If only someone would explain what happened in Atlanta I and Atlanta II that caused those franchises to relocate. Well, maybe someone will do some extensive research and maybe talk to people who were there either time (or maybe even both times) and finally explain it here once. Or, 1,999 times.
So what you are saying, is that the 2nd time around, in the 7th biggest tv market in the US, originally being bought by Turner who owns major network, with sliding attendance and deciding to wash their hands of team to a shitty local group, which was agreed and allowed to by this non dictatorship league, agreed on that stance, but yet were allowed to relocate, somehow deserves shots over other markets now?
And defending them because of various reasons doesn't defend anything I said, when I stated maybe another place should get it's chance. Acting like they were the only city in league history to have bum owners or go through bad financial times. Following the Canucks, they almost lost their team due to a weakening dollar, but worked it out. Along the way they lost their NBA team. Atl flames were in such debt due to owners cash flow burned up in other projects and, lo and behold, low attendance, which was part of the 2nd fallout. The nhl allowed the atlanta spirit group to buy 2nd time off Turner, and through their great efforts to filter out other bids, came to the conclusion that a group made up of alot of ppl who were not even wanting the nhl side of the sale, agreed to it. That's on the league.
Why does it hurt your soul so much that people would have an opinion as to why they'd personally want that if there was expansion, that this area shouldn't get first dibs?
I know this is going to come as a complete shock to people, seeing as how it's been explained 2,024 times before, but no matter where you put teams under the current cap system - which, BTW, requires revenue sharing in some fashion - someone is going to be receiving revenue sharing. It is mathematically impossible to move teams around, delete teams as desired, and somehow make everyone "above average" so that no one needs revenue sharing.
The idea of revenue sharing is great, you are right, someone will always get it, nothing I stated presented otherwise. The issue I may have not got across, is if you are regularly sharing with markets that are in no way making money, nor growing, that really is counterintuitive to actually growing the game, revenues, viewership, fanbase.
1. Fans don't decide where teams operate. Owners do.
2. There is no guarantee that any franchise will thrive in a given location. Winning and competent ownership have a hell of a lot more to do with whether a franchise will thrive than where it's located.
Where did I state anything about fans deciding? I stated my opinion, this has nothing to do with what or where is chosen.
And you are correct, there is no guarantee. What you try to do in a good business model, is to find the best options to mitigate the least amount of failure. Again, you say competent ownership, the league decides who it allows in, I guess they can f*** up too right, considering who they've allowed to own certain teams I need not keep repeating.
And then those new markets would generate higher revenues, which would push up the salary cap, which means everyone has to spend more money, which weakens every single franchise whose revenues fall under the average - and there's going to be more under the average than over given how revenues by team skews - which means all the high-revenue teams have to fork over more in profit sharing to support their low-revenue brethren.
Yep new markets can generate higher revenue. So go to a NEW market. Bringing up big TV markets, Houston is ahead of Atlanta. This is an agree to disagree about locations and such. You can be pro Georgia, no fault in that, but to say it is the best option atm, that is very debatable
Unless, again, you can figure out how to defy the laws of mathematics and move/delete teams so that everyone is "above average."
Again, no where did I state anything about this, but u keep beating that drum big guy
Real f***ing shame Bettman runs a dictatorship in the NHL, instead of doing what the other 32 owners ask him to do. Imagine how weird it would be if all the other team owners backed this idea, created a process to solicit bids, reviewed proposals from interested parties, and then voted to award new teams to interested owners who paid the requested fee.
Yeah, that's crazy talk. It's that goddamn asshole Bettman's decision to make on his own, and he flips out new franchises like he's dealing cards at the kitchen poker table.
Which leads me to this, so you are saying the owners of the league decided to defend the Phoenix team, stating no ownership group buying it could relocate it, bringing in terrible owner after terrible owner, being run by the league itself for 4 years, but wouldn't do the same for the Atlanta team, that has such a big TV market, has higher population, and they should now get a 3rd opportunity over said new markets? I guess all the owners ran phx together, or did the leaders of the NHL have to pick the people to put in place to run it?
The whole snarky retort about a dictatorship, along with most of your post, totally unnecessary. The commissioners of every major sports league have a huge voice in the ways and roads that it goes through. Or do you believe the owners of every other team love the fact that they have to pay twds a team currently 2 years in to playing in a 5k capacity arena, and probably still years out from an actual professional rink, because it's a great business model? Or could there be some sort of ulterior motive somewhere, which I will fully state, is pure speculation on my part. But I'd like to presume that in a corporation with multiple wings under its branch, that as a whole, there must be some persons of power with a specific agenda, that would allow a team that is going on almost 30 yrs of ineptitude, with the steadiest turnstile of questionable ownership to this day, to be protected as long as they have when a team so deserving of being kept like the thrashers, were allowed to peace the f*** out
You're
so close to getting it.
No I am terribly far away from any semblance of reality, that's why I'm here debating you on a forum for kicks.
