Nick Bobrov - Director of Euro Scouting dismissed by NYR

[jay from jersey]

You guys aren’t getting a douchey vibe with Drury?

Even if you forget the terrible hatchet job on JD, this whole offseason has been weird.

So Drury kinda names himself the overall scouting director in addition to already being President and GM?

A few weeks ago when I was printing out staff directories from the media guides to prep for my draft report, I noticed Clark was changed to a draft advisor or something like that. I think Steve posted about here as well.

Then a poster(s) from this very board broke the Bobrov story. It went public because Brooks stalks their tweets probably. So Drury made a decision and must have told the PR staff to delete Bobrov’s name from the directory but not make an official announcement.

I don’t know. The key people Drury worked for or with are getting fired or demoted. Too much change in a short period of time can be as catastrophic as it can be effective. To me it will just add to the disfunction.

But I’m just not a Drury guy, so my concerns are driven by a hatred that dates back to his BU days.

It’s kind of typical with a new head guy coming in. He puts his people, people he trusts into high managerial positions to oversee the day to day operations and report back to him honestly. As stated above, the core scouts doing the leg work and the people actually on the ground at the sausage factory hasn’t really changed that much

 

[Tawnos]

You guys aren’t getting a douchey vibe with Drury?

Even if you forget the terrible hatchet job on JD, this whole offseason has been weird.

So Drury kinda names himself the overall scouting director in addition to already being President and GM?

A few weeks ago when I was printing out staff directories from the media guides to prep for my draft report, I noticed Clark was changed to a draft advisor or something like that. I think Steve posted about here as well.

Then a poster(s) from this very board broke the Bobrov story. It went public because Brooks stalks their tweets probably. So Drury made a decision and must have told the PR staff to delete Bobrov’s name from the directory but not make an official announcement.

I don’t know. The key people Drury worked for or with are getting fired or demoted. Too much change in a short period of time can be as catastrophic as it can be effective. To me it will just add to the disfunction.

But I’m just not a Drury guy, so my concerns are driven by a hatred that dates back to his BU days.

In other words, no one should give any of your opinions about the Rangers weight until Drury is gone. Cool.

 

[kovazub94]

I wonder how many of these moves (e.g. Bobrov, Lindgren signing) were in the works with Gorton/Drury and were just followed through on by Drury

1. These moves could’ve been decided back when JDJG we’re here
2. These moves are to appease Dolan as in were mentioned by the owner who wanted an immediate deeper cleaning than just firing of the President and GM
3. Drury’s own moves as part of his philosophy on the way the Rangers should be run

 

[pld459666]

Much adoo about nothing.

Ho-hum move.

All of the draft data has been collected. There is NOTHING to be gained as far as additional information on draft eligible players for the 2021 draft.

 

[Ola]

Much adoo about nothing.

Ho-hum move.

All of the draft data has been collected. There is NOTHING to be gained as far as additional information on draft eligible players for the 2021 draft.

Is this really the case? Usually they hold the last organizational meeting pretty late, right?

 

[Ola]

When Clark stepped back, a lot of people seems to think Bobrov was up next. I argued that was unlikely as Drury would probably want his own guy and our European picks seemed to be just so-so under Bobrov. I didn't expect him to be let go outright, but I guess if they're looking to build a new brain trust, it makes sense.

I really hope that we start filling these positions with guys with more of a pedigree, aim really high.

It doesn’t guarantee anything, but they should aim high.

 

[Ola]

You guys aren’t getting a douchey vibe with Drury?

Even if you forget the terrible hatchet job on JD, this whole offseason has been weird.

So Drury kinda names himself the overall scouting director in addition to already being President and GM?

A few weeks ago when I was printing out staff directories from the media guides to prep for my draft report, I noticed Clark was changed to a draft advisor or something like that. I think Steve posted about here as well.

Then a poster(s) from this very board broke the Bobrov story. It went public because Brooks stalks their tweets probably. So Drury made a decision and must have told the PR staff to delete Bobrov’s name from the directory but not make an official announcement.

I don’t know. The key people Drury worked for or with are getting fired or demoted. Too much change in a short period of time can be as catastrophic as it can be effective. To me it will just add to the disfunction.

But I’m just not a Drury guy, so my concerns are driven by a hatred that dates back to his BU days.

I know very little of him, but I would definitely not rule out that there is some turmoil in the organization.

 

[Ola]

Honestly, was JD even fired, or did he let Dolan know that he would resign if Gorts was fired?

How many in the organization thinks Drury backstabbed Gorton?

I have no idea, but wouldn’t rule out the above.

 

[AlternateSideParking]

It’s kind of typical with a new head guy coming in. He puts his people, people he trusts into high managerial positions to oversee the day to day operations and report back to him honestly. As stated above, the core scouts doing the leg work and the people actually on the ground at the sausage factory hasn’t really changed that much

I get it, but Drury was with the organization and not an outsider. All these moves means he didn’t like the way the organization was run at multiple levels while he worked here.

Now, if he was a guy with a winning record and success from a previous front office job with another team, then fine, fire away.

But Drury’s first FO job was with the Rangers — hired by Gorton in 2015-16 to direct player development. Bobrov was hired by Gorton that same season. Maybe there was beef there, who knows.

Just seems like too massive an offseason overhaul in a short period for a rookie GM of a team that everyone outside New York considers trending in the right direction.

 

[AlternateSideParking]

I know very little of him, but I would definitely not rule out that there is some turmoil in the organization.

Could be mistaken but I think the Drury-Morehouse duo is one of the youngest in the league in terms of GM and scouting director. But that seems to be a league-wide trend. If there was disfunction, it’ll be harder for them to get rid of it entirely.

Firing people is a knee-jerk fix to a problem and doesn’t automatically translate to effective leadership.

Shit, look at Steinbrenner. Look at Dolan. Firings can say just as much about the person making the decision.

 

[Matz03]

The rangers have been avg since 2000 with drafting, some good picks some awful picks but the overall record is just average. I just have no issue totally revamping the scouting and player development teams to get us to be better. The organization has loads of money, why shouldn't they expect top 5 results?

 

[CLW]

Not to worry, Expert in All Areas Drury to the rescue

Until we see competent people brought in this looks like a Stalin-esque purge for little discernible reason.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

New GM comes in, people hired by the old GM are let go.

but yes, let’s all act like this is unique to the Rangers and doesn’t happen everywhere.

 

[TheGortonConspiracy]

Not to worry, Expert in All Areas Drury to the rescue

Until we see competent people brought in this looks like a Stalin-esque purge for little discernible reason.

Check the other threads, we were the softest team in the league, and played with college systems.

 

[pld459666]

Is this really the case? Usually they hold the last organizational meeting pretty late, right?

I doubt that any manager would let go of an employee without ALL documentation and records gained while that scout was part of the organization.

I have no doubt that all of Bobrov's notes on players is with the current NYR FO

 

[CLW]

Check the other threads, we were the softest team in the league, and played with college systems.

Thanks to Drury's buddy Quinn, who Drury was instrumental in bringing in by accounts.

The team is soft because half the team is ~20 years old. Once Chytil, Miller, Laf, Kakko, Jones, Kravtsov etc have become men the issue will disappear through evolution.

 

[Tawnos]

Could be mistaken but I think the Drury-Morehouse duo is one of the youngest in the league in terms of GM and scouting director. But that seems to be a league-wide trend. If there was disfunction, it’ll be harder for them to get rid of it entirely.

Firing people is a knee-jerk fix to a problem and doesn’t automatically translate to effective leadership.

Shit, look at Steinbrenner. Look at Dolan. Firings can say just as much about the person making the decision.

Yeah. Definitely don’t need to take your opinion seriously. No one here should. If there’s someone you don’t like on a personal level, and you can only assume the worst possible explanations then you should figure out how to keep your mouth shut. Look inward. You know your opinion isn’t based on anything more than your personal dislike, which makes it of no value to anyone.

By far the most likely scenario is that Drury sat down with Bobrov and asked his assessment and where he’d like to take the team, and it didn’t line up with *Drury’s* vision. That’s not knee jerk. That’s how any manager worth the title is going to operate coming into a new job. He’s probably had or will be having those meetings with literally everybody in the organization and not every single one is going to fit.

 

[bobbop]

You guys aren’t getting a douchey vibe with Drury?

Even if you forget the terrible hatchet job on JD, this whole offseason has been weird.

So Drury kinda names himself the overall scouting director in addition to already being President and GM?

A few weeks ago when I was printing out staff directories from the media guides to prep for my draft report, I noticed Clark was changed to a draft advisor or something like that. I think Steve posted about here as well.

Then a poster(s) from this very board broke the Bobrov story. It went public because Brooks stalks their tweets probably. So Drury made a decision and must have told the PR staff to delete Bobrov’s name from the directory but not make an official announcement.

I don’t know. The key people Drury worked for or with are getting fired or demoted. Too much change in a short period of time can be as catastrophic as it can be effective. To me it will just add to the disfunction.

But I’m just not a Drury guy, so my concerns are driven by a hatred that dates back to his BU days.

Actually Steve, I agree with you. I'm getting this vibe.

And I can't say I feel badly about it.

See my signature quote below.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

I find the amount of turnover to be very unsettling. Especially given that overall I was a big fan of the path the organization was on. Hope it works out...

 

[haveandare]

I find the amount of turnover to be very unsettling. Especially given that overall I was a big fan of the path the organization was on. Hope it works out...

Yesh me too. It’s a little odd that people are going out a lot and not many people coming in. Drury is going from a pretty normal development path straight into being in charge of absolutely everything himself. I hope I’m wrong but I’m not sure he’s being put in a good position to succeed like this

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Yesh me too. It’s a little odd that people are going out a lot and not many people coming in. Drury is going from a pretty normal development path straight into being in charge of absolutely everything himself. I hope I’m wrong but I’m not sure he’s being put in a good position to succeed like this

temporarily in charge of everything.

he’s going to backfill these positions. I’d rather he take his time with the process than to rush to hade them filled just to have them filled.

 

[BobMarleyNYR]

1st round: Lias, Chytil, Kravtsov, Lundkvist, Kakko
2nd round: Lindbom, Henriksson
3rd round: Ragnarsson, Tärnström
4th round: Reunanen
5th round: Själin, Pajuniemi, Aaltonen
6th round: Lakatos, Kjellberg, Edström
7th round: Virta, Ollas

Lakatos was drafted centuries ago, no? Remember the Psurnys?

Not wanting to be misunderstood, but that hasn't this team had less success in cultivating talented Slavic players than most?

 

[nyr2k2]

temporarily in charge of everything.

he’s going to backfill these positions. I’d rather he take his time with the process than to rush to hade them filled just to have them filled.

Yeah that's exactly right. There's no sense installing guys at this point with the draft approaching. I'm sure some time between the draft and the start of next season some of these positions will be filled.

Lakatos was drafted centuries ago, no? Remember the Psurnys?

Not wanting to be misunderstood, but that hasn't this team had less success in cultivating talented Slavic players than most?

Feels like a long time ago but it was actually the 2017 draft.

I do remember Psurny. And Bahensky. And Dornic, Zvachkin, etc. Those were some dark days of drafting where it felt like each year we'd draft at least one guy who didn't even turn pro and one guy whose pro career was in like second division German hockey.

 

[Rangerboy030]

Not to worry, Expert in All Areas Drury to the rescue

Until we see competent people brought in this looks like a Stalin-esque purge for little discernible reason.

Jesus Christ dude...

 

[LOFIN]

Meh, whatever. Drury wants his guys in, I'm fine with that. Colorado just announced to change their head of scouting. Sakic wanted his guy there. That's the way things go.