NHL prospect Landon Sim was suspended 5 games for calling player Mennonite.

[x Tame Impala]

It’s about enforcement and consistency

How can you allow someone to call someone a f***ing mennonite but not a f***ing jew

How can you allow someone to call someone a f***ing Jew but not allow to call them a f***ing homosexual

I feel that if you can’t understand this and separate it from whatever you think i think about those types of insults it’s on you

By looking at things individually and not with a broad brush. OBVIOUSLY calling someone the n-word or f-slur is deemed horrendous and rightfully so. But as a society with free speech and the ability to look at things in context we don’t need an all encompassing rule. It’s stupid.

Way to make a way bigger deal out of something that probably caused zero harm to the player.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

The shit we said on the ice in JR B would now get us banned for life by the sounds of it

And what was it that you said on the ice?

I shit talked, but it never went past anything other than how shitty they played or how weak they were or at times just smiling and blowing a kiss to piss them off even more, especially in rugby. I heard a lot of racial shit for sure.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

It is definitionally not different at all.

Obviously the player was being taunted for being a Mennonite because he actually was a Mennonite. The chirping player didn't just pull Mennonite out of the air. He obviously knew the player.

So again, it is not different than calling Zak Hyman a f'ing Jew. Or Kadri a f'ing Muslim.

Again, you're missing the point, Hyman is Jewish and Kadri is Muslim, they also follow the faith of being Jewish and Muslim. Are you equating a Mennonite as the same? Calling the player a Mennonite, disrespectful, sure, but equating it to the n-slur, or f-slur or a racial/ethnic slur, etc, no, don't give me that shit.

Really?

Sim allegedly replied, “No you won’t; you’re too much of a p---y to do that.” At that point, the defenseman called over referee Joe Monette and told him what Sim had said. Monette then conferred with one of the linesmen, who confirmed what Sim had said and then gave Sim a game misconduct for unsportsmanlike conduct. The next day, the OHL suspended Sim five games for contravening the league’s diversity, maltreatment and bullying policy and its pre-game warm-up policy.

https://thehockeynews.com/news/opinion-whats-in-a-word-ohls-landon-sim-suspension-raises-questions

This btw, at worst should be a fine or a warning. A suspension for that? Then not only did they give Hay the same amount for a slur and then basically make excuses for him for it, they gave Sim another 5 for the mennonite comment.


His taunt was disrespectful. Ethan Hay got 5 games for calling a black player a slur, that's the kind of shit I used to hear yelled at me by players and parents, he got 5 games. Sim got 5 games for calling a player a Mennonite, that's not the same. The AHL got it right with Hrabik's 30 game suspension, the OHL is wishy washy as f*** with theirs, it's 5 for a bizarre cultural taunt? Yet Sim's suspension last year for calling a player the "P" word was the same amount of games. The OHL has set precedents before but then do some of the dumbest shit imaginable in a league that is already rife with sexual assault.

Treating a cultural slur and a derogatory comment like Sim did last season as the same 5 games, the same as Ethan Hay uttering a racial slur, then back in 2014, they gave DeAngelo 8 games for his as a repeat offender, yeah the OHL is a joke. They claimed Ethan Hay uttered the racial slur as an "accident" ...oh really? Must be by accident when I was called the same shit by blokes that looked like Ethan Hay.

Hockey Canada is largely a joke with how they handle a lot of things.

Mitchell, 20, said that during a Dec. 17 Junior B league game, a player on the Vipers made an anti-Asian comment toward one of Mitchell’s Sherwood Metros teammates. Mitchell said he was not comfortable revealing what was said by the other player.

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www.sportsnet.ca

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kitchener.ctvnews.ca

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/pei-connors-racist-incident-decision-1.6347931

Oh and Teams are routinely drafting players that utter racial slurs prioritizing talent over character, hell Mitchell Miller was drafted, found out to be a fraud, then Boston signed him anyway and claimed ignorance of knowing any of what happened and then Vegas drafts Connolly, Tampa drafts Hay (Tampa sure loves their racists). DeAngelo played in the NHL for quite some time, Binnington and his racist shit, etc, etc. John Vanbiesbrouck and his incident with Daley, apparently just gotta wait it out and get a job again with US Hockey, like Peters slowly inching his way back. An idiot like Galchenyuk was rightfully booted.

 

[waitin425]

I'm imagining a league that becomes so soft that it becomes an insult to call someone a man. It is after all according to the definition -- a protected ground.

"nice hip check there...you...you....you...MAN!"

*****and the crowd falls silent and uncomfortable******

Player skates back to the bench.....tear in his eye.

"Coach...he called me a man.....what should I do"

Old School Coach..."get out there and show him who is a man!"

Player...."barbarian....I'm calling the leagues hotline to register a formal complaint!"

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

What’s ridiculous about it exactly? Too heavy a punishment? Too light? He broke the leagues code of conduct, which he should be aware of, and got the minimum penalty.

I didn't even know that was an insult, I'd argue to heavy.

I've seen worse things get less.

Maybe I'm missing something because like I said I didn't even know that was an insult, but this seems harsh.

 

[Ignatius]

I'm Orthodox and if someone used that as a slur, I would just be like... thanks!

 

[Phil Kessels Hot Dog]

A kid on my sons team got tackled from behind and was punched in the head repeatedly while on the ice. The other kid got 2 games.

On another team in our centre, a player got 7 games for calling someone a pu**y.

Crazy times we're living in.

 

[JPT]

You’re just saying it’s socially unacceptable and bigotry. That doesn’t make it so.

I find your line of thinking more insulting and offensive than anything said on the ice.

Awww

They've already explained their reasoning in a respectful manner. If you are offended, maybe that's a you problem. No one is saying that Mennonite can't be used as an insult. They're just saying if you do that, there's going to be consequences. That's how free speech works in practice. You can say a lot of dumb or bigoted shit, but there will be pushback. People shouldn't be protected from being idiots.

 

[waitin425]

According to a mennonite scholar...not even offended.

Mennonites 'more puzzled' than put off by OHL on-ice chirp: Expert

With a London Knight suspended five games for calling an opponent a 'Mennonite,' we asked a Mennonite scholar for his take on the story.

lfpress.com

 

[VistamarCroissants]

What's wrong with Mennonites? It's a Christian denomination. I woudn't be offended if someone calls me "Anglican". It's actually a compliment.

 

[Volica]

What's wrong with Mennonites? It's a Christian denomination. I woudn't be offended if someone calls me "Anglican". It's actually a compliment.

I don't think the insult was faith based, I think he was referring to the Mennonites you'll see at Walmart wearing plaid, overalls, six kids all dressed the same, wife in a picnic table pattern dress. Like, it's actually a creative insult and one that in a million years I wouldn't have thought of. If someone cut me off and then when I pulled up beside him called me a Mennonite, I think I'd probably laugh for a while and then reflect what he meant by that

 

[Brookbank]

Again, you're missing the point, Hyman is Jewish and Kadri is Muslim, they also follow the faith of being Jewish and Muslim. Are you equating a Mennonite as the same? Calling the player a Mennonite, disrespectful, sure, but equating it to the n-slur, or f-slur or a racial/ethnic slur, etc, no, don't give me that shit.

How the hell is taunting a practicing Mennonite different than taunting a practicing Muslim ?

Obviously if the taunted player was not a Mennonite, he wouldn't have taken offense.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

What’s ridiculous about it exactly? Too heavy a punishment? Too light? He broke the leagues code of conduct, which he should be aware of, and got the minimum penalty.

Probably the notion that you can nearly kill someone physically and get no suspension but this? Unacceptable!

 

[Brookbank]

What's wrong with Mennonites? It's a Christian denomination. I woudn't be offended if someone calls me "Anglican". It's actually a compliment.

Because the player was an actual Mennonite.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

So without looking through the whole thread was the player even a Mennonite or was he just a pacifist/peaceful player? If the latter I find it hard to believe Mennonites would be offended as I believe they take pride in their reputation as peaceful

 

[Otto]

According to a mennonite scholar...not even offended.

Mennonites 'more puzzled' than put off by OHL on-ice chirp: Expert

With a London Knight suspended five games for calling an opponent a 'Mennonite,' we asked a Mennonite scholar for his take on the story.

lfpress.com

A lot of people here seem to be of the belief that "Mennonite" was the only word used and there's no other context. Even Sims agent said "he used the word Mennonite" he didn't say "he called him a Mennonite" there's a lot more to the language used than simply being called a Mennonite. The OHL policy is laid out, all players are trained on it. Cross a line, 5 games. There's no picking and choosing which religions are covered. They all are

 

[Dubi Doo]

Nah, it’s still the guy complaining about a word on the internet.

Arguing on the internet makes tou sensitive. Not sure about soft.

 

[Frank Drebin]

A lot of people here seem to be of the belief that "Mennonite" was the only word used and there's no other context. Even Sims agent said "he used the word Mennonite" he didn't say "he called him a Mennonite" there's a lot more to the language used than simply being called a Mennonite. The OHL policy is laid out, all players are trained on it. Cross a line, 5 games. There's no picking and choosing which religions are covered. They all are

You either choose to understand the reasoning behind the suspension or you don’t

It’s not about hurt feelings, effectiveness of the insult or damage done

It’s about consistency and enforcement

 

[waitin425]

A lot of people here seem to be of the belief that "Mennonite" was the only word used and there's no other context. Even Sims agent said "he used the word Mennonite" he didn't say "he called him a Mennonite" there's a lot more to the language used than simply being called a Mennonite. The OHL policy is laid out, all players are trained on it. Cross a line, 5 games. There's no picking and choosing which religions are covered. They all are

Can't wait for someone to get 5 games for calling someone a stupid scientologist.

 

[Otto]

You either choose to understand the reasoning behind the suspension or you don’t

It’s not about hurt feelings, effectiveness of the insult or damage done

It’s about consistency and enforcement

Um, ya.. that's kinda what I said