GDT: NHL Entry Draft | Day 2

[The Vasili Jerry]

They were talking about it on the broadcast that teams only have a list of about 40-80 players. Mostly less than 60.

 

[WTG]

I’m guessing 99% of the posters just pretend that they know these prospects selected past the first 3 rounds
Hell, I highly doubt pro nhl scouts know more than 100 prospects each year

I tried watching the Canucks top 5 prospects once and that was already insanely hard.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

90% of scouts pretend they know these players after the first 3 rounds.

Oh I agree
There’s no way anyone fully knows more than 100 prospects each year

 

[Melvin]

They were talking about it on the broadcast that teams only have a list of about 40-80 players. Mostly less than 60.

That doesn't make any sense.

 

[ziploc]

90% of scouts pretend they know these players after the first 3 rounds.

It's kind of refreshing that Delorme doesn't even pretend to know.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

That doesn't make any sense.

It does
60 doesn’t sound a lot on a message board but in reality that’s a lot of hockey players scatter around the world

 

[The Vasili Jerry]

That doesn't make any sense.

That's their list. I don't know how much they know about the rest of the players, but they don't go in with a 200+ player list of who should go where.

 

[GetFocht]

Connor Lockhart seems interesting, selected 3rd overall in OHL draft and kept up with McTavish all the way to his rookie season in the OHL. He didn't play at all during this past season, next year will be very interesting for him on where his development stands. Could be a steal.

 

[clay]

I like the Lockhart pick in the 6th round. Skilled centre who would have been picked higher with a full OHL season played.

 

[Melvin]

Peter Reynolds have some sort of off-ice thing going on? Was top-100 most lists, PPG player in the Q.

 

[WTG]

It does
60 doesn’t sound a lot on a message board but in reality that’s a lot of hockey players scatter around the world

Maybe it’s 60 players that they actually have thorough scouting reports on. With travel restrictions it must be hard to scout some of these guys. Plus the CHL guys haven’t played. I can see it happening. Especially to teams like Buffalo who I believe have a tiny scouting department.

 

[Melvin]

That's their list. I don't know how much they know about the rest of the players, but they don't go in with a 200+ player list of who should go where.

But I am sure they have a database with 10,000 players in it, just like I do.

 

[The Vasili Jerry]

But I am sure they have a database with 10,000 players in it, just like I do.

I would hope so. If someone is a pro scout and that's their entire job, then only knowing a handful of players really well would be doing a lousy job. I'm assuming they only have 60 or so players that they absolutely know well and are excited about. There's really no need to put a player on their list that they just don't want to draft.

 

[WTG]

But I am sure they have a database with 10,000 players in it, just like I do.

Considering the pride, old boys nepotism, and stats phobia in the NHL. I think it’s imaginable that these guys avoid databases. We aren’t talking about a bunch of Harvard educated execs here.

 

[MS]

Lockhart seems like the kinda player @MS was talking about

Yup. That’s an excellent pick.

 

[StickShift]

Not great. He was playing in the 3rd tier Swedish league. To be fair, Alex Edler had the same production in the same league when he was drafted, so that's probably convincing to Benning.

He was Simon Edvinsson's D partner most of the year, apparently?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Not great. He was playing in the 3rd tier Swedish league. To be fair, Alex Edler had the same production in the same league when he was drafted, so that's probably convincing to Benning.

He was playing in the J20 league. Half the guys in that league went to play 3rd tier because J20 suspended play. He was there because Covid.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Yup. That’s an excellent pick.

Lockhart > Almqvist?

 

[Melvin]

He was playing in the J20 league. Half the guys in that league went to play 3rd tier because J20 suspended play. He was there because Covid.

I realize that. He gets credit for the J20 stats as well.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I realize that. He gets credit for the J20 stats as well.

Okay. Just noticed Myrenberg played Ettan as well. So did 'that guy' Montreal picked.

 

[WTG]

A little off topic but.... Listening to the Benning and Daniel interviews Boeser doesn’t seem to be getting moved anytime soon. They both talked about how they were thin on right shot forwards and saw Garland as a fix for them.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

A little off topic but.... Listening to the Benning and Daniel interviews Boeser doesn’t seem to be getting moved anytime soon. They both talked about how they were thin on right shot forwards and saw Garland as a fix for them.

Brock Boeser is just like William Nylander
Both are young RW out performing their contract, gets traded by media every off season

 

[WTG]

Lockhart drafted 3rd overall in the OHL entry draft. Is this particularly good? Do high CHL drafting usually pan out in the NHL or are they not really that big to look into?

 

[Melvin]

Okay. Just noticed Myrenberg played Ettan as well. So did 'that guy' Montreal picked.

Like you said a lot of players had games in both; most of them put up pretty similar production between their J20 and the Ettan. It doesn't seem like the league strength is all that different. Gabrielson sort of sticks out as his production fell a lot in the Ettan.

 

[canucksfan100]

Lockhart drafted 3rd overall in the OHL entry draft. Is this particularly good? Do high CHL drafting usually pan out in the NHL or are they not really that big to look into?

Goes both ways honestly. At worst I'd say most carve out some sort of professional career whether it be AHL or overseas as the floor