**NHL 16 Thread** Part II

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M.C.G. 31

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Oct 6, 2008
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Best description i've heard via the EA forums:

"They went for realism at the price of fun and now it has neither. This game is a chore to play" Of course the shills on the EA forum disagree but it's a bang on point.

Wish i still had my PS3 so i could play legacy. It may have not been the most realistic game out there, but at least it was fun.

I uninstalled it and this'll probably be the last hockey game i buy unless they tune it to make it better.

I'm going to take this as a hint for me to stick to PS3's version this year and jump to PS4 next year...
 

Penguins23

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Dec 14, 2006
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Glad I'm not the only one that preferred NHL on 360 over the 2 products they've put on on next gen....what a joke. A chore to play is a great way to put it.
 

JJTT

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Editing players makes their contract last one year and changes their draft status to 1st overall. Great job once again EA..
 

BogsDiamond

Anybody get 2 U yet?
Mar 16, 2008
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I'd like to hear more about the Legacy version.
I saw a video which showed how vastly different the player separation was in comparison to the 360 version.
In this vid, they stickhandled and skated with Crosby vs John Scott.
In the old-gen, Scott could barely hang on to the puck, while on current-gen his skills were pretty much the same as Crosby's.

IMO, that's the biggest thing that stops this series from being really great.
Until there's a much larger gap between the all-stars and scrubs for both the user AND CPU, this series will be held back.

I cannot tell you how frustrated I'd get when I'd watch the CPU do some insane move or snipe with a 4th line goon.
It ruins the experience for me.
 

FLYLine27*

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Nov 9, 2004
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Best description i've heard via the EA forums:

"They went for realism at the price of fun and now it has neither. This game is a chore to play" Of course the shills on the EA forum disagree but it's a bang on point.

Wish i still had my PS3 so i could play legacy. It may have not been the most realistic game out there, but at least it was fun.

I uninstalled it and this'll probably be the last hockey game i buy unless they tune it to make it better.

Bingo, this 100%.

Thanks to all the people who cired about how it was too "arcadey" the last 8 years, now we are left with a hockey game this is not fun in any way to play online. Rather play Wayne Gretzkys 3D hockey. As least that game is fun to play with a bunch of friends and some beers.
 

DraberlyakMcHallkins*

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has anyone played HUT with scrubs?

guys can't receive 5 foot tape to tape passes. Skill difference is evident between bottom 6 players and top 6 players IMO
 

RussianRifle27

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Dec 3, 2007
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One timers and centering passes are all but impossible in this game which really limits creativity in the offensive zone. ABSOLUTELY EVERY SHOT GETS BLOCKED, seriously I've seen people end a game with 10 shot blocks. It takes zero effort to take the puck off someone, you just need to skate up to the puck carrier and he'll lose it somehow. I feel like I don't have good control over my skater, he just slides around everywhere. The new camera and the way it zooms is absolutely awful. Even after changing the EASHL camera to classic, it still gives you a ridiculously wide angle. No custom jerseys either.

That said, they finally fixed the aggravation of stick lifting, AI seems much better, and there are smaller things that are nice. Overall it just seems like two steps forward one step back with this franchise. Please get a new team to work on this game or get some other competition making NHL games.
 

ChaoticOrange

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Jun 29, 2008
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Still playing through BAGM. It really seems like some playoff series are hard-coded that you'll lose.

Played the first game of the West final as the Oilers vs the Kings. Completely smoked them 8-1. Simmed the next 3 - lost all 3. Played the 5th game and it felt like the difficulty had been increased from Pro to something wayyyy above superstar.

Also the computer's one-timers are ridiculously overpowered. The AI loves this floater one-timer from nearly the blueline and unless I block it it's all but a guaranteed goal.

Still the annoying '40 shots to 12, score is tied' situation every once in awhile.

Every game I play I get an A+ offence and a B- defence if I'm lucky - I was always a very good defensive player in 15 so this is a challenge.

Starting to see what people mean about the menus being unusable. Sometimes takes 5 or 6 presses of a button for it to actually do anything.
 

Arz1

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Dec 27, 2011
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has anyone played HUT with scrubs?

guys can't receive 5 foot tape to tape passes. Skill difference is evident between bottom 6 players and top 6 players IMO

Yep I played some games with a bronze team and it was impossible to score at all-star difficulty :laugh: SO many wide open nets and they just miss every time. Now I got full gold team after my 10 packs and been winning a lot in superstar too.
 

Patrice Krejci*

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Still playing through BAGM. It really seems like some playoff series are hard-coded that you'll lose.

Played the first game of the West final as the Oilers vs the Kings. Completely smoked them 8-1. Simmed the next 3 - lost all 3. Played the 5th game and it felt like the difficulty had been increased from Pro to something wayyyy above superstar.

Also the computer's one-timers are ridiculously overpowered. The AI loves this floater one-timer from nearly the blueline and unless I block it it's all but a guaranteed goal.

Still the annoying '40 shots to 12, score is tied' situation every once in awhile.

Every game I play I get an A+ offence and a B- defence if I'm lucky - I was always a very good defensive player in 15 so this is a challenge.

Starting to see what people mean about the menus being unusable. Sometimes takes 5 or 6 presses of a button for it to actually do anything.


Your point about the shots is totally true. There is no way Price, Rask, Renne, King Henrik should be getting outplayed constantly by 70-80 rated goalies. If that's the case why keep the 5+million dollar goalie on my team? Rask posted shutouts in 2 preseason games then first game of regular season he lets in 5 goals on 8 shots.....wtf EA.
 

SpookyTsuki

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Your point about the shots is totally true. There is no way Price, Rask, Renne, King Henrik should be getting outplayed constantly by 70-80 rated goalies. If that's the case why keep the 5+million dollar goalie on my team? Rask posted shutouts in 2 preseason games then first game of regular season he lets in 5 goals on 8 shots.....wtf EA.

You are using Boston though, That team is cursed come the sim.
 

SlapshotTheMovie

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Jan 18, 2013
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I did something similar with Arizona, only in reverse.

Tanked hard in year one, then made some minor additions, guys like Kris Russell and Cam Talbot, no stars or anything.

I tore through the league with OEL putting up 94 points and won the cup. The kicker is that Talbot wasn't in net for the playoffs. I didn't notice, but I had goalie rotation turned on and Michael Hutchinson was in goal.

He posted some absurd record, like 16-3 and won the Conn Smythe. I had Rieder, Andrew Shaw and Alex Burmistrov in my top six. What the hell? :laugh:


See this is the experience i always have. I build a super star team with 3 90+ players on the first line 3 87+ players on the 2nd line and a 88 goalie and 4 87+ defenders and I struggle to win 40 games and get eliminated in the 1st round.

I tank and have an 82 over all grinder as my 1st c and the highest rated player on my team and I win my division and make a run to the cup.
 

BruinsFTW

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Jun 26, 2007
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If anyone is interested in the HUT pre-order bonus that came from GameStop, let me know via private message. I'll send you my code, I never use the ultimate team stuff anyway.

note: Already Claimed

Was this on your receipt because I preordered deluxe from them and there was nothing on my receipt at all....

I was curious about that.
 

SPV

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Still playing through BAGM. It really seems like some playoff series are hard-coded that you'll lose.

Played the first game of the West final as the Oilers vs the Kings. Completely smoked them 8-1. Simmed the next 3 - lost all 3. Played the 5th game and it felt like the difficulty had been increased from Pro to something wayyyy above superstar.

Also the computer's one-timers are ridiculously overpowered. The AI loves this floater one-timer from nearly the blueline and unless I block it it's all but a guaranteed goal.

Still the annoying '40 shots to 12, score is tied' situation every once in awhile.

Every game I play I get an A+ offence and a B- defence if I'm lucky - I was always a very good defensive player in 15 so this is a challenge.

Starting to see what people mean about the menus being unusable. Sometimes takes 5 or 6 presses of a button for it to actually do anything.

It's funny, I've always felt this way with EA NHL games; like some games you just aren't supposed to win, everything bounces to the AI Players, they beat you to every loose puck, their passing is extra crisp and goaltending unbeatable. I suppose it's not actually funny at all, but kind of sad.

I've always been about defense first too; in fact every year I strive to hold teams to no shots in a period; this year I feel like the AI can dangle and pass too well, not sure if that is a good or bad yet.

and I'm so happy to hear someone say that about the menu buttons. I thought maybe something was wrong with my controller, or the wireless connection!!!
 

BruinsFTW

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Jun 26, 2007
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I had a terrible team in my first few years and every time I finished last, I never once got the 1st overall pick. I got 4th twice, and 2nd once. Then the season I moved up and finished 4th last I ended up with the first overall pick.

I really wish this game had Auto save like in Madden. In Madden if I'm in the middle of a game I can shut my TV off and leave my xbox on and then come back a few hours later, start my xbox up and start where I left off. In NHL, I lost 2 hours worth of work because the game went to dashboard. So extremely frustrating as I don't want to re-start from where I was and I don't want to start a new one.

Yeah the autosave system is really poor. Yesterday my game froze during the offseason and the most recent save I had was with 6 games left in the regular season. Playoffs gone (wasnt in them tbf), draft gone, re-sign phase gone, a few free agents gone. It's mostly my fault for not saving but I figured the game would at least auto save after big events...

I'm kind of glad I bought EA access, and disabled the auto renew.

This year the game isn't as fun in years past fun. I like challenging games. Tight one score games that aren't decided till 5 minutes left in the 3rd. This year the game is challenging, but extremely frustrating. It's at the point where I'll win a game but will be like **** it and switch to a different game.

I've noticed the CPU in BaGM has been doing the behind the net one timer for the past 4 games(all different teams but the same offensive scheme) and it feels like I'm playing against a cheeser. Almost every possession they try to do the same play and my defensemen this year are clueless.

Oh well. Access expired. Figure I'll buy the game in a month or two

My xbox lets me come back in the middle of a game and stuff????

Don't know why yours doesn't let you....I'll pause a game and it goes right back no issue. Thats odd.
 

SPV

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Editing players makes their contract last one year and changes their draft status to 1st overall. Great job once again EA..

Is this true across the board?? I haven't noticed this but haven't played that far into my GM mode. That is a massive bug!! I don't care about the draft position one, that's pretty cosmetic to me (but should still be fixed).

I was going to do some massive universal editing to speed and puck handling, and actually extend contracts of several key players to make sure they stayed with certain teams longer. I'll have to play test further to see if this happens in my version. Would be really disappointing.
 

ShadowDuck

Captain Anaheim
May 19, 2011
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So in Online VS., when your opponent quits with a minute left down 3, you're not credited with the win? I won't be playing this game mode that much anymore if that's the case.
 

SlapshotTheMovie

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Jan 18, 2013
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So in Online VS., when your opponent quits with a minute left down 3, you're not credited with the win? I won't be playing this game mode that much anymore if that's the case.

What i don't get is this happens with all EA games and they always have to patch to fix it.

In madden a while back as long as it was before the 3Q you wouldnt get credit.

EA UFC before the fight was called you didn't get credit.

With the fight night series. if you knock them down and the ref is counting to 10 they can still disconnect and you didnt get credit.

HOW IS THIS STILL A COMPANY?!?
 

DudMan28

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Jan 30, 2013
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Still playing through BAGM. It really seems like some playoff series are hard-coded that you'll lose.

Played the first game of the West final as the Oilers vs the Kings. Completely smoked them 8-1. Simmed the next 3 - lost all 3. Played the 5th game and it felt like the difficulty had been increased from Pro to something wayyyy above superstar.

Also the computer's one-timers are ridiculously overpowered. The AI loves this floater one-timer from nearly the blueline and unless I block it it's all but a guaranteed goal.

Still the annoying '40 shots to 12, score is tied' situation every once in awhile.

Every game I play I get an A+ offence and a B- defence if I'm lucky - I was always a very good defensive player in 15 so this is a challenge.

Starting to see what people mean about the menus being unusable. Sometimes takes 5 or 6 presses of a button for it to actually do anything.

This has been the most annoying thing for me so far. The computer rips 100mph one timers top shelf. If I lose my guy in the slot for a second it ends up in the back of the net. Half the time I'm standing right next to the computer and they still blast it top shelf.

Another thing that bothers me is my team can't sustain any pressure in Be a Pro. My computer has no concept of passing/cycle, yet the computer team passes it around the offensive zone for 5 minutes at a time. It just feels completely one sided. I like the challenge, but my team cant win a game lol
 

Islanderfan17

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Aug 24, 2010
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On one hand I miss the arcadey style of play, on the other hand I like the realism. As primarily an online versus player, I think the best solution would be giving the option to choose between arcade style and realism style for everything. With the realism in the game, scoring goals feels more rewarding, but everything up to that point doesn't feel as fun as the arcadey style. It has its pros and cons IMO.

This game is no doubt better than 15 though.
 

Deku

I'm off the planet
Nov 5, 2011
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Just had my 4th line center, who has no special teams ice time, score 21 goals and 5 assists in one season. What the hell..... 2nd most goals on my team :laugh:

Because of this, Ryan Reaves had a career year with 21 assists.
 
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