Value of: Nichushkin

[Mr Misty]

I think an excellent deal, both value-wise and needs-wise, would be:

Dmitry Orlov

For

Valeri Nichuskin

Both unsigned RFA's, both oozes with skill but haven't really put it all together, both play positions of needs for the other team.

Except that it is not a position of need for us nor is it good value.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Dallas has yet to fix a two headed monster in net but a three headed monster is easy to fix?

Sure!

It's unlikely to ever happen, anyways, as I doubt Nill would put himself in that position to have three overpaid starting goalies at any given time. If he's trading for a goalie, he's definitely moving one of his own goalies in the same deal.

 

[MW6]

Except that it is not a position of need for us nor is it good value.

Defense isn't an area of need? He's a LHD who likes to play RD, was top 10 in even strength scoring even though he played mostly 3rd pair minutes. He'd be in your top-4 for sure. Especially with Oduya and Hamhuis being d-oriented d-men.

 

[Kshahdoo]

He would be great on the Rangers and fit well into the youth movement they're doing. Don't think Dallas moves him though.

In terms of the Rangers, maybe a deal around Klein for Nichushkin with whatever picks to even it out

Don't know though

He's a good friend of Buchnevich as well.

 

[serp]

I think an excellent deal, both value-wise and needs-wise, would be:

Dmitry Orlov

For

Valeri Nichuskin

Both unsigned RFA's, both oozes with skill but haven't really put it all together, both play positions of needs for the other team.

Prior to signing Hamhuis maybe but the Dallas D is now set for next year unless a proven Top 2 guy gets aquired somehow. Stars are rolling with the young guys they have + a couple of proven vets that hold their hands .

 

[Troy McClure]

Literally nothing has come of that because it was nothing to begin with. He got played as a young kid who was frustrated with his own play into venting to the media. It was just after a game where there were I think 6 penalties on each side of the ice. He does play PK and our top PP line ran most all those opportunities. So the game he vented on he had about 10 minutes, didn't produce and was frustrated.

Media targeted him and asked very leading questions that anyone without lots of interview experience could have easily slipped up and not gone by the book. There was and still hasn't been anything bad between him and Ruff or him and Nill. He has said he is happy here but just frustrated with his own play. Something every player should be if they go through a bad stretch.

To reiterate it the only thing that has come from it since the slip up is people like you jumping to random threads and adding "isn't this that Russian kid who hates his team and had publicly said he isn't happy?"

You are just making stuff up here. You have no idea about his relationship with Ruff or Nill.

 

[WhatWhat]

You are just making stuff up here. You have no idea about his relationship with Ruff or Nill.

There is also nothing to indicate that there are any issues between them. Kids slip up from time to time as they learn the industry. It was a non issue that was massively blown out of proportion

 

[WhatWhat]

I think an excellent deal, both value-wise and needs-wise, would be:

Dmitry Orlov

For

Valeri Nichuskin

Both unsigned RFA's, both oozes with skill but haven't really put it all together, both play positions of needs for the other team.

A deal like this could have made sense before Hamhuis but now it would not work

 

[Troy McClure]

There is also nothing to indicate that there are any issues between them. Kids slip up from time to time as they learn the industry. It was a non issue that was massively blown out of proportion

Or it is a real issue, but we don't know because the organization is doing a good job of covering it up. You have no idea.

 

[Mr Misty]

Defense isn't an area of need? He's a LHD who likes to play RD, was top 10 in even strength scoring even though he played mostly 3rd pair minutes. He'd be in your top-4 for sure. Especially with Oduya and Hamhuis being d-oriented d-men.

Just read what you wrote. You think we need defense, and the solution you propose is to bump a good defender out of the top 4 in favor of a player whose strength is scoring at 5 on 5.

We have 8 defensemen already, 6 of which shoot left. We have a set top 4.

Even if it made sense to trade a top 6 RW for a 3rd pair defenseman, even if Nichushkin wasn't one of the only 2 RWs and the only with significant top 6 experience we have coming back in 17-18, there's still the expansion draft. We can easily protect Nichushkin and trading him for a defenseman is going to expose a much better player.

 

[David Castillo]

I think an excellent deal, both value-wise and needs-wise, would be:

Dmitry Orlov

For

Valeri Nichuskin

Both unsigned RFA's, both oozes with skill but haven't really put it all together, both play positions of needs for the other team.

Orlov is a slick modern day defensive defensemen with untapped offensive potential, great zone exit work, and who would be guaranteed to fill in a top four role. He's far better than Lindell (and Hamhuis for that matter), and it helps that his skating is a bagillion times better, and thus would probably fit better in Dallas' high octane system.

I actually like Nuke. He had an incredible last two games against St. Louis, and it would hurt the org's depth at right wing which is already a wasteland (once Eaves, Hemsky, and Sharp leave, who's left that is reliable?). But damn if that doesn't make me seriously consider shipping Nuke.

 

[Whytethunder]

Orlov is a nice NHL player with good possession numbers, but he's sheltered and plays against weak competition. As stated before, if Nuke is moved, ideally it's for a decent possession defensemen that can take defensive zone starts w/ good competition so Klingberg doesn't have to.

 

[WhatWhat]

Orlov is a slick modern day defensive defensemen with untapped offensive potential, great zone exit work, and who would be guaranteed to fill in a top four role. He's far better than Lindell (and Hamhuis for that matter), and it helps that his skating is a bagillion times better, and thus would probably fit better in Dallas' high octane system.

I actually like Nuke. He had an incredible last two games against St. Louis, and it would hurt the org's depth at right wing which is already a wasteland (once Eaves, Hemsky, and Sharp leave, who's left that is reliable?). But damn if that doesn't make me seriously consider shipping Nuke.

The only thing about a deal like this is it would need to be post expansion. There is no way LV don't take the one not exposed between Lindell and Orlov