Value of: Nichushkin

[Rebuilt]

He needs a fresh start. I doubt a team takes him this year as he is non exempt.

 

[WhatWhat]

Even if you actually consider his third year as being his sophomore season, it's still not close. One has a pace of 39 points the other 30. Galchenyuk outscored him in 14 less games still.

One was also top 3 and the other was 10th. They are pretty similar in where people think/thought they should be at

 

[poetryinmotion]

One was also top 3 and the other was 10th. They are pretty similar in where people think/thought they should be at

No disagreement there

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Thank you whoever fixed Nichuskin to the proper Nichushkin!!!

 

[LordHelmet]

Jannik Hansen for Nichushkin and a mid round pick is something that might work.

Dallas gets a useful utility player on a cheap contact who can play up and down the lineup.

Vancouver gets a young sniper with top 6 upside and a draft pick to help the rebuild/retool/reshuffle

This was already responded to, but...

On what planet are:
"an old (30) useful utility player on a cheap contact who can play up and down the lineup."

"a young (21) sniper with top 6 upside"

..anywhere close to equal value?

 

[Toby Flenderson]

What gets him in Pittsburgh? Would love to see him with Malkin

 

[WhatWhat]

What gets him in Pittsburgh? Would love to see him with Malkin

Nothing gets him to Pitsburgh. As stated many times he either goes out in a package for a Klingberg partner or he stays in Dallas. Seeing as you don't have a top pairing LHD to spare I don't think there is anything you could willingly offer that interests Dallas

 

[SEALBound]

Nothing gets him to Pitsburgh. As stated many times he either goes out in a package for a Klingberg partner or he stays in Dallas. Seeing as you don't have a top pairing LHD to spare I don't think there is anything you could willingly offer that interests Dallas

Pouliot...1 for 1...and that's a fair deal for both sides.

 

[WhatWhat]

Pouliot...1 for 1...and that's a fair deal for both sides.

It's almost as if you haven't read the post you quoted... Dallas would need to trade him for a Klingberg partner. Not an other guy to battle with Lindell Nemeth and Oleksiak for a spot in the top 6.


Also, outside of Pouliot simply not being a fit, there is not a single situation were Dallas comes out better in a Pouliot trade due to the expansion draft. We already have our 3 guys on D we are protecting. A trade for Pouliot either does one of 3 things, he doesn't turn into anything and we lose the trade, he plays well and we lose him to expansion, he plays better than Lindell and we lose our top LHD prospect to expansion.

Tldr Nuke for Pouliot does not work for Dallas

 

[Toby Flenderson]

It's almost as if you haven't read the post you quoted... Dallas would need to trade him for a Klingberg partner. Not an other guy to battle with Lindell Nemeth and Oleksiak for a spot in the top 6.


Also, outside of Pouliot simply not being a fit, there is not a single situation were Dallas comes out better in a Pouliot trade due to the expansion draft. We already have our 3 guys on D we are protecting. A trade for Pouliot either does one of 3 things, he doesn't turn into anything and we lose the trade, he plays well and we lose him to expansion, he plays better than Lindell and we lose our top LHD prospect to expansion.

Tldr Nuke for Pouliot does not work for Dallas

Well nuke won't land you a top pairing D without a significant add lol and I'm not talking your 1st cause that is likely a very late one. I'm sure Dallas would be interested in a deal for fleury given their current goalie situation.

 

[Morry83]

Well nuke won't land you a top pairing D without a significant add lol and I'm not talking your 1st cause that is likely a very late one. I'm sure Dallas would be interested in a deal for fleury given their current goalie situation.

"He either goes out in a PACKAGE..."

Seriously man, just read the post before responding.

 

[Toby Flenderson]

"He either goes out in a PACKAGE..."

Seriously man, just read the post before responding.

I did. And I'm wondering what Dallas would add to him? Because a 1st is not enough. Maybe you missed that, "seriously man"

 

[JerseyJoe]

Well nuke won't land you a top pairing D without a significant add lol and I'm not talking your 1st cause that is likely a very late one. I'm sure Dallas would be interested in a deal for fleury given their current goalie situation.

I think the isles can help the areas you need.
Dallas gets :
Jaroslav Halak
Brock Nelson
Calvin de Haan
Adam Pelech

And isles get two needed RWers
Ales Hemsky
Valeri Nichushkin

 

[Ajacied]

I think the isles can help the areas you need.
Dallas gets :
Jaroslav Halak
Brock Nelson
Calvin de Haan
Adam Pelech

And isles get two needed RWers
Ales Hemsky
Valeri Nichushkin

Not bad, value wise. But I think the Stars would rather have a blueliner as the main cog coming back. Not Nelson (who might be the best player in this deal, mind you)..

 

[JerseyJoe]

Calvin de Haan plays the four dman
And Adam Pelech is an up and coming dman

 

[Ajacied]

Calvin de Haan plays the four dman
And Adam Pelech is an up and coming dman

We don't need up and coming defensemen. I think the Stars might have one of the deepest blueline pools in the NHL. Don't need top 4 D's either. We need top end, first pairing talent. With the expansion draft coming up, I'll doubt there will be any deals made though. Management will look at Honka, Lindell or Johns to perhaps become that blueliner in the near future. If not Nuke could potentially be dealt strictly for that sole purpose. Not for a package with blueliners we have in abundance.

 

[Mr Misty]

I think the isles can help the areas you need.
Dallas gets :
Jaroslav Halak
Brock Nelson
Calvin de Haan
Adam Pelech

And isles get two needed RWers
Ales Hemsky
Valeri Nichushkin

This is bananas. We can't have another expensive goalie, and we shouldn't trade one player who needs to be protected for 3 others.

 

[account deactivated]

I did. And I'm wondering what Dallas would add to him? Because a 1st is not enough. Maybe you missed that, "seriously man"

Nobody missed anything with your posts. You pulled that 1st out of your ass because you apparently believe that a package is when you add a 1st round pick to a player. Regardless, speculating on a package for a defenseman to pair with Klingberg is nearly impossible unless there is an indication of such a defenseman being on the block somewhere around the league. It should be obvious that depending on the calibre of said defenseman, the package would likely include different assets.

It seems like you just didn't like the response that Pittsburgh has nothing that Dallas would want in exchange for Nichushkin (that work given the upcoming expansion draft). Get over it.

 

[LT]

I did. And I'm wondering what Dallas would add to him? Because a 1st is not enough. Maybe you missed that, "seriously man"

He said a package, he didn't say just a first. You're making assumptions and got called out for that.

I think the isles can help the areas you need.
Dallas gets :
Jaroslav Halak
Brock Nelson
Calvin de Haan
Adam Pelech

And isles get two needed RWers
Ales Hemsky
Valeri Nichushkin

Stars take this and run. We'll make the logistics work later.

This is horrendous value for the Islanders.

 

[Dr Pepper]

I think the isles can help the areas you need.
Dallas gets :
Jaroslav Halak
Brock Nelson
Calvin de Haan
Adam Pelech

And isles get two needed RWers
Ales Hemsky
Valeri Nichushkin

That is a steal for Dallas. Leaves them with a three-headed monster in net but that's an easy fix (I think).

 

[Satan]

That is a steal for Dallas. Leaves them with a three-headed monster in net but that's an easy fix (I think).

Dallas has yet to fix a two headed monster in net but a three headed monster is easy to fix?

 

[WhatWhat]

Well nuke won't land you a top pairing D without a significant add lol and I'm not talking your 1st cause that is likely a very late one. I'm sure Dallas would be interested in a deal for fleury given their current goalie situation.

And that is why I said he would be part of a package... if Nuke of nor part of a package for a top pairing LHD then Dallas is 100% keeping him especially since Sharp and Hemsky are likely gone

 

[William Hylander]

I have always liked the idea of a straight trade JVR for Nuke. Considering that the leafs retain more years of control and Dallas gets a prime age LW for a bargain for 2+ years, I think that should be something that both sides will like.

 

[Rschmitz]

I'll just regurgitate the Bishop for Nichushkin+ suggestions in other threads

 

[MW6]

I think an excellent deal, both value-wise and needs-wise, would be:

Dmitry Orlov

For

Valeri Nichuskin

Both unsigned RFA's, both oozes with skill but haven't really put it all together, both play positions of needs for the other team.