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Clownish

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Yeah, I hear ya - shows how difficult it is to make the postseason.
Each time I see the Rangers play this season, which hasn't been that often but I think their record should be better. Of course, it isn't even December yet - lots of hockey to be played.
What's the deal with Laf not being the second coming yet? I thought "Lafrienerre, boys" was the mantra to take the Hawks to the promised land. Then it was crappo for Kakko. He's not setting the world on fire yet either. Oh, right, the Hawks were actually supposed to lose every night for Shane Wright. THAT'S the move for the next big thing in hockey.
 
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ClydeLee

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What's the deal with Laf not being the second coming yet? I thought "Lafrienerre, boys" was the mantra to take the Hawks to the promised land. Then it was crappo for Kakko. He's not setting the world on fire yet either. Oh, right, the Hawks were actually supposed to lose every night for Shane Wright. THAT'S the move for the next big thing in hockey.
I dont get this... no he wasn't.

If you think this honestly. You're not well defining the differences between considered the goto likely #1 vs considered the elite talent. Novody has been thought of that high since Mathews, Mcdavid, & Eichel.
 
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JaegerDice

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What's the deal with Laf not being the second coming yet? I thought "Lafrienerre, boys" was the mantra to take the Hawks to the promised land. Then it was crappo for Kakko. He's not setting the world on fire yet either. Oh, right, the Hawks were actually supposed to lose every night for Shane Wright. THAT'S the move for the next big thing in hockey.

Outside of Crosby, McDavid and arguably Ovechkin, there is no one lottery pick that will turn your franchise around. That’s why you aim to be bad for several years and pick as high as possible in all of them, and get as many picks as possible. Cause you don’t need one guy, you need an army.
 

Clownish

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Outside of Crosby, McDavid and arguably Ovechkin, there is no one lottery pick that will turn your franchise around. That’s why you aim to be bad for several years and pick as high as possible in all of them, and get as many picks as possible. Cause you don’t need one guy, you need an army.
I agree with that, but my original post was more mocking the idea of losing as much as you can year after year until some undetermined time at which the franchise is then "going for it". The Hawks had a solid draft class last year, even though they weren't where the tank crowd would've liked for them to be picking. Solid draft classes year over year are how you build a team, not perpetually waving the white flag or trading anyone who plays winning hockey for 4th round picks.
 
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JaegerDice

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I agree with that, but my original post was more mocking the idea of losing as much as you can year after year until some undetermined time at which the franchise is then "going for it". The Hawks had a solid draft class last year, even though they weren't where the tank crowd would've liked for them to be picking. Solid draft classes year over year are how you build a team, not perpetually waving the white flag or trading anyone who plays winning hockey for 4th round picks.

I agree with that in principle, but the Blackhawks in particular havent actually done so until now. Most diehard fans would rather see something resembling a long-term plan than a yearly off-season patch-job ensuring only mediocrity.

The truth is, if the wanted to retool, they should have started in 2015 when some of their older players were cresting the aging curve. By 2017, a full-blown rebuild was in order. They waited 5 more years of failure to finally pull the trigger. And now we’re at the point where some of the better players, dont fit the timeline, so you may as well sell high now rather than wait til they get older, more expensive, and less valuable in a trade.

The only guy the Hawks have shipped out that you could argue they should have kept was Dach, but it seems pretty clear both player and team were done with each other. Toews and Kane have aged well into ‘complementary piece’ territory, and you couldnt move Jones with a Space shuttle. So the Blackhawks are in the unique situation where selling off everything that isnt bolted down is nit only wise…its frankly overdue.
 
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JaegerDice

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Chris Pronger, one of the most viscious, intimidating SOBs to ever lace them up in the NHL on Sportsnet looking like a high school librarian.

Father time humbles us all.
 
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JaegerDice

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Concussions in his case. He has major issues still stemming from concussions. It is scary what CTE and head injuries in general do to people.

Oh he’s still alert and well spoken, he just has a hairline receding to the back og his skull and is in glasses and a sweater vest.

But yes, CTE is terrifying, and I hope he continues to evade its effects.
 

hawksrule

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Outside of Crosby, McDavid and arguably Ovechkin, there is no one lottery pick that will turn your franchise around. That’s why you aim to be bad for several years and pick as high as possible in all of them, and get as many picks as possible. Cause you don’t need one guy, you need an army.
You need an army, and you need superstars most likely to be found at the very top of the draft.
 

hawksfan50

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Where is our Roope Hintz?

Wiorth every penny of his $8.45 for 8 years extention..
Somebody gotta pay Horvath bitumen now.


$8.45 for Hintz= so much better than our $9.5 for S Jones who is not a good ROI=-37 lastcsesson and awful last game vs. Jets...constantly in wring spot ...bad decisions..Over-valued by a whoke bunch.8 yrxalbatross.
Hey I would have paid $9.5 for Hintz for 8 years and felt good about it vs. how angry I an Stanbo gave S Jones that mich for that long to serve as an anchorvtgatxweighscusxdown. HE HAS no conception or feel or defending.Makebhom a forward to salvage sonethibg..Imagibe 7 more seasons of losses with him as our #1D...Frightening.
 
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