Niagara IceDogs 2023-24 Off-Season Thread

[OMG67]

As I said the team had 2 choices. Both were brought on by the idiot schedulers. There is a reason that if you look at Kingston and Ottawa they do a northern weekend swing ending on Sunday.

As the coach complained, I will add that no matter what choice was made, it would have been the reason that they lost. Remember, a few days later, he was no longer a coach.

Was either scenario great NO, but again, people have to remember that this is a business, and that means that money is always a concern @OMG67 will tell you that when Earl Montagano had the 67s and ran the purse strings, Ottawa would have also been on the bus and driving back that night.

Welcome to the CHL. If you think these guys get it bad, check out the WHL and the bus time and mileage that those kids put in.

Also, remember the players are the players. They are employees, and everyone knows at the OHL level, you spend a great deal of time on buses.


Sorry but in this case, I can direct you to Sympathy. It is in between those two well-known S words.

Kilrea used to say he didn’t care how long it took to get to game one or back from the last game of a road trip. He only cared about how long it was between games. The 67’s used to have a four game in 3.5 day road trip when Newmarket moved to Sarnia. It was Windsor on Thursday, Sarnia and Detroit/Plymouth on Friday and Saturday. Then it was London on Sunday afternoon. The 67’s in the Montagano days would leave early on Thursday morning and arrive a couple hours before game time In Windsor. Needless to say, they never won that game. Ever. It wasn’t’ until Hunt took over where they’d go down on Wednesday. Oddly enough, they usually won on the Sunday in London. After th London game, they would drive back to Ottawa.

What we are seeing now is a lot of stupid schedules with 4 hour trips for one game followed by a home game the next day. Ottawa had a weekend in November where they played Oshawa at home on Friday, then in Oshawa on Saturday and then back at home Sunday afternoon at 2pm against Sarnia. How dumb is that? That should never happen but the schedule makers look at divisional games as same day in and out games. They don‘t account for distance.

 

[beastintheeast]

Kilrea used to say he didn’t care how long it took to get to game one or back from the last game of a road trip. He only cared about how long it was between games. The 67’s used to have a four game in 3.5 day road trip when Newmarket moved to Sarnia. It was Windsor on Thursday, Sarnia and Detroit/Plymouth on Friday and Saturday. Then it was London on Sunday afternoon. The 67’s in the Montagano days would leave early on Thursday morning and arrive a couple hours before game time In Windsor. Needless to say, they never won that game. Ever. It wasn’t’ until Hunt took over where they’d go down on Wednesday. Oddly enough, they usually won on the Sunday in London. After th London game, they would drive back to Ottawa.

What we are seeing now is a lot of stupid schedules with 4 hour trips for one game followed by a home game the next day. Ottawa had a weekend in November where they played Oshawa at home on Friday, then in Oshawa on Saturday and then back at home Sunday afternoon at 2pm against Sarnia. How dumb is that? That should never happen but the schedule makers look at divisional games as same day in and out games. They don‘t account for distance.

Killer and Earl would have screamed bloody murder at Branch if he scheduled a Monday game after a Sunday night in Sudbury, but then again, both of them had Gravitas with the league and other owners.

The Niagara owner is a newbie, and Khuwbara was not highly thought of.

I think the schedulers have no real idea and should get on the buses with a team. That being said, one of the things that I am sure the 67's miss is Kingston on Friday, Hellville on, and Oshawa on Sunday.

I am surprised that the OHL does not have a Kingston Friday, Petes Sat, and Gens Miss Sunday.

 

[OMG67]

Killer and Earl would have screamed bloody murder at Branch if he scheduled a Monday game after a Sunday night in Sudbury, but then again, both of them had Gravitas with the league and other owners.

The Niagara owner is a newbie, and Khuwbara was not highly thought of.

I think the schedulers have no real idea and should get on the buses with a team. That being said, one of the things that I am sure the 67's miss is Kingston on Friday, Hellville on, and Oshawa on Sunday.

I am surprised that the OHL does not have a Kingston Friday, Petes Sat, and Gens Miss Sunday.

Actually, it was a lot of Petes Thursday, Kingston Friday and Belleville Saturday as well. Belleville had a fair number of Wednesday night games too.

They’d hit Oshawa on the way home on Sunday nights from games in places like Barrie and Kitchener.

The league doesn’t seem as keen on 3 in 3 on the road anymore. We see a lot of 3 game roadies broken up over four days. A lot of Thursday nights. Ottawa only has two of them this year With the Fri-Sat-Sun.

 

[User13452]

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Well I guess the players would disagree with you on that as I was told they wanted to spend the night in a hotel in Sudbury, where they could get a good night's sleep and then travel back in the morning. Driving home after the game meant they didn't get back to St. Catharines until 3am. By the time they got back to their billets house and got to bed, it was likely 4am. Not everyone can sleep on a bus. It's difficult to get to bed at 4am and then have to play the next day.

Even the coach mentioned in the paper how difficult it was for the players. After the game on Nov 4, he said "We got in at three in the morning. It’s tough for young guys. It’s our first real long road trip too." (https://www.bpsportsniagara.com/icedogs-come-up-short-versus-battalion/). So obviously the coach thought driving home after the Sudbury game had a negative effect on the team and contributed to the loss.

I admit its not as bad as last year, where the players had to be at the arena to board the bus for 6am, then they drove up to Sudbury for a 2pm game, lost 13-2, and then drove back home after the game. That was ridiculous and probably contributed to some players asking out.

If that bottom part is true about boarding the bus at 6am for a 2pm game in Sudbury then that’s wrong. Team should have been in a hotel the night before. Thats the first I’ve heard a team do that no wonder they lost 13-2 no other team in the league would’ve been stupid or cheap enough to do that. It should have just been common sense to go up the night before.

 

[beastintheeast]

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If that bottom part is true about boarding the bus at 6am for a 2pm game in Sudbury then that’s wrong. Team should have been in a hotel the night before. Thats the first I’ve heard a team do that no wonder they lost 13-2 no other team in the league would’ve been stupid or cheap enough to do that. It should have just been common sense to go up the night before.

There has to be some context. When the game was, what were they doing the night before? Looking at the schedule, I notice that they played London at Ldn on the 2nd.

These things are not done in a vacuum. There is usually reasoning for that. As OMG stated, Ottawa used to do the same thing. It is called the owner trying to save money. Kingston and Ottawa fans used to wonder, but that is part of the business. There is and always will be owners that are in it for a business and prestige.

Itis part of the learning process of ownership. Travel is one of the highest expenses. Again it is easy to say it was crap, but you need to understand that there might have been a mindset that was different.

I am not saying it is right or wrong, just that it is what it is, and it happens all the time.

you can not condemn a team for saving money and losing a game. It is the overall plan.

remember the new ownership group stepped in and saved teh franchise when it was being hammered by the league. He took over having to pay some pretty stiff penalties as well as losing a draft pick.

This will affect what you do with your team, how much you can pay for a coach, and what you do about things if you are suspended as a GM. This probably means that they would have a hassle finding one.

Consider this: the last owner was forced by the league to see had the coach and GM suspended by the league and got heavy fines.

This guy is building a franchise he is going through the right motions as best he can.

If the fans start to bad mouth him or denigrate him, he has a simple solution: Fold the team or find a city that is more willing and more appreciative.

 

[Dog Fan]

There has to be some context. When the game was, what were they doing the night before? Looking at the schedule, I notice that they played London at Ldn on the 2nd.

These things are not done in a vacuum. There is usually reasoning for that. As OMG stated, Ottawa used to do the same thing. It is called the owner trying to save money. Kingston and Ottawa fans used to wonder, but that is part of the business. There is and always will be owners that are in it for a business and prestige.

Itis part of the learning process of ownership. Travel is one of the highest expenses. Again it is easy to say it was crap, but you need to understand that there might have been a mindset that was different.

I am not saying it is right or wrong, just that it is what it is, and it happens all the time.

you can not condemn a team for saving money and losing a game. It is the overall plan.

remember the new ownership group stepped in and saved teh franchise when it was being hammered by the league. He took over having to pay some pretty stiff penalties as well as losing a draft pick.

This will affect what you do with your team, how much you can pay for a coach, and what you do about things if you are suspended as a GM. This probably means that they would have a hassle finding one.

Consider this: the last owner was forced by the league to see had the coach and GM suspended by the league and got heavy fines.

This guy is building a franchise he is going through the right motions as best he can.

If the fans start to bad mouth him or denigrate him, he has a simple solution: Fold the team or find a city that is more willing and more appreciative.

Wow! IF THE FANS BAD MOUTH OR DENIGRATE HIM...he doesn't do anything in the community, he doesn't contribute to causes in the community...he hasn't done anything to deserve the loyalty of the fans! Yet, we love our players and will continue to support the team. If you are cheap, don't buy an OHL franchise!

 

[beastintheeast]

Wow! IF THE FANS BAD MOUTH OR DENIGRATE HIM...he doesn't do anything in the community, he doesn't contribute to causes in the community...he hasn't done anything to deserve the loyalty of the fans! Yet, we love our players and will continue to support the team. If you are cheap, don't buy an OHL franchise!

Dog Fan How long have you been an OHL fan? I am not asking to chuck at you, but it will explain a few things.

There have been many teams in the OHL that supposedly did nothing in the community.

Ottawa and Kingston come to mind as the most obvious.

I understand you have a latent need for people to sell if you do not like them.

I am saying this is an owner who is brand new to the OHL systems. He is learning. He needed guidance, so he asked the Boudreaus to assist him. He will get the hang of it.

One extra question: how many people were lined up to buy the team from the previous owners? I am willing to be the line was rather small.

Take it with a grain of salt. Enjoy watching the stars on the other teams, and if you want and are so against the owner, then boo the Dogs.

 

[Dog Fan]

Dog Fan How long have you been an OHL fan? I am not asking to chuck at you, but it will explain a few things.

There have been many teams in the OHL that supposedly did nothing in the community.

Ottawa and Kingston come to mind as the most obvious.

I understand you have a latent need for people to sell if you do not like them.

I am saying this is an owner who is brand new to the OHL systems. He is learning. He needed guidance, so he asked the Boudreaus to assist him. He will get the hang of it.

One extra question: how many people were lined up to buy the team from the previous owners? I am willing to be the line was rather small.

Take it with a grain of salt. Enjoy watching the stars on the other teams, and if you want and are so against the owner, then boo the Dogs.

It doesn't matter that there have been others. Any business owner anywhere who intends to run a business in a community should donate time and money to local charities and activities...it's good business and good home town relations. It is irrelevant that other have been cheap in the past...btw, I have been an OHL fan through the St. Catharines Blackhawks, St. Catharines Fincups and was, and still am, a fan of the St. Catharines Falcons while we didn't have an OHL team.

 

[three dog night]

They do community work I heard they work with boys and girls club Niagara giving tickets to under privileged kids to go to Icedogs games the players visit schools and hospitals preseason tickets went to donate to the humane society.

 

[bobber]

They do community work I heard they work with boys and girls club Niagara giving tickets to under privileged kids to go to Icedogs games the players visit schools and hospitals preseason tickets went to donate to the humane society.

All OHL teams do some sort of community work I believe. Niagara is no different. Most fans outside of the city talking shit about Niagara have no real idea of how the team operates. As an OHL fan in another city I can't honestly sit at a key board and criticize the Ice Dog franchise because I really haven't got a clue even where the arena is let alone how things are run presently. Watching the games on the tube once in a while it looks like a decent facility with a great crowd and atmosphere.

 

[dirty12]

Wow! IF THE FANS BAD MOUTH OR DENIGRATE HIM...he doesn't do anything in the community, he doesn't contribute to causes in the community...he hasn't done anything to deserve the loyalty of the fans! Yet, we love our players and will continue to support the team. If you are cheap, don't buy an OHL franchise!

It doesn't matter that there have been others. Any business owner anywhere who intends to run a business in a community should donate time and money to local charities and activities...it's good business and good home town relations. It is irrelevant that other have been cheap in the past...btw, I have been an OHL fan through the St. Catharines Blackhawks, St. Catharines Fincups and was, and still am, a fan of the St. Catharines Falcons while we didn't have an OHL team.

$21M for an OHL team ain't cheap. It might be a few years before there is pure goodwill $

 

[beastintheeast]

It doesn't matter that there have been others. Any business owner anywhere who intends to run a business in a community should donate time and money to local charities and activities...it's good business and good home town relations. It is irrelevant that other have been cheap in the past...btw, I have been an OHL fan through the St. Catharines Blackhawks, St. Catharines Fincups and was, and still am, a fan of the St. Catharines Falcons while we didn't have an OHL team.

ok then, you remember the other teams and the way they operated.

My point was that I wanted to know if you were around when the OHL owners did not spend money and when the long hall road trips for 1 game were more common.

Trust me this owner has the team going in the right direction from what I see. You just have to give him time.

However, if you are not happy you can do like I did for Mavs final years in Kingston and go to the game and cheer for the other team and jeer. I actually found it enjoyable, and the responses were always interesting.

 

[three dog night]

A tough overtime loss tonight agains Owen Sound 5 to 4. 4,365 fans watched the game.

 

[bigsportsfan]

ok then, you remember the other teams and the way they operated.

My point was that I wanted to know if you were around when the OHL owners did not spend money and when the long hall road trips for 1 game were more common.

Trust me this owner has the team going in the right direction from what I see. You just have to give him time.

However, if you are not happy you can do like I did for Mavs final years in Kingston and go to the game and cheer for the other team and jeer. I actually found it enjoyable, and the responses were always interesting.

@beastintheeast, you may know a lot about the OHL but you know very little about what is going on with the Niagara IceDogs. The new owner is literally running the team into the ground. Consider the following:

- When he bought the team, he immediately cut the budget back to a level where many thought the team could not be competitive. The result - the team had their worst record ever last year, which was the first year under the new owner.

- He will not hire a GM and instead does the GM duties himself despite not being qualified.

- The IceDogs only have 5 scouts, the lowest number of any team and I believe none have any OHL scouting experience.

- When he originally named his coaching staff, not one person had any experience at the OHL level or above.

- Last season, at one point he refused to buy the team meals when they traveled to away games so the players had to bring their meals from their billets house. I have no idea if this is still going on or not.

- As I previously stated, he made them leave St. Catharines at 6am for a game at 2pm in Sudbury. There is no backstory. He just wanted to save money. The players were furious.

- He no longer provides meals in the scout/media room and I believe is the only team to not provide food.

- He rarely allows interviews by the media and fans are never told about the teams plans. Actually the media has said multiple times that he appears to have no long term plans and makes decisions on a day by day basis,

- We have now finished in last place two years in a row and are currently in last place again. (proof he has no long term plans)

- I believe they made 26 trades last season and likely some of those trades were a result of players asking out.

- Attendance is the lowest ever since the team moved to the Meridian Centre and many fans are refusing to attend games or buy season tickets until he sells the team.

- He was suspended for two season as officially being the GM in regards to the bullying scandal.

- Last season our first round pick failed to report, This season our third round pick failed to report. He avoids picking players in the import draft. Also this season, after trading for Ryan Humphrey, he left and joined the USHL.

- In the 1.5 years that the new owner has owned the team, here are the hockey operations staff that have left or been fired. (All of these people were with the team last season and most were hired by the new owner)
Owner: Wayne Gretzky (yes he apparently is no longer an owner)
Head Coaches: Dan Fitzgerald, Jeff Angelidis, Ryan Kuwabara
Asst Coach: Andrew Fritsch
Consultant: Rick Wamsley
Player Development: Evan McGrath
Goalie Coach: Jason Barron
Head Equipment Manager: Trevor Castonguay
I probably also missed a few people.

I could go on and on but won't. But I will leave you with some links if you want a better look at what is going on here.

https://www.bpsportsniagara.com/q-and-a-with-icedogs-owner-darren-dedobbelaer-part-two/ - Great read as the interviewer asks the new owner some tough questions,

- Great podcast by Mike Farewell, Rangers play by play man, about how bad Niagara is run and how Niagara may be trading draft picks in exchange for the other team taking the scholarship costs away from the IceDogs.

FTB: IceDogs appeal punishment, get a tiny win - Talks about how bad the owner is as a GM

FTB: Niagara IceDogs fire head coach, replace him with a worse coach - Talks about how bad the team is being run

 

[Noofgoof]

For what it's worth as an Owen Sound fan we had no business winning that game tonight until the second half of the third period. Up until then Niagara seemed to have a better game plan and seemed to be sticking to it. Votary got lucky/had a good game and also got some lucky bounces. Your TV analyst got pretty heated at the end of the game with the way the team collapsed and some of the decisions made on the bench. He didn't say anything wrong per say at least in my opinion but he did get pretty worked up. Hopefully it wasn't enough to get him self in hot water. I do like listening to him when we play he seems smart and has good insight most times. If you guys play like that more often you will find your share of wins. I think it came down to the older more experienced team with higher skill just found a way to win even though they tried to find a way to loose at times it seemed. Although you guys have had some pretty rough spots you do have a few pieces that truly are great and fun to watch. Hopefully the season starts turning around for you.

 

[beastintheeast]

@beastintheeast, you may know a lot about the OHL but you know very little about what is going on with the Niagara IceDogs. The new owner is literally running the team into the ground. Consider the following:

- When he bought the team, he immediately cut the budget back to a level where many thought the team could not be competitive. The result - the team had their worst record ever last year, which was the first year under the new owner.

- He will not hire a GM and instead does the GM duties himself despite not being qualified.

- The IceDogs only have 5 scouts, the lowest number of any team and I believe none have any OHL scouting experience.

- When he originally named his coaching staff, not one person had any experience at the OHL level or above.

- Last season, at one point he refused to buy the team meals when they traveled to away games so the players had to bring their meals from their billets house. I have no idea if this is still going on or not.

- As I previously stated, he made them leave St. Catharines at 6am for a game at 2pm in Sudbury. There is no backstory. He just wanted to save money. The players were furious.

- He no longer provides meals in the scout/media room and I believe is the only team to not provide food.

- He rarely allows interviews by the media and fans are never told about the teams plans. Actually the media has said multiple times that he appears to have no long term plans and makes decisions on a day by day basis,

- We have now finished in last place two years in a row and are currently in last place again. (proof he has no long term plans)

- I believe they made 26 trades last season and likely some of those trades were a result of players asking out.

- Attendance is the lowest ever since the team moved to the Meridian Centre and many fans are refusing to attend games or buy season tickets until he sells the team.

- He was suspended for two season as officially being the GM in regards to the bullying scandal.

- Last season our first round pick failed to report, This season our third round pick failed to report. He avoids picking players in the import draft. Also this season, after trading for Ryan Humphrey, he left and joined the USHL.

- In the 1.5 years that the new owner has owned the team, here are the hockey operations staff that have left or been fired. (All of these people were with the team last season and most were hired by the new owner)
Owner: Wayne Gretzky (yes he apparently is no longer an owner)
Head Coaches: Dan Fitzgerald, Jeff Angelidis, Ryan Kuwabara
Asst Coach: Andrew Fritsch
Consultant: Rick Wamsley
Player Development: Evan McGrath
Goalie Coach: Jason Barron
Head Equipment Manager: Trevor Castonguay
I probably also missed a few people.

I could go on and on but won't. But I will leave you with some links if you want a better look at what is going on here.

https://www.bpsportsniagara.com/q-and-a-with-icedogs-owner-darren-dedobbelaer-part-two/ - Great read as the interviewer asks the new owner some tough questions,

- Great podcast by Mike Farewell, Rangers play by play man, about how bad Niagara is run and how Niagara may be trading draft picks in exchange for the other team taking the scholarship costs away from the IceDogs.

FTB: IceDogs appeal punishment, get a tiny win - Talks about how bad the owner is as a GM

FTB: Niagara IceDogs fire head coach, replace him with a worse coach - Talks about how bad the team is being run

Again, I will only state that he sounds a lot like Ottawa pre-hunt.

Yes, in his first year, he made mistakes, no doubt, But give him credit in that he may have realized limitations and has brought in Boudreau and his family to help him.

Would you rather he stay all year with Ryan or make a change?

He is trying to figure it out. Talk to Fronts fans and ask them about the first years with Springer. Talk to Old Ottawa fans and ask them about life under Earl.


Again, I ask the one big question, though : when the league told the previous owners to sell, many people were ready to step in and own the team?

 

[Dog Fan]

@beastintheeast, you may know a lot about the OHL but you know very little about what is going on with the Niagara IceDogs. The new owner is literally running the team into the ground. Consider the following:

- When he bought the team, he immediately cut the budget back to a level where many thought the team could not be competitive. The result - the team had their worst record ever last year, which was the first year under the new owner.

- He will not hire a GM and instead does the GM duties himself despite not being qualified.

- The IceDogs only have 5 scouts, the lowest number of any team and I believe none have any OHL scouting experience.

- When he originally named his coaching staff, not one person had any experience at the OHL level or above.

- Last season, at one point he refused to buy the team meals when they traveled to away games so the players had to bring their meals from their billets house. I have no idea if this is still going on or not.

- As I previously stated, he made them leave St. Catharines at 6am for a game at 2pm in Sudbury. There is no backstory. He just wanted to save money. The players were furious.

- He no longer provides meals in the scout/media room and I believe is the only team to not provide food.

- He rarely allows interviews by the media and fans are never told about the teams plans. Actually the media has said multiple times that he appears to have no long term plans and makes decisions on a day by day basis,

- We have now finished in last place two years in a row and are currently in last place again. (proof he has no long term plans)

- I believe they made 26 trades last season and likely some of those trades were a result of players asking out.

- Attendance is the lowest ever since the team moved to the Meridian Centre and many fans are refusing to attend games or buy season tickets until he sells the team.

- He was suspended for two season as officially being the GM in regards to the bullying scandal.

- Last season our first round pick failed to report, This season our third round pick failed to report. He avoids picking players in the import draft. Also this season, after trading for Ryan Humphrey, he left and joined the USHL.

- In the 1.5 years that the new owner has owned the team, here are the hockey operations staff that have left or been fired. (All of these people were with the team last season and most were hired by the new owner)
Owner: Wayne Gretzky (yes he apparently is no longer an owner)
Head Coaches: Dan Fitzgerald, Jeff Angelidis, Ryan Kuwabara
Asst Coach: Andrew Fritsch
Consultant: Rick Wamsley
Player Development: Evan McGrath
Goalie Coach: Jason Barron
Head Equipment Manager: Trevor Castonguay
I probably also missed a few people.

I could go on and on but won't. But I will leave you with some links if you want a better look at what is going on here.

https://www.bpsportsniagara.com/q-and-a-with-icedogs-owner-darren-dedobbelaer-part-two/ - Great read as the interviewer asks the new owner some tough questions,

- Great podcast by Mike Farewell, Rangers play by play man, about how bad Niagara is run and how Niagara may be trading draft picks in exchange for the other team taking the scholarship costs away from the IceDogs.

FTB: IceDogs appeal punishment, get a tiny win - Talks about how bad the owner is as a GM

FTB: Niagara IceDogs fire head coach, replace him with a worse coach - Talks about how bad the team is being run

Let's not forget Laura-Leigjh who has been our in-game host since day one of the Icedogs franchise, who was fired because he hired someone cheaper and believe me, we got what we paid for. I saw discussion regarding the Tomasino trade and the draft picks Oshawa gave up...well most of, if not all of, those draft picks are gone in trades for Zito, and a few othersI can't remember and the players are all gone for fewer and worse draft picks. Then we sell Dickenson for picks and many of those picks are gone for players that haven't made a difference.

 

[mattommy98]

I wish they would put it ride upon forward in front of the net and bring federkow back on d

 

[Millpond]

Visited your rink last night for the Attack game.
Second visit.
Lovely facility. Great location, speedy efficient concessions and friendly staff. Local restaurant, Brass Monkey delicious food , cold beer and friendly service .
In game features great. Awesome sound and video.
Edge of my seat excitement .

The goal horn just about blew my head off. Made everyone jump when it blasted . Local Tim Hortons service very slow .

3.5 hr trip was well worth it.

Bonus points-- Gavin Bryant came by pregame and said hi. We sure miss him in OS. #alwaysabear.
You've got a great one there , folks, on and off ice .



I will definitely return . I wish you better things ( all around) for your team moving forward .

Hang in there. You will get past this, and outlast DD.

All the Best.

 

[bigsportsfan]

Again, I ask the one big question, though : when the league told the previous owners to sell, many people were ready to step in and own the team?

The team was already in the process of being sold before the sanctions against their GM and Coach were issued.

There were a number of interested groups but in the end it came down to two groups. DD (the new owner) outbid the other group by several million dollars.

Here is some more information on the sale:

Ken Campbell – Page 2 – TAKING NOTE

Posts about Ken Campbell written by greggdrinnan

greggdrinnan.com

Ken Campbell at Hockey Unfiltered wrote on Monday about the impending sale of the OHL’s Niagara Falls IceDogs to Darren DeDobbelaer and speculation that Wayne Gretzky is in for five per cent. Both men are from Brantford, Ont. . . . Campbell also had this:

“DeDobbelaer also declined to comment on the purchase price, which is believed to be $18 million, which is actually 10 percent less than the $20 million owners Bill and Denise Burke were seeking for the franchise. And that makes sense, since the league had suspended GM Joey Burke and coach Billy Burke, the sons of the owners, until at least 2024 for violating the league’s harassment, abuse and diversity policy. And while the Burkes were not forced to sell, they were definitely a motivated seller, which served to bring the price down.

 

[From Up Top]

@beastintheeast, you may know a lot about the OHL but you know very little about what is going on with the Niagara IceDogs. The new owner is literally running the team into the ground. Consider the following:



- He no longer provides meals in the scout/media room and I believe is the only team to not provide food.

Niagara isn't the only team to do this. Barrie Colts ownership has also gone the cheap route for operations, and they don't provide meals for scouts/media, but the owner closed the scout/media room and expects them to pay for meals at the arena restaurant.

 

[three dog night]

Icedogs 5 Windsor 2 for win number ten and a sweep of the season. Series. Levin scored twice for the Dogs . 3,842 fans watched the game at tge Merdian Centre. Next game Thursday night when Barrie comes to town.

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

Ride was scratched tonight. Anyone know if that's injury or trade?

 

[Geff]

Trade

 

[GoFronts]

Ride was scratched tonight. Anyone know if that's injury or trade?