he does all the dirty work McDavid sucks at. He gets the puck out of their end. I think he's a really good player. Fill my roster with players like him and I'll win the cup regularly.<----------Not a Leafs fan, but I get your point. Hyman obviously a product of McJesus but he's still banging those loose pucks in from three feet out.
And trading Nick Robertson is big how exactly?Isn't it time to ever try to do something big for this club?
Because it could be a push to try to win now instead of constant wait and see.And trading Nick Robertson is big how exactly?
If that is the ask, I don't see it happening. Maybe that's why it hasn't.A 2nd and a 4th
Zach Hyman, Brayden Point and Brock Boeser are all fine players who led their teams in goals this season but it would be hard to find anyone that thought Hyman was better than McDavid, Point was better than Kucherov and Boeser was better than Hughes.Well by saying he's a future 30 goal scorer you're saying he is since 13 teams didn't have a 30 goal scorer.
Again, I said almost half the time the leading goal scorer is the best player. There are tons of examples of that.Zach Hyman, Brayden Point and Brock Boeser are all fine players who led their teams in goals this season but it would be hard to find anyone that thought Hyman was better than McDavid, Point was better than Kucherov and Boeser was better than Hughes.
Most players his size don't have his release. He averaged 11 mins and change while playing 56 games while scoring 14 goals in his first "full" year. He paced near 20 under those circumstances with the limited playing time had. The Leafs will regret letting this guy go if they honor his trade request. Feel free to quote me.He did have PP time. That's not true. I figure he could be better than 14 goals too. Just not 30. Connor McDavid barely scored 30 goals. Tkachuk, Hughes, Jason Robertson, Zibenajad ect didn't score 30 goals. How many players his size have scored 30 over the last 3 seasons? We're talking 2 guys in Gaudreau and Debrincat and they haven't done it every year.
I disagree strongly. I don't think you'll ever see this player score 30. I just think that's silly. Caufield has a much better shot and hasn't scored 30. I don't think this is one that will bite the Leafs. Hyman was that one.Most players his size don't have his release. He averaged 11 mins and change while playing 56 games while scoring 14 goals in his first "full" year. He paced near 20 under those circumstances with the limited playing time had. The Leafs will regret letting this guy go if they honor his trade request. Feel free to quote me.
Its the Leafs. We have multiple ones that bite us in the arseI disagree strongly. I don't think you'll ever see this player score 30. I just think that's silly. Caufield has a much better shot and hasn't scored 30. I don't think this is one that will bite the Leafs. Hyman was that one.
Nothing player?11 pages for this nothing player
Robertson is talented but he obviously isnt as impactful or as valuable as those guysNothing player?
Last year he was 8th in 5v5 goals/60 among LWs and 12th in 5v5 points/60, he produced like a true first line player in limited minutes. He was ahead of other top LWs like Kaprizov, Matthew Tkachuk, Kyle Connor, Matt Boldy, and his own brother in both categories, despite playing with way worse linemates than those guys (his most common linemates being Domi, Jarnkrok, and Holmberg).
Why not? Yeah, he'd get tougher opponents, but give him a legit playmaking 1C and he'd be filling the net.Robertson is talented but he obviously isnt as impactful or as valuable as those guys
He had a lot of nice short stretches where he would score points, but given a bigger role vs higher tier competition not likely he is that high for 5v5 production
He does have the ability to be a 60-70 pt top line player, but it doesnt seem like toronto will develop him into that
Berube should have robertson and nylander on a line together to optimize our offense
Based on what Zach Benson, another smallish but way more skilled forward got traded for .. Good luck.
If the Leafs run Robertson Matthews Marner, Robertson should sit and demand a trade. The 3rd wheel on that line is a career-killing position.If the Leafs are not trading Marner, I would like Robertson Matthews Marner together to start the year.
Hopefully, he fills the net and we can move him.
If the Leafs run Robertson Matthews Marner, Robertson should sit and demand a trade. The 3rd wheel on that line is a career-killing position.
And what type of roster help do you expect Nick Robertson to return? So far, he's unproven and any player that would be worthwhile coming back has to work cap wise, which the Leafs have almost none to speak of.I see other posts about draft picks, he makes zero sense to trade for picks, it should be for roster help
I would be interested in bringing him to NJ. We could use a shifty shooter that can play with pace.
Why not? Yeah, he'd get tougher opponents, but give him a legit playmaking 1C and he'd be filling the net.
I don't think it's really that obvious at all. The talent is there.