Niagara IceDogs 2023-24 Off-Season Thread

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sbpointer

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Well this didn't take long..
Day after the deadline not dressing a full team.

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Icedogs continue to roll after a 4 to 1 win over Barrie. 3,348 watched tge game athe Merdian Centre. Next game at home tomorrow night against Flint.
 

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Yep, 13 forwards, 6 defencemen and 2 goalies. Only 6 defensemen is a huge concern.

Didn't seem to hurt them

Too much negativity towards this team. I get it when it's directed to the owner. But the players are giving 100% and playing well. They have the odd bad game but generally they are playing well. Coaching is getting the most out of them. They still have some injuries but will be healthy soon and could push for a playoff spot. Difficult but possible
 
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The team is playing well! Our 16 and 17 year olds are playing above expectations and I have to believe it's the coaching. #SELLTHETEAM I can't wait to win the lottery so I can buy this team from this plug.
 

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The team is playing well! Our 16 and 17 year olds are playing above expectations and I have to believe it's the coaching. #SELLTHETEAM I can't wait to win the lottery so I can buy this team from this plug.
Quick question Dog. If the owner grants your wish and the team is sold and moved to another city will you still call your self Dog Fan?
 

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Why would they
Three Dog ask Dog Fan. He is the one advocating they sell. I just wanted to ask him if they did move would he still support the team and call himself Dog Fan. He has to take a move into consideration if the team was sold. Watching the Ice Dogs they have a great arena and fan base. They aren't going anywhere.
 

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Three Dog ask Dog Fan. He is the one advocating they sell. I just wanted to ask him if they did move would he still support the team and call himself Dog Fan. He has to take a move into consideration if the team was sold. Watching the Ice Dogs they have a great arena and fan base. They aren't going anywhere.
I understand the risk but I can't sit back and watch this crap

They sold the team to someone who can't afford it. The team will be gone soon if we stay with the status quo.
 

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I understand the risk but I can't sit back and watch this crap

They sold the team to someone who can't afford it. The team will be gone soon if we stay with the status quo.
Easy to understand the frustration with the owners Dog. Fans do deserve better for sure. When the fans foot the bill they should get more respect and do what right for the community. Nothing worse than someone profiting off the backs of hard working people.
 

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Just realized, 7 out of the last possible 8 pts. Nice.
Yes, Boudreau has them playing well. I know when you are in 20th place in a 20 team league you can't say you have an easy schedule coming up but we do play Barrie, Oshawa, Peterborough and Kingston (who we've played well against) quite a few times...and except for Erie and the Soo we are done with the west.
 

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Flint 5 Icedogs 2 He scored his twenty goal f tge year 4,385 fans watched the home game. Next game Thursday against Mississauga at home
 

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Easy to understand the frustration with the owners Dog. Fans do deserve better for sure. When the fans foot the bill they should get more respect and do what right for the community. Nothing worse than someone profiting off the backs of hard working people.
The IceDogs signed a 20 year lease in 2014 when they moved into the new arena. The CAO of St. Catharines was in the media when the Burke's put the team up for sale and said the team is locked in for the 20 years. But putting that aside, I would prefer the team move and then the city try to attract another team. Attendance is down 1300/game from the 2019-20 season (the last year the old owners owned the team minus the COVID year) and many have said they are not renewing their season tickets next season. I think the team is dying a slow death right now.
 

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I understand the risk but I can't sit back and watch this crap

They sold the team to someone who can't afford it. The team will be gone soon if we stay with the status quo.
Dog Fan, I have heard two different stories. One is the IceDogs owner (DD) went in debt up to his eyeballs to buy the team and with the loan repayments, he can't afford to run the team properly.

But I have also heard the DD has lots of cash but bought the team to squeeze every drop of profit from it.

Do you know for sure if it's the first one? (no cash to run the team)
 
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Is Alexander Assadourian injured?
Yes he is

The IceDogs signed a 20 year lease in 2014 when they moved into the new arena. The CAO of St. Catharines was in the media when the Burke's put the team up for sale and said the team is locked in for the 20 years. But putting that aside, I would prefer the team move and then the city try to attract another team. Attendance is down 1300/game from the 2019-20 season (the last year the old owners owned the team minus the COVID year) and many have said they are not renewing their season tickets next season. I think the team is dying a slow death right now.
Why wouldn’t they renew team is improving
 

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Dog Fan, I have heard two different stories. One is the IceDogs owner (DD) went in debt up to his eyeballs to buy the team and with the loan repayments, he can't afford to run the team properly.

But I have also heard the DD has lots of cash but bought the team to squeeze every drop of profit from it.

Do you know for sure if it's the first one? (no cash to run the team)
Might be a combo of the two. Having lots of cash to run a GOJHL team is a whole different ballgame then having lots of cash as an OHL owner..

Maybe he bit off more then he can chew...
 

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The IceDogs signed a 20 year lease in 2014 when they moved into the new arena. The CAO of St. Catharines was in the media when the Burke's put the team up for sale and said the team is locked in for the 20 years. But putting that aside, I would prefer the team move and then the city try to attract another team. Attendance is down 1300/game from the 2019-20 season (the last year the old owners owned the team minus the COVID year) and many have said they are not renewing their season tickets next season. I think the team is dying a slow death right now.
Good post. Sheds light on the situation none of us really know anything about. Most of us really haven't got an idea of what goes on behind scenes of the teams we cheer for around the league. Yet we make assumptions about the situation with Niagara. The Niagara area is no different than any other district in Ontario. They have the population and fan base to fill an OHL arena. Hopefully they straighten out the issues going forward.
 

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This is only speculation. I don't know how you value a company that sells general insurance but I suspect most of the value is in good will because the policies are portable. I don't know the amount of money DD has but suspect that the costs associated with an OHL franchise may have come as a surprise. He acts as though he can't afford it and to have that happen so early in his tenure as an owner, is disconcerting. #SELLTHETEAM

As a person that lives in St. Catharines and is loyal to the IceDogs, I can only hope that a local owner with deep pockets steps to the plate...do you hear me Tom Rankin! #SELLTHETEAM
 
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