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No Fun Shogun
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Did he just pull a move that a third of fans online claim that they’d pull if a rival drafted them?
For the record Blues, I’ll wear your gear while modding for a three year ELC.
For the record Blues, I’ll wear your gear while modding for a three year ELC.
Blackhawkswincup
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I don't understand how it's a haul. A small, oft-injured offensive defenseman, and 2nd rounder. Adam Boqvist, basically?
JaegerDice
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18 games in the last two seasons. Under 6'0. Like a buck eighty five... Meh. He's Adam Boqvist, but a bit better defensively. It sure as f*** isn't a haul. This guy might not be in the NHL in two years.
Blackhawkswincup
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Best you can say is Flyers salvaged some value and got a guy with upside, but major concerns given health
Given talent Ducks have in system getting Gauthier makes sense for them and upside is higher on their end IMO
We shall see how it pans out but yet another player who wanted nothing to do with Flyers is not good look.
Also, kids' decision probably was made easier with how Torts is dicking around Frost and other kids on Flyers.
Given talent Ducks have in system getting Gauthier makes sense for them and upside is higher on their end IMO
We shall see how it pans out but yet another player who wanted nothing to do with Flyers is not good look.
Also, kids' decision probably was made easier with how Torts is dicking around Frost and other kids on Flyers.
A team starving for defense, traded one of their most promising defensive prospects. I mean....it kind of speaks for itself.
TLEH
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They’ve got a pretty deep defensive prospect pool and cutter is a unique prospect.
Drysdale has all world skating. Boqvist never had that. I think both guys are a bit of question marks to me. Extremely talented but with some flaws.
TLEH
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Hawkaholic
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Drysdale is not that good defensively, and they have a ton of guys like him in their pipeline. Mintyukovs progression made him expendable and he's always hurt. Drysdale going to Philly isn't going to be good for him, nor the Flyers. Torts will hate his style of play and he'll be healthy scratched by him in no time.
TLEH
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Doing some more reading.. seems like they got told after the World Championships last year. What likely happened was that BC season ended, Cutter believed he would join Flyers and had enough time to play 10 games and burn ELC. Flyers wouldn't guarantee him that so he didn't sign and after that it all went downhill.
You can argue both sides (10 games is a lot to just guarantee a guy, especially if he cannot hack it) OR
Philly wasn't winning anything last year and 10 games for a top prospect are solid either way.
You can argue both sides (10 games is a lot to just guarantee a guy, especially if he cannot hack it) OR
Philly wasn't winning anything last year and 10 games for a top prospect are solid either way.
Hawkaholic
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TLEH
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Verbeek has been in Anaheim like.. two years or so? I imagine that ELC arguments would make more sense as the timeline lines up perfectly.
The Torts thing certainly I could understand.
The Torts thing certainly I could understand.
Hattrick Kane
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Can’t say I agree. Drysdale is probably one of their better defenders at this point. Trying to rely on a guy like Zellweger to defend will be catastrophic for that team, he can’t defend worth a damn. Lacombe is in the running for the green jacket and apparently Luneau has some kind of knee infection he’s still working through which is a little scary.
They aren’t stacked on D like you might think. They don’t have size and they aren’t particularly good defenders, which is probably how you want to build. Their junior numbers sure look pretty though.
Hawkaholic
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I think Mintyukov is a better defender than Drysdale already.
It's easier to find guys who can play in their own zone than guys who can be great offensively. Yes, he was one of their better ones, but he still isn't that good at it. I never said they were stacked on D, just that they have similar defensemen in their prospect pool, guys who are good offensively, and questionable on D.
He was playing almost 22 minutes a night. Only Cam Fowler was getting more ice time.
Their D corp:
Fowler
Drysdale
LaCombe
Gudas
Mintyukov
Lyubushkin
Vaakanainen
Doesn't really strike me as trading from superior depth.
TLEH
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LaCombe is young and developing, Mintyukov is 19 is pretty damn good.
They've got Luneau another RD that is 19 playing really well NHL/AHL. They've got Zellweger who was a dynamic scorer in the WHL and just under PPG in the AHL @ 20. Rodwin Dionicio had a pretty good tournament for Switzerland as a bigger LD. He's a lesser known guy but I think he has big upside.
Maybe they were just sick of his injuries and saw an opportunity to get a unique prospect in Gauthier. Certainly a type of player that gets Verbeek horny. I personally think like what I've seen more from Drysdale than Gauthier but I'm just some jackass on a message board. I just think Drysdale has way more tools than Boqvist had. Boqvist was small and not a dynamic skater.
Boqvist is bigger than Drysdale(!!), but yes. Drysdale is a better skater than Boqvist. We will see. I would bet on Gauthier having a better NHL career. Even if his goal scoring doesn't translate, he's a big body who can skate.
But we're diverging from the point I was making. This trade was not a "haul" for Philly. It's a huge gamble.
TLEH
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Yeah true. Its not a haul. If anything they are both still question marks at the NHL level and Anaheim gave up the extra 2nd.
Blackhawkswincup
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The Flyers offseason including turning down offers on Laughton did not help Briere look good either
And Cates (Before injury), Frost and other kids getting dicked around by Torts this year probably further cemented his decision
DisgruntledHawkFan
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Gauthier is gonna stick in the NHL I just don't see a ton of upside. He reminds me of Chad Kilger. And a nineteen year old not wanting to sign with a franchise because of a rookie GM is lunacy if that's true.
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