GDT: NHL draft lottery

[KingsFan7824]

Gents, just wanted to stop by and say you deserved a top 3 pick way more than we did. You deserved it a **** ton more that Chicago ever will. **** that system.

- Avs fan

Deserve's got nothing to do with it.

It's like endlessly complaining about refs blowing a specific call. It's like complaining about the point system. It's like complaining about the playoff format. At the beginning of the season, everyone knows what the rules are. Refs are going to miss calls. Some team is going to inch its way into the playoff because of an incorrectly labeled loser point. You play who you play in the playoffs, deal with it.

If a given system changes at some point, so be it. If there are problems, bring them up when something can be done about it. Currently, it is what it is, and you just have to accept the results. Plenty of good players have been taken 5th, and plenty of players taken 2nd have failed. The best player in this draft could end up being the 43rd pick.

 

[Pandaman11]

I just knew we'd inherit Vancouver's bad luck.

I hope we don't draft the next Thomas Hickey. An embarrassing season and in the end it was good for nothing? My hope is a future star at 5th (duh) + Spencer Knight with the Toronto pick.

But oh well, you could do worse. Colorado has now twice fallen from 1st to 4th.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Deserve's got nothing to do with it.

It's like endlessly complaining about refs blowing a specific call. It's like complaining about the point system. It's like complaining about the playoff format. At the beginning of the season, everyone knows what the rules are. Refs are going to miss calls. Some team is going to inch its way into the playoff because of an incorrectly labeled loser point. You play who you play in the playoffs, deal with it.

If a given system changes at some point, so be it. If there are problems, bring them up when something can be done about it. Currently, it is what it is, and you just have to accept the results. Plenty of good players have been taken 5th, and plenty of players taken 2nd have failed. The best player in this draft could end up being the 43rd pick.

Alright. Who you got at 43?

 

[fivehole32]

I listened to Yanetti last night too, and it was telling that he wasn't thrilled when the Kings drafted for need. Sheer will and determination can sometime project guys higher in their careers and make them NHL mainstays. Sure you have to have a solid skill set, but with younger players you are only seeing the beginning of a maturation process. Slotting draft picks for roster spots the next year is kind of crazy because the players that can do that and be successful are the 1% of the 1%.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Deserve's got nothing to do with it.

It's like endlessly complaining about refs blowing a specific call. It's like complaining about the point system. It's like complaining about the playoff format. At the beginning of the season, everyone knows what the rules are. Refs are going to miss calls. Some team is going to inch its way into the playoff because of an incorrectly labeled loser point. You play who you play in the playoffs, deal with it.

If a given system changes at some point, so be it. If there are problems, bring them up when something can be done about it. Currently, it is what it is, and you just have to accept the results. Plenty of good players have been taken 5th, and plenty of players taken 2nd have failed. The best player in this draft could end up being the 43rd pick.

I usually agree with you, but the chance at drafting a potentially franchise altering player is really not the same as a ref blowing a call.

The current system is wildly chaotic. A team should not be able to jump nine spots into the top three based purely on RNG. That’s just ridiculous.

They need to increase the odds of the bottom five teams. Or get rid of the system altogether and go back to a lottery for the first overall alone.

 

[KingsHockey24]

We have three picks in the top 33.

 

[Chazz Reinhold]

I listened to Yanetti last night too, and it was telling that he wasn't thrilled when the Kings drafted for need. Sheer will and determination can sometime project guys higher in their careers and make them NHL mainstays. Sure you have to have a solid skill set, but with younger players you are only seeing the beginning of a maturation process. Slotting draft picks for roster spots the next year is kind of crazy because the players that can do that and be successful are the 1% of the 1%.

Do you have a link to the Yannetti interview?

 

[KingsHockey24]

Do you have a link to the Yannetti interview?

It was on the radio, I assume it's been recorded somewhere.

 

[KopitarFAN]

It was on the radio, I assume it's been recorded somewhere.

Yea, Jesse Cohen said he will be putting up that whole show they did yesterday.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

I just keep feeling that Byram is the best of a good but not great group of Dman and I would rather have a guy like Dach, Turcotte or Cozens since we really have a dearth of scorers and I think that we can get a decent Dman with our 2nd first rounder if need be.

He is rated there because of skills.

26 goals and not just an offensive player. More than decent size too.

You have said this a couple of times. You think scouting services rate him so high, just because the crop of defensemen isnt very good this year or what am I missing ?

I would understand you if they rated forwards and defensemen separately. Now I dont understand it.

 

[kings11]

5th- Alex Turcotte
24th- Bobby Brink
33rd- Nolan Foote

 

[KopitarFAN]

I see a lot to like about Kirby Dach, a pretty good skater unlike you would expect for someone growing into that frame, and he'll be a brick shit house when he's done developing.

Here's a shift by shift from earlier this season:

 

[Little Psycho]

 

[SettlementRichie10]

The snarky novelty of the Kings twitter account really wore off once we started sucking, but this is great.

 

[BigBrown]

Recent history of 5th overall picks.

2018 Barrett Hayton
2017 Elias Pettersson
2016 Olli Juolevi
2015 Noah Hanifin
2013 Elias Lindholm
2012 Morgan Rielly
2011 Ryan Strome
2010 Nino Niederreiter
2009 Brayden Schenn
2008 Luke Schenn
2007 Karl Alzner
2006 Phil Kessel
2005 Carey Price
2004 Blake Wheeler
2003 Thomas Vanek
2002 Ryan Whitney
2001 Stanislav Chistov
2000 Raffi Torres

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Recent history of 5th overall picks.

2018 Barrett Hayton
2017 Elias Pettersson
2016 Olli Juolevi
2015 Noah Hanifin
2013 Elias Lindholm
2012 Morgan Rielly
2011 Ryan Strome
2010 Nino Niederreiter
2009 Brayden Schenn
2008 Luke Schenn
2007 Karl Alzner
2006 Phil Kessel
2005 Carey Price
2004 Blake Wheeler
2003 Thomas Vanek
2002 Ryan Whitney
2001 Stanislav Chistov
2000 Raffi Torres

Gross.

 

[saintsnsoldiers]

Just wow.

There is a great pick left for us @ 5.

Byram, Cozens or Turcotte is ours.

Hopefully not Dach.

Consensus was Dach was killing last night. Dont know much about either Cozens or Datch though. I need to start doing some home work on both since its likely we take one of them.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

Consensus was Dach was killing last night. Dont know much about either Cozens or Datch though. I need to start doing some home work on both since its likely we take one of them.

Saw a lot of Dach the last week.

I dont think his shot is that good and IMO he scores a lot of garbage goals because of his excellent reach and strength. Which is more difficult in the NHL. Skating is good but not very good.

I dont see Vilardi like passes. Assists with a wow factor.

No I am not sold.

 

[fivehole32]

Do you have a link to the Yannetti interview?

I was listening to All the Kings Men live podcast on IHEARTRADIO. I am sure they will have it archived on there. The Yanetti part was in the second half of the broadcast and lasted about 15 minutes or so.

 

[kingsfan28]

Oh wow, Burke went on an epic rant about the draft lottery results on Sportsnet! f***ing beautiful! He's furious about NJ gets the 2 top picks in 3 year, and the Hawks moving up 12 places! I swear there was steam coming out of his ears!

 

[AzKing]

He is rated there because of skills.

26 goals and not just an offensive player. More than decent size too.

You have said this a couple of times. You think scouting services rate him so high, just because the crop of defensemen isnt very good this year or what am I missing ?

I would understand you if they rated forwards and defensemen separately. Now I dont understand it.

I have been doing a lot of research on him and I think that he is a solid player. I feel that overall, the Dmen class is good but not elite and he is the best of a good class. Most projections have him as a top 2 but not a #1. I will not be angry if the Kings draft him at all. Most likely, we can get a good Defenseman with our next pick though.

I feel that the next tier of Dmen are all clustered up and if they don't go in rapid succession, one of them will be there at our 2nd first round pick. The Forwards seem to start really dropping off once you get out of the top 1/3 of the draft.

 

[kilowatt]

Link to all the All The Kings Men podcasts: All the Kings Men Podcast - Official LA Kings Podcast

 

[KingsCourt]

Oh wow, Burke went on an epic rant about the draft lottery results on Sportsnet! ****ing beautiful! He's furious about NJ gets the 2 top picks in 3 year, and the Hawks moving up 12 places! I swear there was steam coming out of his ears!

ya heard a bit...I hate Burke, but for once I agree, not because it affected the kings, just makes no sense, a team slides up 12 spots
The draft serves to help weaker teams

 

[AzKing]

Good article from the Blackhawks perspective: https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/b...-potential-candidates-blackhawks-no-3-overall

 

[AnThGrt]

Just hoping someone takes Cozens before us yet alone let Podkolzin drop to us. Honestly getting top 2 would have been nice yet preference separates 4-10. Happy with most all the pieces, but would be most disappointed of the choices if we went with Cozens yet alone if one of Dach, Turcotte, or Zegras were still there, which is guaranteed. I'd not remotely be opposed to drafting Byram if there at 5 and going forwards with the next two picks.