Hawkaholic
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Probably, but they sometimes come to an agreement before hand and dont pay the full salary depending on the situation. I think they just wanted to get rid of him off their team regardless of what it costs was my point.
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Sillinger was a piece in that Seth Jones trade right? I know it’s a controversial trade but I’d be remiss to point out it doesn’t seem like these picks are panning out into can’t miss superstars.
The deal was basically Jones for Boqvist, Sillinger, and Jiricek yeah? I’m on my phone so can’t dig up the details. Sillinger still has a ton of potential of course as does Jiricek so it may be too early for an ultimate evaluation.
With that said, it’s looking like we’ll get the best player in the trade and that like I’ve been hypothesizing…picks and prospects are mostly overrated.
The deal was basically Jones for Boqvist, Sillinger, and Jiricek yeah? I’m on my phone so can’t dig up the details. Sillinger still has a ton of potential of course as does Jiricek so it may be too early for an ultimate evaluation.
With that said, it’s looking like we’ll get the best player in the trade and that like I’ve been hypothesizing…picks and prospects are mostly overrated.
Hawkaholic
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But they could have been a worse team than 6th last, without Jones, without Fleury, etc. if they decided to rebuild instead of retool.
Could have had a top 5 pick and got Nemec, Slaf, Cooley, or Gauthier. Also, no guarantee they pick Sillinger if they had that pick, could have had Wallstedt, or Wyatt Johnston instead. Not to mention, wouldnt be stuck with Jones shitty contract for 7 more years, but, we also could have missed out on Bedard without Jones. That's the main thing really, no Bedard if we dont trade for Jones, probably, so whatever.
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the trade was always more or less a wash in my eyes. it was the extension that was the problem.
Blackhawkswincup
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To
D Adam Boqvist
1st round pick in 2021 (12th overall) - Jackets selected Cole Sillinger
2nd round pick in 2021 (44th overall) - Jackets traded it to Carolina for D Jake Bean
1st round pick in 2022 (6th overall) - Jackets selected David Jiricek
To
D Seth Jones
1st round pick in 2021 (32nd overall) - Hawks selected Nolan Allan
6th round pick in 2022 (173rd overall) - Hawks selected Dominic James
Boqvist (Buyout) and Bean (Left via FA) are now out of Jackets organization
So Hawks have Jones + Allan + James left on roster or in system from trade and Jackets have Sillinger and Jiricek
Hattrick Kane
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As it was said above, as of this moment, the trade is completely fair. Now if Jiricek becomes a #1 stud, then not so much.To
D Adam Boqvist
1st round pick in 2021 (12th overall) - Jackets selected Cole Sillinger
2nd round pick in 2021 (44th overall) - Jackets traded it to Carolina for D Jake Bean
1st round pick in 2022 (6th overall) - Jackets selected David Jiricek
To
D Seth Jones
1st round pick in 2021 (32nd overall) - Hawks selected Nolan Allan
6th round pick in 2022 (173rd overall) - Hawks selected Dominic James
Boqvist (Buyout) and Bean (Left via FA) are now out of Jackets organization
So Hawks have Jones + Allan + James left on roster or in system from trade and Jackets have Sillinger and Jiricek
The issue comes with the contract they threw at Jones.
Hawkaholic
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Considering we gave up all that, he really only wanted to go to the Hawks, and Stars (who couldn't afford him), and he only had 1 year left on his deal before they could have got him for free, they still paid way too much for him in the trade, and signing him. Could have used those assets to acquire players more in the rebuild timeline.
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Blackhawkswincup
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Pens get a guy more NHL ready, but Jets get a still good similar prospect in return
I would say fair for both sides
I would say fair for both sides
I like McGroaty more than Yager (bigger center verses a smaller winger), but a good job by Chevy to salvage a bad situation where I guy don't want to play for your team.
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Yager and McGroarty are similar level players. McGroarty might be more equipped for the NHL though.
Either way, a good save for Winnipeg.
Either way, a good save for Winnipeg.
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Connor BeJesus
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That is actually a solid trade for Winnipeg considering the circumstance.
Hawkaholic
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Both 14 overall picks, Yager from 2023, Rutger from 2022. Yager is signed, so WPG doesn't have to worry about that at least. I think they did really well considering the circumstance.
Blackhawkswincup
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It was self-inflicted wound by Jets management though
Not sure they should get credit for being the reason entire situation came about
Not sure they should get credit for being the reason entire situation came about
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Sounds like things have been going really well in Columbus the last few years.....
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Seems like it would have cost us Nazar to get McGroarty.
I'm glad we weren't involved in that trade.
I'm glad we weren't involved in that trade.
Putt Pirate
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They really need to do better communicating. They wouldn't even give him one single game last year to burn a year. So this is all on Jets mgmt if they did not communicate their plans form the start and through his development.
Blackhawkswincup
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They also can't use the "We were in race for division, etc" excuse because Devils were in same position when signing Hughes and played him in a few games (Including playoffs)
And they played guys like Axel Johnsson-Fjallby and David Gustafsson to end year and in playoffs
High draft picks are now routinely signing deals (Also other NCAA players) getting in some games to end year
Jets dont want to do that, fine but dont be shocked when a high value prospect pulls this
Same thing happened with Cutter who was ready to sign with Flyers and get in NHL games only for Flyers to say "Not interested" and saw relationship with player go down gutter
TLEH
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I'm not a McGroarty guy personally. I think Winnipeg did really well there. I like Yager more.
ColbyChaos
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At the worst Moore feel like Frank is above Yager as things stand right now
ColbyChaos
I am a made up country
Sounds like things have been going really well in Columbus the last few years.....
Spilled Tea: Radio Interview Details Past Locker Room Issues For Patrik Laine, Blue Jackets
Aaron Portzline joined 97.1 The Fan on Tuesday morning and it was a fascinating look into past issues within the Blue Jackets locker room.
Well deserved after how unbearable that fanbase was from the Saad trades and the Jones trades. Funny seeing Jarmos legacy do a 180
Blackhawkswincup
RIP Fugu
clydesdale line
Connor BeJesus
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San Jose was a rumored team along with 2-3 others. Very good gamble by them.
Blackhawkswincup
RIP Fugu
Yep, trying to find long-term stability in net they have lacked since Nabokov
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Connor BeJesus
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Nashville gets Edstrom + Vegas 1st (cond.). They did very well.
Edstrom has now been traded twice and he's not even in the states yet.
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