NHL prospect Landon Sim was suspended 5 games for calling player Mennonite.

[waitin425]

I'm imagining a league that becomes so soft that it becomes an insult to call someone a man. It is after all according to the definition -- a protected ground.

"nice hip check there...you...you....you...MAN!"

*****and the crowd falls silent and uncomfortable******

Player skates back to the bench.....tear in his eye.

"Coach...he called me a man.....what should I do"

Old School Coach..."get out there and show him who is a man!"

Player...."barbarian....I'm calling the leagues hotline to register a formal complaint!"

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

What’s ridiculous about it exactly? Too heavy a punishment? Too light? He broke the leagues code of conduct, which he should be aware of, and got the minimum penalty.

I didn't even know that was an insult, I'd argue to heavy.

I've seen worse things get less.

Maybe I'm missing something because like I said I didn't even know that was an insult, but this seems harsh.

 

[Ignatius]

I'm Orthodox and if someone used that as a slur, I would just be like... thanks!

 

[Phil Kessels Hot Dog]

A kid on my sons team got tackled from behind and was punched in the head repeatedly while on the ice. The other kid got 2 games.

On another team in our centre, a player got 7 games for calling someone a pu**y.

Crazy times we're living in.

 

[JPT]

You’re just saying it’s socially unacceptable and bigotry. That doesn’t make it so.

I find your line of thinking more insulting and offensive than anything said on the ice.

Awww

They've already explained their reasoning in a respectful manner. If you are offended, maybe that's a you problem. No one is saying that Mennonite can't be used as an insult. They're just saying if you do that, there's going to be consequences. That's how free speech works in practice. You can say a lot of dumb or bigoted shit, but there will be pushback. People shouldn't be protected from being idiots.

 

[waitin425]

According to a mennonite scholar...not even offended.

Mennonites 'more puzzled' than put off by OHL on-ice chirp: Expert

With a London Knight suspended five games for calling an opponent a 'Mennonite,' we asked a Mennonite scholar for his take on the story.

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[VistamarCroissants]

What's wrong with Mennonites? It's a Christian denomination. I woudn't be offended if someone calls me "Anglican". It's actually a compliment.

 

[Volica]

What's wrong with Mennonites? It's a Christian denomination. I woudn't be offended if someone calls me "Anglican". It's actually a compliment.

I don't think the insult was faith based, I think he was referring to the Mennonites you'll see at Walmart wearing plaid, overalls, six kids all dressed the same, wife in a picnic table pattern dress. Like, it's actually a creative insult and one that in a million years I wouldn't have thought of. If someone cut me off and then when I pulled up beside him called me a Mennonite, I think I'd probably laugh for a while and then reflect what he meant by that

 

[Brookbank]

Again, you're missing the point, Hyman is Jewish and Kadri is Muslim, they also follow the faith of being Jewish and Muslim. Are you equating a Mennonite as the same? Calling the player a Mennonite, disrespectful, sure, but equating it to the n-slur, or f-slur or a racial/ethnic slur, etc, no, don't give me that shit.

How the hell is taunting a practicing Mennonite different than taunting a practicing Muslim ?

Obviously if the taunted player was not a Mennonite, he wouldn't have taken offense.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

What’s ridiculous about it exactly? Too heavy a punishment? Too light? He broke the leagues code of conduct, which he should be aware of, and got the minimum penalty.

Probably the notion that you can nearly kill someone physically and get no suspension but this? Unacceptable!

 

[Brookbank]

What's wrong with Mennonites? It's a Christian denomination. I woudn't be offended if someone calls me "Anglican". It's actually a compliment.

Because the player was an actual Mennonite.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

So without looking through the whole thread was the player even a Mennonite or was he just a pacifist/peaceful player? If the latter I find it hard to believe Mennonites would be offended as I believe they take pride in their reputation as peaceful

 

[Otto]

According to a mennonite scholar...not even offended.

Mennonites 'more puzzled' than put off by OHL on-ice chirp: Expert

With a London Knight suspended five games for calling an opponent a 'Mennonite,' we asked a Mennonite scholar for his take on the story.

lfpress.com

A lot of people here seem to be of the belief that "Mennonite" was the only word used and there's no other context. Even Sims agent said "he used the word Mennonite" he didn't say "he called him a Mennonite" there's a lot more to the language used than simply being called a Mennonite. The OHL policy is laid out, all players are trained on it. Cross a line, 5 games. There's no picking and choosing which religions are covered. They all are

 

[Dubi Doo]

Nah, it’s still the guy complaining about a word on the internet.

Arguing on the internet makes tou sensitive. Not sure about soft.

 

[Frank Drebin]

A lot of people here seem to be of the belief that "Mennonite" was the only word used and there's no other context. Even Sims agent said "he used the word Mennonite" he didn't say "he called him a Mennonite" there's a lot more to the language used than simply being called a Mennonite. The OHL policy is laid out, all players are trained on it. Cross a line, 5 games. There's no picking and choosing which religions are covered. They all are

You either choose to understand the reasoning behind the suspension or you don’t

It’s not about hurt feelings, effectiveness of the insult or damage done

It’s about consistency and enforcement

 

[Otto]

You either choose to understand the reasoning behind the suspension or you don’t

It’s not about hurt feelings, effectiveness of the insult or damage done

It’s about consistency and enforcement

Um, ya.. that's kinda what I said

 

[Frank Drebin]

Um, ya.. that's kinda what I said

I was agreeing with you

 

[Otto]

I was agreeing with you

Sorry, misunderstood your intent

 

[abax44]

100%. It's hilariously stupid. If he didn't like the lame chirp attempt then he could always run him through the boards. Maybe he'll think twice about doing it next time. Then again by bringing it to light he gets publicly embarrassed over using such a lame chirp, maybe that's worse

Did the player complain, or did the official overhear and report it?

 

[Frank Drebin]

Did the player complain, or did the official overhear and report it?

How would that matter?

 

[abax44]

A lot of people here seem to be of the belief that "Mennonite" was the only word used and there's no other context. Even Sims agent said "he used the word Mennonite" he didn't say "he called him a Mennonite" there's a lot more to the language used than simply being called a Mennonite. The OHL policy is laid out, all players are trained on it. Cross a line, 5 games. There's no picking and choosing which religions are covered. They all are

Just another example of religion ruining something.

How would that matter?

It was a question. I asked it because I was curious. I was curious because I wanted some more context. I wanted some more context because I was curious...

Mostly I wanted to know if the player himself (can I say "him"?) was insulted, or if someone else was insulted for him.

 

[ThatGuy22]

I thought it was quackers who pacifists and anti violence?

The one thing to take away from his comments, is that at least he got creative

It was both, and a handful of other denominations. But calling some a 7th Day Adventist doesn't roll off the tongue as well as quacker or mennonite.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Just another example of religion ruining something.


It was a question. I asked it because I was curious. I was curious because I wanted some more context. I wanted some more context because I was curious...

Mostly I wanted to know if the player himself (can I say "him"?) was insulted, or if someone else was insulted for him.

So the player has to be insulted for it to be suspendable?

If a referee hears someone call someone an offensive slur but the intended target didn’t hear it, it’s ok because they couldn’t possibly be offended by something they didn’t hear?

If one player is not offended by any racial slurs, that makes it ok to use them on him?

It doesn’t matter

Nobody is offended on behalf of someone else here

It’s been explicitly explained to these players that you cannot insult someone based on religion, race, ethnicity, sexuality, creed etc

I’m not asking if you, or the majority of the population consider being called a mennonite offensive. You probably don’t. I don’t.

I’m asking, do you feel that mennonite falls into one of those above categories? Because to me it pretty clearly does

 

[abax44]

So the player has to be insulted for it to be suspendable?

If a referee hears someone call someone an offensive slur but the intended target didn’t hear it, it’s ok because they couldn’t possibly be offended by something they didn’t hear?

If one player is not offended by any racial slurs, that makes it ok to use them on him?

It doesn’t matter

Nobody is offended on behalf of someone else here

It’s been explicitly explained to these players that you cannot insult someone based on religion, race, ethnicity, sexuality, creed etc

I’m not asking if you, or the majority of the population consider being called a mennonite offensive. You probably don’t. I don’t.

I’m asking, do you feel that mennonite falls into one of those above categories? Because to me it pretty clearly does

Sweet Jesus, why are you reaching so hard?

I didn't say that. I didn't say anything, actually. I simply asked who heard him say it. I was, again, just curious.

By the rule, as it's written, it's a 5 game ban. Can't really argue that.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Sweet Jesus, why are you reaching so hard?

I didn't say that. I didn't say anything, actually. I simply asked who heard him say it. I was, again, just curious.

By the rule, as it's written, it's a 5 game ban. Can't really argue that.

Well you took the time to write out an obtuse explanation of why you asked who reported it when i asked why it would matter

So i figured you needed an explanation on why it doesn’t matter